…from overhead network is called Trolleybus, will them be called trolley-truck?
Before my time but we had trolley busses here up to the 60s
Yes, that’s a cracking idea.
Until some gonk tries to overtake, forgetting they’ve got the biz bars up and ripping all the wiring down 
Maybe they should put the trucks on rails so that couldn’t happen■■?
Oh, wait a minute, I think someone has already tried that…
won’t catch on. the french will do you for being overheight.
Scania will have to add subwoofer and a computer of v8 noises to satisfy the scanny bummers
gogzy:
Scania will have to add subwoofer and a computer of v8 noises to satisfy the scanny bummers
Then again think how bright the fog lights would be 
kr79:
Before my time but we had trolley busses here up to the 60s
There are still three or maybe four network in Poland and many cities consider getting back to this solution - much cheaper that trams and quieter and less pollluting than buses… And with hybrid solutions like this one:
You can go off the network as well.
The idea has been around for many years
And these below in use today
As for trolley buses any one remember Bradford in 1972?
Take a look at this Bradford Trolleybuses web site.
We had them up here (Manchester) too, before my time though 
cracking idea ( NOT)
What happens if some sod nicks the cables? it will still mess things up and the trolleys will be useless
More Trolleylorries can be found HERE on Flickr.
And who knows what THIS is?
That was some crazy idea…
It’s an effin big photie, that’s what it is!
Better now?
It’s Gyrobus The electricity drawn from the posts on the bus-stops is used to spin the flywheel and that energy is then used to take it to the next stop…
Range about 6km, some reports say ten…
I guess it could be interesting to drive due to gyroscope effect… .
I used to go to work in Cardiff on a trollybus.
The future?
What a complete waste of time and money FFS ? I wonder how many millions some pillocks got to research all that crap and set it up.
There is a very good reason why trolley buses died out … THEY DIDN’T WORK OUT 
You can’t overtake, you can’t just stop when you want and from what I remember as a child the pantagraph would often become disconected from the power cables.
Can you imagine the network of overhead wires needed to provide access to every building etc ?
Pat Hasler:
What a complete waste of time and money FFS ? I wonder how many millions some pillocks got to research all that crap and set it up.
There is a very good reason why trolley buses died out … THEY DIDN’T WORK OUT
You can’t overtake, you can’t just stop when you want and from what I remember as a child the pantagraph would often become disconected from the power cables.
Can you imagine the network of overhead wires needed to provide access to every building etc ?
^ +1
I can remember the last days of them going through Maidstone in the mid 1960’s.
Maybe they’d work in Switzerland with cheap hydro electricity but turning coal or whatever into electricity and then transmitting it and then turning it into motive effort at the wheels costs more in fuel costs and maintenance than just fitting the thing with a proper engine and transmission.Nuclear generated electricity is even more expensive than coal and a a bit of pollution from an engine isn’t exactly as bad as nuclear waste or the results of a nuclear power station accident.
youtube.com/watch?feature=en … 3BpKUD-Et0
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Pat Hasler:
What a complete waste of time and money FFS ? I wonder how many millions some pillocks got to research all that crap and set it up.
There is a very good reason why trolley buses died out … THEY DIDN’T WORK OUT
You can’t overtake, you can’t just stop when you want and from what I remember as a child the pantagraph would often become disconected from the power cables.
Can you imagine the network of overhead wires needed to provide access to every building etc ?
You are wrong. They work pretty well, I used to ride of them in Sopot or in Lublin. They are quiet, they have much better acceleration than buses and they did not emit pollution in town centres.
Off course you can overtake (just not only other troleybuses while powered) and the modern hybrid versions (like Solaris Trollino I gave few posts up) can disconect from the wires easily and go on their own as demonstrated on the movie.
At the same time they are cheaper than trams and less noisy…
Advantages: realtively cheap network (compared to trams)
flexibility of modern hybrid versions
quiet
cheap to run (especially on today’s diesel prices)
very good acceleration
chepaer to buy than trams (even the hybrid versions)
zero emissions (unless you power them from coal plant, but even there they do not pollute the cities)
Disadvantages: unlike buses need infrastructure
less capacity than trams
need more space on the road than trams
more expensive to buy then buses
I think this is very good alternative for trams in places where it’s not worth to build tram tracks etc but buses became to noisy and can be viewed as part of the wider range of the public transport option
They were ruled out in most places allover the world, together with trams, as for some reason they were considered obsolete and buses were considered as modern future… Some say it was due to lobbing of the oil industry and vehicle manufacturer, there was even some documentary on youtube, but I can’t find it now showing how the tram networks in USA were first replaced by the buses and then the bus service was deliberately made poor to force people to buy their own cars…
Carryfast:
Maybe they’d work in Switzerland with cheap hydro electricity but turning coal or whatever into electricity and then transmitting it and then turning it into motive effort at the wheels costs more in fuel costs and maintenance than just fitting the thing with a proper engine and transmission.
Tell me then - why bother to electrificate the train lines, if diesel engines that just have proper engine fitted, would be better and cheaper?
Nuclear generated electricity is even more expensive than coal and a a bit of pollution from an engine isn’t exactly as bad as nuclear waste or the results of a nuclear power station accident.
How much nuclear power station accidents happened so far? Remind you Chernobyl was a human deliberate breaking of the several stages of safety procedures, Fukushima is holding great if you consider how hard it was hit compared to what it was designed to and apart from Three Mile Island, where, agian, the effect were multiplied by the human mistakes and even despite that it wasn’t a big deal. I am quite familiar with the subject, but I just don’t want to start another discussion on nuclear energetics (and especially with you, as you alwas seems to know everything best).
I would just give you few facts:
- if you check how many people die per unit of energy, you’ll find that nuclear energetics is the safest. Even windfarms are more dangerous due to accidents when constructing them
- burning coal also emits nuclear isotopes, but, unlike as it happens with nuclear waste, it is not stored safely, but just spread to the atmosphere… My friend did PhD in geology and she found out that Kraków market square is much worse polluted by nuclear isotopes than most of Chernobyl zone (and it’s just because she works in Kraków, I would guess that would be true to many other places near to big coal plants/steelmills etc).
It’s fascinating how people are afraid of the technology they could not understand… The most funny bit for me is that after Fukushima accident, that kill few people, all Europe goes panic and everyone suddenly want to scrap nuclear technology… But when in Japan 1000s of people died because of Tsunami waves, noone postulate abandon building houses on the coast… Nor nobody opposes chemical plants after that accident in India that killed 20000 people in 70s…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=M3BpKUD-Et0
10.06-13.20
Oh, yes, that sums it up, trolleybuses are bad today, because we do have completely the same conditions today and the same factors should be considered as they were in 1950 Britain 
orys:
Pat Hasler:
What a complete waste of time and money FFS ? I wonder how many millions some pillocks got to research all that crap and set it up.
There is a very good reason why trolley buses died out … THEY DIDN’T WORK OUT
You can’t overtake, you can’t just stop when you want and from what I remember as a child the pantagraph would often become disconected from the power cables.
Can you imagine the network of overhead wires needed to provide access to every building etc ?You are wrong. They work pretty well, I used to ride of them in Sopot or in Lublin. They are quiet, they have much better acceleration than buses and they did not emit pollution in town centres.
Off course you can overtake (just not only other troleybuses while powered) and the modern hybrid versions (like Solaris Trollino I gave few posts up) can disconect from the wires easily and go on their own as demonstrated on the movie.
At the same time they are cheaper than trams and less noisy…
Advantages: realtively cheap network (compared to trams)
flexibility of modern hybrid versions
quiet
cheap to run (especially on today’s diesel prices)
very good acceleration
chepaer to buy than trams (even the hybrid versions)
zero emissions (unless you power them from coal plant, but even there they do not pollute the cities)Disadvantages: unlike buses need infrastructure
less capacity than trams
need more space on the road than trams
more expensive to buy then busesI think this is very good alternative for trams in places where it’s not worth to build tram tracks etc but buses became to noisy and can be viewed as part of the wider range of the public transport option
They were ruled out in most places allover the world, together with trams, as for some reason they were considered obsolete and buses were considered as modern future… Some say it was due to lobbing of the oil industry and vehicle manufacturer, there was even some documentary on youtube, but I can’t find it now showing how the tram networks in USA were first replaced by the buses and then the bus service was deliberately made poor to force people to buy their own cars…
Orys physics says that it’s more expensive and less efficient to convert fossil fuel into electricity and then transmit it over miles of expensive cabling and then turn it back into motive force at the wheels while electric drive componentry is usually also more expensive to maintain than a conventional IC engine and transmission.While nuclear power generation is even more expensive.
That’s why the towns here aren’t still full of trolley buses running around like in the 1930’s-1950’s. 