TonkaBoy:
According to the Office for National Statistics (ONS) in the UK, as of December 2021, there were 14,261 deaths involving COVID-19 in the 45-64 age group. It is important to note that this figure includes deaths where COVID-19 was a x contributing × factor but may not have been the underlying cause of death.
But getting to those stats unable to do, so it means nothing as inaccurate.
Had many people saying they had friends pass, labeled as covid when it wasnt, but other factors…
Friends of the dead all know more about their demise than Doctors do?
You`re a fantasist.
TonkaBoy:
According to the Office for National Statistics (ONS) in the UK, as of December 2021, there were 14,261 deaths involving COVID-19 in the 45-64 age group. It is important to note that this figure includes deaths where COVID-19 was a x contributing × factor but may not have been the underlying cause of death.
But getting to those stats unable to do, so it means nothing as inaccurate.
Had many people saying they had friends pass, labeled as covid when it wasnt, but other factors…
Friends of the dead all know more about their demise than Doctors do?
You`re a fantasist.
was you ever in the position yourself, or just your usual fantasist self appointed position ? Spewing rubbish facts … as so far nearly everything you’ve posted, is wrong… even 1% wrong is 100% inaccurate, so why do you continue to try looking smart when in fact you are just the same as the rest of us… inferiority complex at home and work maybe… seriously think about that therapy dog…
robroy:
despite your self perceived ‘specialist knowledge’.
Repeating that sad old lie again?
robroy:
ie…I DON’T KNOW…and in reality that includes YOU !!,
But you do claim to know!
robroy:
as part of the ott over reactive hysteria I mentioned,
You clearly state there was an over-reaction.
No justification, just you giving your opinion.
robroy:
So I am willing to leave it there if you are?
Both mutually accepting each others pov,.rather than have an entire day arguing about it,.
I have tried to explain to you in the past how forums work. Ill try again: So long as you keep posting stuff Ill feel free* to reply, to keep showing you, with links, and graphs, and things called facts, where I think it is wrong.
Just as you are free* to challenge my views here too.
*We are both here thanks to TNUK and the Mods. Thank you all.
TonkaBoy:
According to the Office for National Statistics (ONS) in the UK, as of December 2021, there were 14,261 deaths involving COVID-19 in the 45-64 age group. It is important to note that this figure includes deaths where COVID-19 was a x contributing × factor but may not have been the underlying cause of death.
But getting to those stats unable to do, so it means nothing as inaccurate.
Had many people saying they had friends pass, labeled as covid when it wasnt, but other factors…
Friends of the dead all know more about their demise than Doctors do?
You`re a fantasist.
was you ever in the position yourself, or just your usual fantasist self appointed position ? Spewing rubbish facts … as so far nearly everything you’ve posted, is wrong… even 1% wrong is 100% inaccurate, so why do you continue to try looking smart when in fact you are just the same as the rest of us… inferiority complex at home and work maybe… seriously think about that therapy dog…
Let`s park that there.
Anyone who chooses to read these posts can form their own judgement about what is banter, and what is a personal attack from a troll who has no cogent on topic argument to make.
robroy:
despite your self perceived ‘specialist knowledge’.
Repeating that sad old lie again?
robroy:
ie…I DON’T KNOW…and in reality that includes YOU !!,
But you do claim to know!
robroy:
as part of the ott over reactive hysteria I mentioned,
You clearly state there was an over-reaction.
No justification, just you giving your opinion.
robroy:
So I am willing to leave it there if you are?
Both mutually accepting each others pov,.rather than have an entire day arguing about it,.
I have tried to explain to you in the past how forums work. Ill try again: So long as you keep posting stuff Ill feel free* to reply, to keep showing you, with links, and graphs, and things called facts, where I think it is wrong.
Just as you are free* to challenge my views here too.
*We are both here thanks to TNUK and the Mods. Thank you all.
Ffs mate you are unreal.
Please Stop patronising me ! (and everybody else) I do take offence to my intelligence being questioned thanks.
If you resent coming across as a pompous prick stop providing the ammunition of opportunity.
Yes my OWN opinion…so I’ll now talk down to you,.you have proven you don’t like your own medicine, but there ya go…
Of course it is just MY opinion.
SO…Let ME point out to YOU how forums work.
A forum…
A discussion and/or debate on various subjects.
In turn usually based on one’s OWN OPINION used to challenge those of a different or opposite one.
With me so far?
It just happens that your usual ''facts, links,.and graphs can be (and in MY opinion ) usually are, open to and subject to, corruptive manipulation,.especially where authoritative organisations are involved, with a desire to prove or verify their points.
TonkaBoy:
According to the Office for National Statistics (ONS) in the UK, as of December 2021, there were 14,261 deaths involving COVID-19 in the 45-64 age group. It is important to note that this figure includes deaths where COVID-19 was a x contributing × factor but may not have been the underlying cause of death.
But getting to those stats unable to do, so it means nothing as inaccurate.
Had many people saying they had friends pass, labeled as covid when it wasnt, but other factors…
Friends of the dead all know more about their demise than Doctors do?
You`re a fantasist.
was you ever in the position yourself, or just your usual fantasist self appointed position ? Spewing rubbish facts … as so far nearly everything you’ve posted, is wrong… even 1% wrong is 100% inaccurate, so why do you continue to try looking smart when in fact you are just the same as the rest of us… inferiority complex at home and work maybe… seriously think about that therapy dog…
Let`s park that there.
Anyone who chooses to read these posts can form their own judgement about what is banter, and what is a personal attack from a troll who has no cogent on topic argument to make.
Another Franglais tactic when backed into a corner…play the troll card,.if that has no impact go for the Ace of Spades…The bullying card.
I’ve been on the end of it a few times…ooh Matron.
robroy:
It just happens that your usual ''facts, links,.and graphs can be (and in MY opinion ) usually are, open to and subject to, corruptive manipulation,.especially where authoritative organisations are involved, with a desire to prove or verify their points.
Absolutely agree that we must be aware of and on the look out for manipulation of facts and figures.
By providing links to the source of those figures we can see whether or not they should be given a lot of trust or not.
By showing evidence we can justify our opinions.
TonkaBoy:
as so far nearly everything you’ve posted, is wrong… even 1% wrong is 100% inaccurate, so why do you continue to try looking smart when in fact you are just the same as the rest of us
Yes, Im pretty much the same as everyone else here, Unlike the accusations made by RR I dont claim any expertise. I do make reference to those who are experts, and I try to provide links to them.
You were happy enough to quote official figures when you thought they supported your point of view, but then rubbish them when it is shown they don`t.
NO figures are 100% accurate. In the real world we have to deal with what is available.
robroy:
It just happens that your usual ''facts, links,.and graphs can be (and in MY opinion ) usually are, open to and subject to, corruptive manipulation,.especially where authoritative organisations are involved, with a desire to prove or verify their points.
Absolutely agree that we must be aware of and on the look out for manipulation of facts and figures.
By providing links to the source of those figures we can see whether or not they should be given a lot of trust or not.
By showing evidence we can justify our opinions.
TonkaBoy:
as so far nearly everything you’ve posted, is wrong… even 1% wrong is 100% inaccurate, so why do you continue to try looking smart when in fact you are just the same as the rest of us
Yes, Im pretty much the same as everyone else here, Unlike the accusations made by RR I dont claim any expertise. I do make reference to those who are experts, and I try to provide links to them.
You were happy enough to quote official figures when you thought they supported your point of view, but then rubbish them when it is shown they don`t.
NO figures are 100% accurate. In the real world we have to deal with what is available.
The difference is that the ‘figures’ supporting ‘your’ pro gene therapy point of view aren’t artificially reduced by the deliberate cover up which goes with this stinking agenda.
An agenda which is about as credible as the idea that an aircraft wing or tail will cut through structural steel sufficient to hold up a skyscraper etc like a knife through butter if we ram it into it fast/hard enough.
robroy:
It just happens that your usual ''facts, links,.and graphs can be (and in MY opinion ) usually are, open to and subject to, corruptive manipulation,.especially where authoritative organisations are involved, with a desire to prove or verify their points.
Absolutely agree that we must be aware of and on the look out for manipulation of facts and figures.
By providing links to the source of those figures we can see whether or not they should be given a lot of trust or not.
By showing evidence we can justify our opinions.
TonkaBoy:
as so far nearly everything you’ve posted, is wrong… even 1% wrong is 100% inaccurate, so why do you continue to try looking smart when in fact you are just the same as the rest of us
Yes, Im pretty much the same as everyone else here, Unlike the accusations made by RR I dont claim any expertise. I do make reference to those who are experts, and I try to provide links to them.
You were happy enough to quote official figures when you thought they supported your point of view, but then rubbish them when it is shown they don`t.
NO figures are 100% accurate. In the real world we have to deal with what is available.
The difference is that the ‘figures’ supporting ‘your’ pro gene therapy point of view aren’t artificially reduced by the deliberate cover up which goes with this stinking agenda.
An agenda which is about as credible as the idea that an aircraft wing or tail will cut through structural steel sufficient to hold up a skyscraper etc like a knife through butter if we ram it into it fast/hard enough.
The ‘stinking agenda.’ that made you decide against having the jab then eh?..that one?
Oh hang on a minute.
Carryfast:
An agenda which is about as credible as the idea that an aircraft wing or tail will cut through structural steel sufficient to hold up a skyscraper etc like a knife through butter if we ram it into it fast/hard enough.
Twin Towers?
Yep, no one could possibly believe that two aircraft each weighing about 140 tonnes and carrying 40 tonnes of fuel, travelling around 160mph could possibly damage them that badly.
The spars are obviously very light and weak, keeping that weight in the air, and transmitting the thrust of two jet engines, requires so constructional strength at all.
After all aluminium is very soft, an aircraft grade aluminium baseball bat swung at your head at maybe 40mph would do nothing at all.
No damage done, and no sense imparted.
Why not arrange a demonstration?
I daresay many would volunteer…To swing the bat I mean.
That’s my point CF ^^^ i don’t GAF about you thoughts on whether or not it was a conspiracy by Barack Obama, the Chinese, Beau Geste or even Jo Guest (google her).
I’ve never once criticised that. My criticism was and still is reserved for the fact that you didn’t change your mind on the vaccine (I would have completely understood that), it was the fact that you consistently decried it as fake or whatever and then meekly rolled over and submitted to it. I’d have had utmost respect if you’d have stuck to your guns rightly or wrongly.
robroy:
It just happens that your usual ''facts, links,.and graphs can be (and in MY opinion ) usually are, open to and subject to, corruptive manipulation,.especially where authoritative organisations are involved, with a desire to prove or verify their points.
Absolutely agree that we must be aware of and on the look out for manipulation of facts and figures.
By providing links to the source of those figures we can see whether or not they should be given a lot of trust or not.
By showing evidence we can justify our opinions.
TonkaBoy:
as so far nearly everything you’ve posted, is wrong… even 1% wrong is 100% inaccurate, so why do you continue to try looking smart when in fact you are just the same as the rest of us
Yes, Im pretty much the same as everyone else here, Unlike the accusations made by RR I dont claim any expertise. I do make reference to those who are experts, and I try to provide links to them.
You were happy enough to quote official figures when you thought they supported your point of view, but then rubbish them when it is shown they don`t.
NO figures are 100% accurate. In the real world we have to deal with what is available.
I posted them to challege… not to convince
we disagree on Covid and EU situations, is why I challenge your posts…
not a troll hahaha thanks, could say stop with the personal attacks please, Im ugly from birth, and okay the fat part is self inflicted…however have Broad shoulders, so your welcome to say what you like, and I eat too much… is what it is…
And If your a drvier you would realise I can’t just ‘park it there’ as the topic to me is like …double yellows… so can unload for 40 minutes … and will do so, without fear of any self governing types thinking their an authority… happens way too often today, truck forum, so others know what I mean, bad enough on the road without it being online too…
Now if it was red lines… different matter… but its not…
the devils in the detail in the background, and remember 9yrs ago…
just sharing not agreeing, and dont have a faith conected to it, as dont entertain religon…
a post to explain it here >> https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-real-purpose-behind-the-short-movie-I-Pet-Goat
one answer below.
This short video depicts the end times, which one can easily find in Jewish scriptures ( mentioning their foretold Massiah), which according to Christian scriptures, is an Anti-Christ/Illuminati and Islamic Scriptures, is Dajjal/Deceiver/One eyed Liar. That Massiah will create physical but mostly mental havoc amongst mankind. To some deluded people he will seem like God, to some he will be like a prophet. He will have wind at his command, water under his control and enormous food supply,technology & gold with him. At his time a person who speaks truth will seem to be a liar and vice-versa, taking interest money will be common, women will be dressed yet naked, speaking lies will be normal, adultery will be normal, a woman will give birth to her master, mankind will compete madly in terms of technology and infrastructure, famine-droughts will be common, paper currency will diminish suddenly, men will try to be like women and women like men, same gender marriages will be normal, wars will be common in the name of protection, betrayal will reach its heights,a friend will be more beloved than a father, people will not even know whereabouts of neighbours and can know whats going on at a far away place without moving his limbs, humanity will die and insanity will start. So, at this stage man will blindly follow him as his saviour, …But people still on the path of truth will have one of the greatest TEST.
Carryfast:
An agenda which is about as credible as the idea that an aircraft wing or tail will cut through structural steel sufficient to hold up a skyscraper etc like a knife through butter if we ram it into it fast/hard enough.
Twin Towers?
Yep, no one could possibly believe that two aircraft each weighing about 140 tonnes and carrying 40 tonnes of fuel, travelling around 160mph could possibly damage them that badly.
The spars are obviously very light and weak, keeping that weight in the air, and transmitting the thrust of two jet engines, requires so constructional strength at all.
After all aluminium is very soft, an aircraft grade aluminium baseball bat swung at your head at maybe 40mph would do nothing at all.
No damage done, and no sense imparted.
Why not arrange a demonstration?
I daresay many would volunteer…To swing the bat I mean.
The spars are about as strong as that, v solid steel as in strong enough to hold up a skyscraper.I’ll raise you your light aluminium baseball bat made of a section of aircraft wing or tail and replace my head with a fleet of excavators feel free to swing your bat at the 200 mph max design speed of your bat at less than 1,000 feet.
the devils in the detail in the background, and remember 9yrs ago…
just sharing not agreeing, and dont have a faith conected to it, as dont entertain religon…
a post to explain it here >> https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-real-purpose-behind-the-short-movie-I-Pet-Goat
one answer below.
This short video depicts the end times, which one can easily find in Jewish scriptures ( mentioning their foretold Massiah), which according to Christian scriptures, is an Anti-Christ/Illuminati and Islamic Scriptures, is Dajjal/Deceiver/One eyed Liar. That Massiah will create physical but mostly mental havoc amongst mankind. To some deluded people he will seem like God, to some he will be like a prophet. He will have wind at his command, water under his control and enormous food supply,technology & gold with him. At his time a person who speaks truth will seem to be a liar and vice-versa, taking interest money will be common, women will be dressed yet naked, speaking lies will be normal, adultery will be normal, a woman will give birth to her master, mankind will compete madly in terms of technology and infrastructure, famine-droughts will be common, paper currency will diminish suddenly, men will try to be like women and women like men, same gender marriages will be normal, wars will be common in the name of protection, betrayal will reach its heights,a friend will be more beloved than a father, people will not even know whereabouts of neighbours and can know whats going on at a far away place without moving his limbs, humanity will die and insanity will start. So, at this stage man will blindly follow him as his saviour, …But people still on the path of truth will have one of the greatest TEST.
you can go back to covid jabs and illness now…lol
The truth is the COVID gene therapy ( depopulation ? ) scam is intrinsically linked to the same agenda as that which says JFK was shot by a lone gunman armed with an antique bolt action rifle and large civil aircraft not bunker busting missiles brought down WTC and punched a small hole through the walls of the Pentagon.
The common elephant in the room being Communism and China.Bearing in mind that Cuba was settled amicably unlike Vietnam and now China wants/needs what’s ours to sustain its population, regime and ambitions.America obviously blinked first.
the maoster:
That’s my point CF ^^^ i don’t GAF about you thoughts on whether or not it was a conspiracy by Barack Obama, the Chinese, Beau Geste or even Jo Guest (google her).
I’ve never once criticised that. My criticism was and still is reserved for the fact that you didn’t change your mind on the vaccine (I would have completely understood that), it was the fact that you consistently decried it as fake or whatever and then meekly rolled over and submitted to it. I’d have had utmost respect if you’d have stuck to your guns rightly or wrongly.
I didn’t ever decry it as fake I said from the start it’s either a covert military grade anti dote to a covert bioengineering ( weapon ) release.Or it’s something much more sinister in which case it’s all moot because that agenda isn’t just going away and taking no for an answer and life ain’t going to be a bed of roses under that regime either way.
Subsequent events have changed my personal view from the former to the latter and confirmed my suspicions regarding JFKs fate and 9/11 and the links between Fort Detrick and Wuhan all based on the obvious fact that the rich elites at the top of the WEF don’t want to lose what they’ve got in a fight with China.With the win win that they can use their enslaved peasants and proles as lab rats to see if mRNA technology can also save them from ever checking out early to cancer.
As opposed to you preaching your laughable pretence of rebellion while at the same time spouting the establishment line of at worse ■■■■ up not conspiracy while shouting conspiracy theorists at those like me or Juddian.
The trouble with “Time will tell” - is that by the time you realize that some conspiracy theorists were bang on the money, you’ve already discarded ALL of them in your subconcious, which then renders you totally unready for the accelerating pace of incoming harm - that can now be in total plain sight, as so many of us simply are not taking the incoming danger seriously AT ALL.
“I told you so” is of little comfort to people like myself, if I’m the solitary figure in this video on what looks like the duat boat through the underworld, and the 9 regions of the night prior to “final judgement” at the 10th region of the night.
Notice that this “Judgement” in the form of Sun Bursts - seems to destroy the “illuminati” structures, but by that point - for those already destroyed - it is all too late of course…
Like the girl with the apple, being warded from Evil - doesn’t help you much, if you’re the only one left.
“Hell” is sometimes described by Theolgians as “Eternal Seperation from God”.
It occurs to me that “Eternal Seperation from everyone you ever loved” is “Hell” for those people that never believed in such a concept…
Also, “Faith” that some people have, some don’t - is merely that warding circle around the girl…
She drops the apple, and “gives up” though, because surviving seems more terrible than perishing at that point…
Saw this story in the Daily Mail today…
That indo-semitic head looks strangely familliar too…
“Instant Disease” can be as straight-forward as “Instant Coffee” btw…
“Just add water at 30c and above to activate”…
If Porton Down still has samples of Smallpox, then it hasn’t really been eradicated - has it?
Deep State Freaks want to destroy as many people as possible, without being destroyed by incoming nukes in the process.
The greatest danger we all face at present then - is to be bumped off one-by-one ahead of the more expected, and conventional cataclysm that nuclear holocaust would bring if events were otherwise allowed to go onto their natural conclusion.
It is only a matter of time until some loose cannon like Zelensky sets of a nuke within Russia to “see if the dead man’s switch is a bluff” - only to find out that it wasn’t and we all fry, or it was and the Deep State get to roll out the next stage EPIdemic, now that nothing can stop them with Putin gone…
The World’s population have already been softened up to the classic “Cry Wolf” kneejerk response, next time around, after all…
People won’t stay at home for another “Lockdown” because the last one was all a phoney… next time around though? - It’ll be the real thing, and the NHS won’t be there to cure you of it, but I rather suspect to give you it to start with…
So, one of Campbells videos has been taken down, and he has been suspended for one week. Having not seen the vid in question, I dont know what it contains exactly, but it widely reported that it was an interview with the (ex-Tory) MP Bridgen. What Bridgen and Campbell actually said is the crux of the matter.
Personally I have a lot of misgiving about any censorship. Best to get it all out in public view and discuss it all. Having private companies such as YT (or one man: Musk on Twitter) doing that is another layer of worry.
Bridgen has been repeating nonsensical “facts and figures” for ages. So has Campbell. I expect the vid contained much of the same.
Every week Campbell is putting out multiple videos with mostly twisted data. When he does get called out he sometimes issues a correction in another video, but fails to take down the original lie! The fact the lie is still generating income might or might not be relevant?
Here is a brief history of Dr Campbell (Doctorate in Education, and ex Nurse) by Dr Wilson (Molecular Biology)
But see if what is said makes sense to you. youtube.com/watch?v=IhZf0of-gwE
