Illnesses after covid jabs

robroy:
After long consideration he decided to have it, but has now been told the NHS has stopped funding back ops, so he will need to go private.
He has been trying to get in for an appointment to discuss this prior to this info for months…too busy apparently, this fob off has been happening to most of the town after ringing for an appointment there with GPs.

But still he gets inundated with reminders for a Covid jab for which he can go down anytime.

That’s a rats arse situation mate, i know someone in a similar position, couldn’t get to see anyone but now he’s paid for his own MRi scan he’s on a waiting list to see a consultant about the OP he’s going to need, could be a year before he evern gets to see the suit, then anyone’s guess how long the waiting list for the Op will be (assuming his issue hasn’t degenerated past operable)…BUT, if you want to pay private…next week, maybe they smelled blood (money) in the water because he stumped up for the scan.

Does anyone seriously think voting for the alternative face of the Uniparty will change anything? because that’s what’s going to happen when the election is called, vote for more of the same and then people will still be surprised :unamused: when more of the same get elected.

and another bus went past

Juddian:

robroy:
After long consideration he decided to have it, but has now been told the NHS has stopped funding back ops, so he will need to go private.
He has been trying to get in for an appointment to discuss this prior to this info for months…too busy apparently, this fob off has been happening to most of the town after ringing for an appointment there with GPs.

But still he gets inundated with reminders for a Covid jab for which he can go down anytime.

That’s a rats arse situation mate, i know someone in a similar position, couldn’t get to see anyone but now he’s paid for his own MRi scan he’s on a waiting list to see a consultant about the OP he’s going to need, could be a year before he evern gets to see the suit, then anyone’s guess how long the waiting list for the Op will be (assuming his issue hasn’t degenerated past operable)…BUT, if you want to pay private…next week, maybe they smelled blood (money) in the water because he stumped up for the scan.

Does anyone seriously think voting for the alternative face of the Uniparty will change anything? because that’s what’s going to happen when the election is called, vote for more of the same and then people will still be surprised :unamused: when more of the same get elected.

and another bus went past

Vaccines can be administered by a nurse, and someone to use a computer. More complicated stuff needs Doctors, and often more complicated equipment than a needle. Vaccine clinics are making little difference to waiting times for surgery or consultations.

The current method of looking at NHS waiting times started in 2007.
The then (Labour) Gov, halved the number in 2 years. The previous measuring methods had also also reduced.

Change of Gov half way through 2010, and from 2012 a steady rise in waiting times. By early 2020, (at the start of Covid) it was already back to the 2007 level.

nuffieldtrust.org.uk/resour … -the-years

All parties are not the same.

Juddian:
Launch a Public Inquiry into the approval process for covid-19 vaccines - Petitions

Launch a Public Inquiry into the approval process for covid-19 vaccines

Yep, I`ve signed.

Franglais:

Juddian:

robroy:
After long consideration he decided to have it, but has now been told the NHS has stopped funding back ops, so he will need to go private.
He has been trying to get in for an appointment to discuss this prior to this info for months…too busy apparently, this fob off has been happening to most of the town after ringing for an appointment there with GPs.

But still he gets inundated with reminders for a Covid jab for which he can go down anytime.

That’s a rats arse situation mate, i know someone in a similar position, couldn’t get to see anyone but now he’s paid for his own MRi scan he’s on a waiting list to see a consultant about the OP he’s going to need, could be a year before he evern gets to see the suit, then anyone’s guess how long the waiting list for the Op will be (assuming his issue hasn’t degenerated past operable)…BUT, if you want to pay private…next week, maybe they smelled blood (money) in the water because he stumped up for the scan.

Does anyone seriously think voting for the alternative face of the Uniparty will change anything? because that’s what’s going to happen when the election is called, vote for more of the same and then people will still be surprised :unamused: when more of the same get elected.

and another bus went past

Vaccines can be administered by a nurse, and someone to use a computer. More complicated stuff needs Doctors, and often more complicated equipment than a needle. Vaccine clinics are making little difference to waiting times for surgery or consultations.

The current method of looking at NHS waiting times started in 2007.
The then (Labour) Gov, halved the number in 2 years. The previous measuring methods had also also reduced.

Change of Gov half way through 2010, and from 2012 a steady rise in waiting times. By early 2020, (at the start of Covid) it was already back to the 2007 level.

nuffieldtrust.org.uk/resour … -the-years

All parties are not the same.

A party political broadcast on behalf of The Labour Party ladies and gentlemen. :laughing:

robroy:
A party political broadcast on behalf of The Labour Party ladies and gentlemen. :laughing:

Not really.

If you think that saving money for richer tax payers, and giving less per capita to the NHS is a good thing? If increased waiting times are what you want? If you want to have to pay for private healthcare?
Then support the Tory party that gives you that.

If you think that getting waiting times down , is good, then it may be better to support Labour.
It is up to us all to decide what we want after all.

Harry Monk:

m.a.n rules:

Harry Monk:
I didn’t have the Dr Mengele Death Jab and anyone who did deserves all they get.

ffs harry that is a pathetic comment, i expected better from you… :unamused: :open_mouth:

Why? It was obvious from the word “Go” that the whole thing was a gigantic hoax.

Shush - You might have to admit that I was right on the “Conspiracy” all along… :wink:

Seriously though folks, we’re now entering a time like no other, certainlly during our lifetimes at least.

Might be time to ask what Christmas 1939 and 1940 was like, if you’ve got any relatives/friends left that remembered it, even as young kids…

Chances are, if you get ill right now - you might end up perishing from the slightest ailment… That thing I used to call “NHS Neglect” - has come home to roost now…

Where’s the OUTRAGE though? - That’s what puzzles me…

Sunak’s £67 a month and £150 one-off for band A-D houses - is all gone in December’s dual fuel bill alone.

What when you try to go to sleep in your own home, sans central heating on 'cos you can’t afford a bill of £500+ a month by the end of January?

My Dad nearly died from Rheumatic Fever during the b@stard winter of 1947/48 - sleeping in a cold, damp room with no heating…
We’re already reading news reports of kids dying cos of mould/rising damp in their rooms, with the suggestion being to have a de-humidifier on (cheaper than the heating) to make sure that rising damp - doesn’t get rid of more of us whilst we sleep…

The government, or rather the establishment - are the ones doing this to us.

We’ve got another hike in interest rates expected within 48 hours of me writing this, adding an extra £50 a month on top of their average £150k mortgages as well to come…

Then there’s the massive credit card bills for millions at the end of both this month and january…

The cost of petrol - has come down sharply of late, I suspect because Sunak has been told by the Graham Brady of the 1922 committee that “If you don’t get inflation under control by the end of the year - you’re OUT”

Welll folks, the official inflation figure came in this morning - down from 0.4% to 0.1% now…
Whilst that sounds good, I don’t think it is enough to have this week’s anticipated Bank of England rate hike - cancelled…

If rising energy costs (Due to us waging an unecessary proxy war vs Putin’s Russia) don’t bring most people down -
…Maybe the rising cost of Borrowing will.
“Borrowing” hasn’t gone up because Kwasimodo Kwarteng tried to have a giveraway budget, but rather because China are punishing Britain and the rest of the Western nations standing against their trade partner Russia.

Let that sink in:
China - only need “buy less bonds” each month from every western nation they’ve been previously flooding the market with cheap credit…
Hey Presto - the BOND auction rate (the interest each country pays on it’s national debt to mostly China) - goes up and up…
The Banks try to pretend they are the ones pushing up rates, but in fact - there are a number of banks already worried that if mortgage rates go up much more, people will be fire-selling their properties at a huge loss - a loss which becomes the BANK’S loss if the house is eventually sold off for less than the outstanding mortgage…

Meanwhile, it is very hard indeed to get to see a GP these days.
I’ve not been able to see mine since before the Lockdown.
It’s all “Phone Consultations” now, which of course won’t capture anyone seriously ill with an infectious condition where simply “no face to face examination” - simply will not do.

There’s reports of Diptheria in Thanet, Strep in West London area…

How much longer until we get to add things like Typhus and Polio?
The one I’m worried about is Heavy Metal poisoning from poorly maintained reservoirs, that are not exactly under maximum security now neither…
It’s all very nice having Azov types holding another “Faux Flag Throwdown” party, and blaming it on Putin - but if you’re the one who’s gone mad drinking water laced with Cadmium, Mercury, Polonium, etc. - that’s not much of a consolation knowing who killed you or your loved ones - is it?

I would have to summerize the month ahead with

“Avoid the slings and arrows of outragous foreign policy conspiracy”.

I doubt if there’s many people, even among the green lefties - who actually support killing us all off en-masse ongoingly - once they realize that we are ALL the target of this “Need” by the world’s deep state to get rid of us all in the name of an easier to control, more compliant, and slimmed-down general public everywhere…

In my mind, we should all be like Brazil right now, taking to the streets to stop this overseas interference in our everyday lives.
(Deep state rigged the election there, using same model as America 2020 and 2022 - no longer a theory, now proven.)

At least in Brazil, it is warm, monsoony summer there, rather than balls-off early winter, where I’ve been seeing non-council workers this week - driving gritters because the council cannot get enough drivers in to do the job, it seems…

The second lockdown cometh. If you survive - you can protest from next spring by which point

“Yesterday’s ‘Conspiracy Theory’…
…Is Today’s News…
…is Tomorrow’s Facts…
…Is next month’s Court Case
…Is next year’s Overturned Regime.”

Franglais:

robroy:
A party political broadcast on behalf of The Labour Party ladies and gentlemen. :laughing:

Not really.

If you think that saving money for richer tax payers, and giving less per capita to the NHS is a good thing? If increased waiting times are what you want? If you want to have to pay for private healthcare?
Then support the Tory party that gives you that.

If you think that getting waiting times down , is good, then it may be better to support Labour.
It is up to us all to decide what we want after all.

If Keir Starmer’s Labour Party think they are going to have people sleepwalking into voting Labour then he really needs to stand up, and say something that sets Labour apart from the Tories!

People like me who actually voted Tory in 2019 - won’t be voting Labour because they are not the Tories.

I’ll be voting for whoever’s 4th or 5th on our ballot papers (5th, if there’s a green party candidate standing occupying the 4th slot…)

What sorts of things might get me interested in voting Labour?

Keir Starmer talking like the moral majority think like Blair did with his “Mondeo Man” approach - might be a good start?

Instead, what do we get from a forthcoming Labour government otherwise?

“More of the same”…

NO pulling out of Paris accord.
NO peace with Russia.
NO cutting Ukraine loose.
NO serious help with the cost of living/downturn/natural disasters about to claim even more of us.

Keir Starmer isn’t promising all things to hard-nut Labour supporting NHS workers and other Union members neither - is he?

They won’t be getting their 19% pay rise under his tenure either, and even if he tried to do just that - wouldn’t HIS chancellor get the same treatment Liz Truss’ government got■■?

I expected Sunak to rig the election for PM, with Truss unexpectedly losing the Grass Roots ballot…
That he got beaten at that point, and that Truss has already gone - makes me suspect that Truss was lined up merely to be knocked down, so Sunak can put forward some semblence of “Control” again…
He is the Deep State Pick After all, what with his near Billion quid in the bank and all, most of it in his ever-worried looking wife’s name…

“■■■■■■■■■■■ over a billion people, without causing the biggest world public uprising ever seen in history”.

Today’s Conspiracy - Tomorrow’s Fact?
Since no one will be protesting “Once it’s too late”, we can only look around us for what is happening…
Lost many people to things not natural in your mind?

You’re not going to change anything by voting Labour, nor maybe even voting at all - looking at how easily the electronic voting system has now been totally owned by the deep state, all around the world by this point…

The world’s first “Global Revolution” is more of what is needed, imho.

We should all be voting against EVERY party in our “Parliament”.
They don’t represent the public of ANY political leaning, and haven’t for some time. :frowning:

Our future looks pretty bleak - if the People don’t take back control, and soon. Forget Brexit - There isn’t going to be a political solution TO this, since Brexit continues to be resisted vs the biggest UK mandate in history…

Then there’s also the possibility that we’ve already HAD the last actual “Democratic” election we’ll ever have, like seems to be the case in America as of 2020 and France 2022 so far at least…

Brazil - are currently closest to overturning one of this “rigged” affairs, - because the current incumbent along with the military AND the public - are on the same side there.

Maybe someone would like to step forward from the UK military who’s popular with both Left and Right over here and do something similar?

Franglais:

robroy:
A party political broadcast on behalf of The Labour Party ladies and gentlemen. :laughing:

Not really.

If you think that saving money for richer tax payers, and giving less per capita to the NHS is a good thing? If increased waiting times are what you want? If you want to have to pay for private healthcare?
Then support the Tory party that gives you that.

If you think that getting waiting times down , is good, then it may be better to support Labour.
It is up to us all to decide what we want after all.

I’ve said before on here, if Labour were actually what they are meant to be …‘The representative party of the working class’’ I,.and many like me would be voting for them.

They may well improve the structure of the NHS, it’s just all the rest of the leftie pc crap,.and the abundance of champagne socialists to contend with that put me off.
Mind you, the Tories are no better. :unamused:

As usual, keeping an open mind and observing what they come up with to attract and look after the interests of me and people like me…you will no doubt notice I put ‘me’ at the forefront of the list, (true to form)

There ya go,.saved you a post :wink: :smiley:

robroy:
the abundance of champagne socialists

Go on then… :smiley:

What`s a “champagne socialist” ?

Someone who has come up from poverty, and can now afford fizzy wine?
(so we can, jealously, sneer at their success)

Someone who started rich, but doesn`t feel like an entitled greedy sod, and wants to try to help those worse off?
(so gets accused of “virtue signalling”)

Someone who…?

Go on…

robroy:
They may well improve the structure of the NHS,

So? Let `em drink fizzy wine if they actually do that! :smiley:

Hmmmm scratchy chin moment. :bulb:

Now I think it’s YOU trying to wind ME up. :bulb: :open_mouth:
Look it up in the dictionary you mentioned.

Off to bed,.so I’ll file that one in my ‘‘Really CBA anymore’’ section. :wink:
Good night.

Carryfast:

the maoster:
As I said before, time will tell :wink:

Look on the bright side I’m already guaranteed to be ahead in life expectancy by at least the year that they’ve added to my pension qualifying age.
That’s not even counting the two AZ shots which were so good that they didn’t want to bother with a third one and no need to count the other previous two.

Hang on a second………you are still below pension age!!! Good grief. You are exactly type I was talking about when I said ageing was a state of mind. How old are you because you prattle on like a 90 year old?! :smiley:

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Not Covid, but there is a development from Moderna and Merck with mRNA vaccines for treatment of cancer.
bbc.com/news/health-63959843

Franglais:
Not Covid, but there is a development from Moderna and Merck with mRNA vaccines for treatment of cancer.
bbc.com/news/health-63959843

Fantastic, no room left in either arm for many cos full of the clots shots, so bendover and brace yersen :open_mouth:

Franglais:
Not Covid, but there is a development from Moderna and Merck with mRNA vaccines for treatment of cancer.
bbc.com/news/health-63959843

So now you’re saying there’s a viral infectious link with cancer.Which by implication means it can be transmitted.Although I have always had my suspicions in that regard it’s insignificant compared to the explosion in cancer rates since we split the atom.
While if your theory is correct good luck with what by implication means infecting yourself with a known cancer causing pathogen in the hope that it will kick off a cancer immune response.
Bearing in mind you have absolutely no evidence that the immune system is even capable of such a response in the case of cancer.

Juddian:

Franglais:
Not Covid, but there is a development from Moderna and Merck with mRNA vaccines for treatment of cancer.
bbc.com/news/health-63959843

Fantastic, no room left in either arm for many cos full of the clots shots, so bendover and brace yersen :open_mouth:

Really ?
Potentially a new treatment for those with cancer, and you`re having a pop at it?

Cancer isnt contagious, so there wont be any need to protest about the right of the individual to be a virus spreading public health hazard if they so choose. There won`t be any “coercion” to get a jab to look after those less healthy than oneself.

Franglais:

Juddian:

Franglais:
Not Covid, but there is a development from Moderna and Merck with mRNA vaccines for treatment of cancer.
bbc.com/news/health-63959843

Fantastic, no room left in either arm for many cos full of the clots shots, so bendover and brace yersen :open_mouth:

Really ?
Potentially a new treatment for those with cancer, and you`re having a pop at it?

Cancer isnt contagious, so there wont be any need to protest about the right of the individual to be a virus spreading public health hazard if they so choose. There won`t be any “coercion” to get a jab to look after those less healthy than oneself.

How does a supposed ‘vaccine’ stop, cancer.
Let alone reverse, cancer after the fact or in fact reverse any type of illness.It’s supposedly only a preventative treatment which trains the immune system to recognise and attack a pathogen.Specifically viral pathogens before they establish themselves.Not bacterial infections and let alone cancer which is caused by our own cell reproduction system (DNA) going nuts.
Or being damaged by radiation for example.
We’re told that COVID ‘vaccine’ based on MRNA technology isnt a gene therapy in that regard it’s a ‘vaccine’ right.

Juddian:

Franglais:
Not Covid, but there is a development from Moderna and Merck with mRNA vaccines for treatment of cancer.
bbc.com/news/health-63959843

Fantastic, no room left in either arm for many cos full of the clots shots, so bendover and brace yersen :open_mouth:

Juddian what about the scenario of the rich elites grasping at any straw, which might stop them being taken out by Cancer, in this case by medical experiments carried out on the peasants.

Franglais:

Juddian:

Franglais:
Not Covid, but there is a development from Moderna and Merck with mRNA vaccines for treatment of cancer.
bbc.com/news/health-63959843

Fantastic, no room left in either arm for many cos full of the clots shots, so bendover and brace yersen :open_mouth:

Really ?
Potentially a new treatment for those with cancer, and you`re having a pop at it?

Cancer isnt contagious, so there wont be any need to protest about the right of the individual to be a virus spreading public health hazard if they so choose. There won`t be any “coercion” to get a jab to look after those less healthy than oneself.

I suspect this “Cancer Breakthrough” and of late “Cusp of Nuclear Fusion Obtainable” is merely “Hope ■■■■” to stop us worrying about holding our breaths much longer “Because free, Oxygen tanks are coming to you, just hold your breath underwater for another half hour!”

“Help not due until April” - won’t help anyone much who died in March - will it?

“Lack of access to NHS” combined with “Poverty Enforcement” - will kill more people in the year 2023 than have died since WWII, I suspect…

(“Poverty Enforcement” is when you die of exposure/starvation/concentration camp type stuff because you are unable to get out of it’s way, even though you know that “staying put” will result in your direct harm…)

Falling asleep with temperatures below 15c is dangerous to heath, and of course can still kill if the air temperature drops below 4c though heat loss via the face - “wrapping up in bed” - won’t save people.

Imagine also the disease outbreaks from mouldering bodies once they start to come out of natural refrigeration in the spring?

“Granny’s bones found in bungalow after she hasn’t been seen since Christmas” - multiply that by around a million or so…

“I’m alright Jack” people who thought they’d survived - then start succumbing to Typhus, Plague etc. diseases that are associated with corpse juices soaking down into the water table…

Again, I would ask the question “What did say, Londoners do during the Blitz when hundreds of moldering bodies were not recoverable from bombed-out housing estates for days and weeks after?”

And remember we’re all being force-fed the lie that this is all Putin’s fault, rather than our own establishment…
It isn’t a “Foreign Policy Disaster” for our incumbent politicans - they are ALL in on it, don’t forget.

If that were not true, then we’d have Tories right now siding with Labour in forcing a general election that they’d know Labour would currently romp, but won’t by the time the election actually gets set up to be only just won by a hung parliament with rainbow coalition - the approved deep-state future for us at this stage…

“Rainbow Coalition” is also the reason why the kitchen sink gets thrown at anything remotely “Anti Establishment” like UKIP, CND, NF, BF, BNP, or even Reform Party - to make sure they never have even the nexus of a single seat for anyone in parliament to proverbally “cross the floor” to…

Well folks, if that continues to be the case - our future irremoveable establishment will find it FAR easier to rule over a de-populated Britain - won’t they?

There will even be some mugs left who believe that “Ohhh Covid killed all those people - and Tory neglect” rather than "The Establishment killed all those people - and NHS neglect"…

Franglais:

stu675:

Franglais:

the maoster:
As an aside it doesn’t take much digging to discover a massive rise in unexplained deaths amongst people who previously weren’t expected to be in an at risk demographic.

Here, borrow this shovel…
Where is this massive rise in unexplained deaths, please?

There are thousands more UK deaths than usual and we don’t know why | New Scientist

22,500 excess deaths during 4 months of this summer.

Is anyone suggesting…vaccines…?
Ummmm…No…

National Health Service (NHS) problems, an ageing population, heatwaves and a resurgence of covid-19 all also being mooted as possible causes for the sudden hike in deaths.

Here’s the coroner not suggesting, but stating that it’s the vaccine causing death.

What was a 27 year old rushing to take this vaccine for? I blame the government and their nudge unit perpetuating fear. But if not responsibility, then at least the results rests with the individual, so hell mend him.

stu675:

Franglais:

stu675:
There are thousands more UK deaths than usual and we don’t know why | New Scientist

22,500 excess deaths during 4 months of this summer.

Is anyone suggesting…vaccines…?
Ummmm…No…

National Health Service (NHS) problems, an ageing population, heatwaves and a resurgence of covid-19 all also being mooted as possible causes for the sudden hike in deaths.

Covid: Jack Last died as result of AstraZeneca vaccine – coroner - BBC News

Here’s the coroner not suggesting, but stating that it’s the vaccine causing death.

What was a 27 year old rushing to take this vaccine for? I blame the government and their nudge unit perpetuating fear. But if not responsibility, then at least the results rests with the individual, so hell mend him.

“Hell mend him”?
I think it`s a terrible loss for his family.

Yes,the coroner says that one is death due to the vaccine, although better care at the time, might have prevented that outcome of the side effects.
No-one is saying there have been no deaths due to vaccine, and that there will be none in the future.

That particular death was in March 2021, so has absolutely sweet F.A. to do with the 22,500 deaths in the summer of 2022.