Ignoring the micro analyzing, lots of BS about it

UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUMS THE UK PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS FORUM (INTERACTIVE)
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On returning after a considerable brake in driving, the change with most impact was all the technology and micro analysing…

Now back and comfortable, I’ve the conclusion of I just get my load from A to B, and drive the wagon as I always have,safely, if I use the brake because I prefer it to the exhaust brake for the situation, or hit the gas to get in front of the rush hour then I do, and actually enjoy driving again. But when first coming back in all the BS about micro analysing our driving meant nearly walked away again. But have learnt, from several jobs and agency work, a lot of the discussions are just BS about people being pulled up or fired over these analysis reports…

Have I just been lucky ? or is this the usual driver bull over these systems and checks…

as for internal cab cameras, I drink coffee eat sweets… (don’t vape or smoke as respect those that dont), all the posts I read about it, if I believed, I’d still be driving and hating it…

How many people have actually lost a job for not being perfect,

watch TV or use a mobile in your hand when driving you deserve to be bounced… but, hitting answer a call on your mobile, (hands free) or drinking coffee, or eating but not a sandwich with both hands, is not dangerous, or caused anyone I’ve met their job or even a warning, maybe a comment, but nothing to be concerned with.

Feels like alot of drama queens claim someone lost their job for xyz … but not them… eg… BS over dramatised story telling.

Anyone here actually lost a job over drinking a coffee, eating a sweet or touching their phone to just answer a call or for their mpg scores, breaking too hard or god forebid… turning all the modern BS off… because it puts some off, and in reality, it doesn’t seem to be very true…

Or maybe I’m.just lucky and everyone else I talk to… they all know someone that did, but never themselves…

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It’s not something I’ve ever bothered about.
If they don’t want me to work there,they only have to say.
No need for formalities.

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Where I am at, the technology is there in the trucks and managers can access the data. Drivers do not know their performance at all, and nothing gets fed back and nothing ever happens in terms of discipline as far as I know.

Not sure of the logic of paying for the technology and then not doing anything with it, but there you go. It would seem to make sense for the drivers to have access to where they might be able to improve, but apparently too much effort.

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Noremac:
Where I am at, the technology is there in the trucks and managers can access the data. Drivers do not know their performance at all, and nothing gets fed back and nothing ever happens in terms of discipline as far as I know.

Not sure of the logic of paying for the technology and then not doing anything with it, but there you go. It would seem to make sense for the drivers to have access to where they might be able to improve, but apparently too much effort.

I wouldn’t complain too much about it, it’s annoying as ■■■■ to have to listen to the ■■■■■■■■ every time you finish a shift

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Noremac:
Not sure of the logic of paying for the technology and then not doing anything with it, but there you go. It would seem to make sense for the drivers to have access to where they might be able to improve, but apparently too much effort.

The drivers do have access to it. On the Microlise tablet in the truck you can select an option to view your own data and depending on how its configured it’ll show your scores and even show each individual event recorded, including a location.

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I got a yellow on my coasting last week. Yeah because I went to Avonmouth and back. Purely all motorway 4 hours driving each way. Get tipped and come back empty which is just going to make my coasting worse. Yet if I get a job with 6-7 tips my coasting is fantastic because I have plenty of roundabouts and hills to crack on.

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I was on agency. Sent to DPD. Never shown the microlise. Not even told how to turn it on. :open_mouth: :smiley: Not a word was said.

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It all depends on the transport office.

I got a printout with several microlise scores in the G (A-G scoring) on this particular day. I get on with him so it was just a polite note to say some of this I can tolerate and some of this I can’t. I was pretty lucky it was him tbf as some of the others in the office are grumpy/moody ppl anyways.

My response was, well I only had 11 hours. Did 300 miles all over North Wales, did 5 drops (cage work) and still made it back to the depot on time. I had to drive like a ■■■■.

He just smiled and said it’s a DAF, it’s not gonna go any quicker if you mash the pedal.

I think if its one of those days where you just gotta get on with it and ignore the scores, fine. One off kinda thing. But if it happens all the time, I know my workplace would defo have strong words with me, at the very least.

A colleague recently got suspended for a week making YouTube videos at work. Was apparently touching the phone whilst driving to adjust the camera angle. (I haven’t seen the footage so I don’t know). Nothing came of it though, more of a PR ■■■■■■■■ thing where he’s wearing company uniform and his actions portray the company image blah blah blah.

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Conor:

Noremac:
Not sure of the logic of paying for the technology and then not doing anything with it, but there you go. It would seem to make sense for the drivers to have access to where they might be able to improve, but apparently too much effort.

The drivers do have access to it. On the Microlise tablet in the truck you can select an option to view your own data and depending on how its configured it’ll show your scores and even show each individual event recorded, including a location.

Microlise can be in the truck with no tablet being present.

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Noremac:
Microlise can be in the truck with no tablet being present.

Yes, I was about to add something similar. The only outfit I’ve seen who used it was Argos, with DHL managing their driving, and there was no driver access to the system.

It was a pointless and corrupt system, those who were getting “the good scores” were only doing 15 drops a day, those with the bad scores were on 70 to 75 (two-man lifts) drops per day. In the drivers areas were big whiteboards laid out like a giant league table of “top guys” and “ready to get the push” guys :unamused:
So the harder working staff were penalised - that makes sense doesn’t it :laughing:
Oh, and they would try to fob agency off with infrigements incurred by the full-timers, even when you gave them a printout to show you were in a different vehicle on that day :confused:

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Don’t even know what it is lol

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SWEDISH BLUE:
I was on agency. Sent to DPD. Never shown the microlise. Not even told how to turn it on. :open_mouth: :smiley: Not a word was said.

You don’t have to switch it on or “log on” etc. That little handheld device is only needed for electronic PODs and to log your progress as you make your deliveries/collections etc. The driver monitoring/performance stuff is always active.

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It’s on my ever increasing cgaf/cba list.
We got them or something similar fitted a few years ago,.and out of feigned interest I used to look at the list, …In fact I was top of the league table for first few weeks without driving any differently for it.
Have not checked the list for ages,.don’t even know if there still.actually is one tbh,.
Ive never been pulled up for anything, so that’s about it from my usual cavalier pov on this sort of crap… :smiley:

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Maybe there’s something in place not sure, but nothing is ever said, if something was said i’d tell them what they wanted to hear then carry on the same as always.

Always had among the best fuel figures, use the brakes sparingly by allowing the vehicle to run on using terrain to assist acceleration and braking where possible, brake tyre and general vehicle wear are better than most, so what exactly is the point of all this electronic faff…other than to provide lucrative incomes for the people who make it and those who sell it :bulb: and to provide someone or several at the user end with yet more non productive jobs monitoring drivers, select your drivers right in the first place pay them well treat them with respect allow them to get on with their work and you don’t need any of this tat, be interesting to know just how much companies pay out every year for electronic devices, be even more interesting to know if anyone responsible has completed a cost benefit analysis and what the results were.

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Some of the places I’ve worked have had the printout and scores on the notice boards. I don’t look at them so as not to worry about it when I’m driving.

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MikeDBristol:
Some of the places I’ve worked have had the printout and scores on the notice boards. I don’t look at them so as not to worry about it when I’m driving.

You would actually ‘‘worry’’ about it? :open_mouth:

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robroy:

MikeDBristol:
Some of the places I’ve worked have had the printout and scores on the notice boards. I don’t look at them so as not to worry about it when I’m driving.

You would actually ‘‘worry’’ about it? :open_mouth:

Well, it’s not a worry so much Rob, " worry " is too strong of a word, more like, “have it on my mind”.

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MikeDBristol:

robroy:

MikeDBristol:
Some of the places I’ve worked have had the printout and scores on the notice boards. I don’t look at them so as not to worry about it when I’m driving.

You would actually ‘‘worry’’ about it? :open_mouth:

Well, it’s not a worry so much Rob, " worry " is too strong of a word, more like, “have it on my mind”.

Ok mate. :smiley:
Thing is this though this is exactly what they want.
What I have found in my experience is the more seriously you take their latest bs type ‘schemes’, the more it encourages them.
So I find a more casual nonchalent attitude towards them does the trick,… but better still it annoys them. :grimacing:

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Conor:

Noremac:
Not sure of the logic of paying for the technology and then not doing anything with it, but there you go. It would seem to make sense for the drivers to have access to where they might be able to improve, but apparently too much effort.

The drivers do have access to it. On the Microlise tablet in the truck you can select an option to view your own data and depending on how its configured it’ll show your scores and even show each individual event recorded, including a location.

If you have microlise tablets installed that would be true. But not every company using microlise has tablets installed in the vehicles. We are just given a qr code to set it up on our phones via the microlise DPM app.

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