Illegal clearway signage?

One of the subbies got a ticket for parking at the side of the main carriageway on dunnings bridge road bootle. he wasnt on a break he was waiting for his turn to go into the delivery point
google.co.uk/maps/@53.48261 … 312!8i6656

but according to traffic signs manual chapter 3 section 9 the signage is not adequate nor should they be making a side road a clearway, it is also a dual carriageway with no laybys which the manual says should be provided.
assets.publishing.service.gov.u … ter-03.pdf

Get him to post details on www.pepipoo.com there are some well informed people on there who can help if he wants to.challenge the ticket.

Wildy:
Get him to post details on pepipoo.com there are some well informed people on there who can help if he wants to.challenge the ticket.

Good idea. I have to go there sometimes too, not sure how i will react if plod turn up.

But yet on a big sign affixed to the gate you’re told to park there to get into the builder’s merchants?

google.co.uk/maps/@53.48255 … 312!8i6656

Oh, and it’s different when the police sit in either end of that slip road bit to pull people into the check site at the top of the 57…

shullbit:
One of the subbies got a ticket for parking at the side of the main carriageway on dunnings bridge road bootle. he wasnt on a break he was waiting for his turn to go into the delivery point
google.co.uk/maps/@53.48261 … 312!8i6656

but according to traffic signs manual chapter 3 section 9 the signage is not adequate nor should they be making a side road a clearway, it is also a dual carriageway with no laybys which the manual says should be provided.
assets.publishing.service.gov.u … ter-03.pdf

Those signs were put up a few years ago to stop trucks parking overnight and dumping crap on the road. The trucks going to seaforth docks and Liverpool doesn`t want a truck stop build. Simple. :smiley:

Oh its on a slip road and not a dual carriageway :smiley:

Reading the regs, i can’t see how they justify the stop only in emergency signs as those are for laybys with emergency phones.

The trouble with the clearway amd layby regs is they say “should” not “must” which generally means its not absolutely manditory but recommended.

In this case i can’t see why they cant say loading only or max wait time 20 mins which would seem must more logical except maybe by the petrol station. That would give the same parking prevention as what they got.

Could perhaps have them on unneccessary strict signage at an appeal assuming said person parked on the sliproad not the main carriageway.

And yet directly across the road is a massive empty brown field site that would be ideal for a much needed truckstop. The amount of trucks that head into the docks alone would be sufficient to sustain a truckstops profits .

Firstly I would contact the highways authority to confirm that the signs have been erected on completion of the the order coming into effect, subject to all necessary formalities being completed.

Assuming that the waiting restrictions were legally enforceable I would then make a complaint against the builders merchants for inciting drivers to break the law by parking in a restricted place.

I got stopped for driving through a village with a 7.5 tonne limit and discovered that the council hadn’t followed the correct procedures and it was unenforceable for a further two months. I received an apology from the council and they also informed local police not to stop anyone pending completion of procedures.

Good luck.