Idiots guide to container work

I don’t know where some of these guys work, but if you were to work out of Teesport and pulling ECS boxes, then in the back you will go. Self tip at Aldi, Lidl w ith electric pump trucks, but as Asda Grangemouth, Somerfield and several others it is a hand pump or no tip. Despite contacting HSE still no joy, moral of the story, don’t work for anyone who pulls ECS boxes!

bigdennis:
I don’t know where some of these guys work, but if you were to work out of Teesport and pulling ECS boxes, then in the back you will go. Self tip at Aldi, Lidl w ith electric pump trucks, but as Asda Grangemouth, Somerfield and several others it is a hand pump or no tip. Despite contacting HSE still no joy, moral of the story, don’t work for anyone who pulls ECS boxes!

I work for JMD and pull mainly ACL, Grimaldi, Hapag and CMA boxes. I got in my cab this week to see a few missed calls on my fone. I rang back and said sorry i was helping the guy in the back to load up. I got told in no uncertain terms not to get in the back and don’t do it again. Reason? The shippers do not insure or instruct me to do so and if i have an accident i’m on my own. I would imagine ECS are instructed, paid and insured to get in the back?

Mike-C:

bigdennis:
I don’t know where some of these guys work, but if you were to work out of Teesport and pulling ECS boxes, then in the back you will go. Self tip at Aldi, Lidl w ith electric pump trucks, but as Asda Grangemouth, Somerfield and several others it is a hand pump or no tip. Despite contacting HSE still no joy, moral of the story, don’t work for anyone who pulls ECS boxes!

I work for JMD and pull mainly ACL, Grimaldi, Hapag and CMA boxes. I got in my cab this week to see a few missed calls on my fone. I rang back and said sorry i was helping the guy in the back to load up. I got told in no uncertain terms not to get in the back and don’t do it again. Reason? The shippers do not insure or instruct me to do so and if i have an accident i’m on my own. I would imagine ECS are instructed, paid and insured to get in the back?

They are,same with Geest/Samskip and all the other SHORT SEA (European)Shipping Companies.(I think its mainly at Lidl that your expected to tip your own box.)
Its when its DEEP SEA i.e Boxes from anywhere else in the world that you are NOT insured to get in the back.
I’ve done it though,although not for a long time as the company that im on for now,its a sackable offence. :wink:
I’d rather sleep anyway.

Mike-C:

bigdennis:
I don’t know where some of these guys work, but if you were to work out of Teesport and pulling ECS boxes, then in the back you will go. Self tip at Aldi, Lidl w ith electric pump trucks, but as Asda Grangemouth, Somerfield and several others it is a hand pump or no tip. Despite contacting HSE still no joy, moral of the story, don’t work for anyone who pulls ECS boxes!

just have a pallet over each time you do it, the last one is best for obvious reasons, it won’t take long before they get sick of it, the more that do it the sooner this bollox will stop :smiling_imp:

I work for JMD and pull mainly ACL, Grimaldi, Hapag and CMA boxes. I got in my cab this week to see a few missed calls on my fone. I rang back and said sorry i was helping the guy in the back to load up. I got told in no uncertain terms not to get in the back and don’t do it again. Reason? The shippers do not insure or instruct me to do so and if i have an accident i’m on my own. I would imagine ECS are instructed, paid and insured to get in the back?

This insurance thing is a myth, you are covered by your employers liability & the delivery points public liability, as well as the method I described above you could always limp badly as you book in & tell them you’re just back after a knee operation & can’t take this risk of it popping out, which if it did would result in a court case against them, works everytime :wink: :laughing:

The simple answer on this is you ask your boss and my boss says a “DEFINITE NO” to getting in the container Deep Sea or Short Sea it is as simple as that.

Insurance has nothing to do with it, as try telling an insurance company you disobeyed a company instruction i.e. “don,t get in the container” and then had an accident, result damages reduced for reasons of “contributory negligence”

That statement incidentally was from a “H & S” manager at the firm I was a safety rep. at as he also said “Yes” you would get damages but drastically reduced for the reasons stated.

NEJ:
The simple answer on this is you ask your boss and my boss says a “DEFINITE NO” to getting in the container Deep Sea or Short Sea it is as simple as that.

Insurance has nothing to do with it, as try telling an insurance company you disobeyed a company instruction i.e. “don,t get in the container” and then had an accident, result damages reduced for reasons of “contributory negligence”

That statement incidentally was from a “H & S” manager at the firm I was a safety rep. at as he also said “Yes” you would get damages but drastically reduced for the reasons stated.

There is an issue with liability for the goods: with a deep sea container, it is the consignor’s responsibility to load and secure (which doesn’t negate the driver’s responsibility for it being safe to travel, though) and so any transit damage or shortage is NOT down to the haulier or to the shipping line.

Likewise, it is their responsibility to unload the container. It’s nice to be helpful but what happens if you help them and you accidentally drop or break something?

As soon as you involve yourself in something that is their responsibility you can implicate yourself (and your employer and customer) in the event of anything going wrong.