44 Tonne Ton:
Drivers face a 50 per cent rise in fuel duty to make up a tax shortfall from 'green' cars | Daily Mail Online
They also want us to stop drinking and smoking too, so what will they tax to cover their losses then 
green456:
44 Tonne Ton:
Drivers face a 50 per cent rise in fuel duty to make up a tax shortfall from 'green' cars | Daily Mail OnlineThey also want us to stop drinking and smoking too, so what will they tax to cover their losses then
■■■! I will have a very small tax bill as I am in the self-employed category… 
44 Tonne Ton:
green456:
44 Tonne Ton:
Drivers face a 50 per cent rise in fuel duty to make up a tax shortfall from 'green' cars | Daily Mail OnlineThey also want us to stop drinking and smoking too, so what will they tax to cover their losses then
**■■■! I will have a very small tax bill as I am in the self-employed category… [/**quote]
HeHeHe maybe they will start taxing hand movements !!!
Madguy 
Guess the same is happening to gas and electric…
We use less due to boilers, lights and appliances etc getting more efficient, so the utility companies put the prices up to make up for the ‘shortfall’. 
But blame the easy one… ‘Wholesale prices going up’ Yeah, right. So what will happen when everyone gets these solar PV panels fitted and no one uses the utility’s leccy anymore??..
Hiyas …when we all get solar panels there’ll be a tax on them…my mate has a well for his water,
the water boffins have started checking the water to make sure its pure(hes been using the well
for 60 years) and charge him for there service, which he has told them he dose’nt want.
in other words you cant get free water even when it spurts out of the ground.
3300John:
Hiyas …when we all get solar panels there’ll be a tax on them…my mate has a well for his water,
the water boffins have started checking the water to make sure its pure(hes been using the well
for 60 years) and charge him for there service, which he has told them he dose’nt want.
in other words you cant get free water even when it spurts out of the ground.
The water companies are on a definate winner, the rain falls on your roof and they charge you to take it away
then they sell it back to you and charge you to take it away again 
Typical Daily Mail scare mongering, the report, funded by the RAC, says the government needs to look at other ways to raise the tax that it will lose from alternative energy vehicles. And if they put that much on fuel duty surely it will be diminishing returns as even more people will switch to electric vehicles.
What they’ll do is find a way of tacing those with Electric vehicles or they are softening us up for road pricing, which also means they’ll know exactly when and where we are driving.
It’s what happened to LPG…as soon as people started to use it the price doubled in no time…if leccy cars were pop 
ular (and they are no more enviromentally friendly than oil burners due to the leccy coming from coal powered sources), the government will tax the leccy car to the hilt as well.
If peolpe decided to all wear a blue hat with a red feather in it en masse, they would tax those as well.
It’s cos they’re all ■■■■■
I wouldnt have an issue with road pricing if there was no VED and and no fuel duty or VAT on fuel. Oh and no tolls anywhere and no congestion charge.
I say abolish national tax and keep it local instead.
Pay tax to your town council, for, local hospitals,dustbins,roads etc i.e. all the stuff I actually use.
Everything else, pay as you go.
That way,there’d be no cash for the EU crap,Holyrood,Welsh Assembly,aid to nations that squander it,
aid to nations that don’t need it [i.e. India,Scotland,Wales], Quango’s, and everything else that annoys me.
Bank and Corporation tax etc can pay for Westminster and the Civil List.
44 Tonne Ton:
Drivers face a 50 per cent rise in fuel duty to make up a tax shortfall from 'green' cars | Daily Mail Online
That article is just another example of a Daily Mail attention grabbing non story which is certain to not let the facts get in the way of a good scaremongering headline.
57p up to 87p over 13 years is only just over 3% per year, which is less than inflation, meaning that if that story is true fuel duty will be lower in real terms in 2029 than it is now. Panic over.
Paul
You hear the radio today? They want to tax ‘fatty foods’ next. 
Where will it end? It’s becoming laughable now, as if it wasn’t already.
muckles:
Typical Daily Mail scare mongering, the report, funded by the RAC, says the government needs to look at other ways to raise the tax that it will lose from alternative energy vehicles. And if they put that much on fuel duty surely it will be diminishing returns as even more people will switch to electric vehicles.What they’ll do is find a way of tacing those with Electric vehicles or they are softening us up for road pricing, which also means they’ll know exactly when and where we are driving.
How is it scaremongering? The gist of the article is quite simple? When a Government starts to see a drop in tax revenues in one area they will seek to replace those lost/reduced taxes from somewhere else. It’s not rocket science.
repton:
44 Tonne Ton:
Drivers face a 50 per cent rise in fuel duty to make up a tax shortfall from 'green' cars | Daily Mail OnlineThat article is just another example of a Daily Mail attention grabbing non story which is certain to not let the facts get in the way of a good scaremongering headline.
57p up to 87p over 13 years is only just over 3% per year, which is less than inflation, meaning that if that story is true fuel duty will be lower in real terms in 2029 than it is now. Panic over.
Paul
See my reply to Muckles, you! 
44 Tonne Ton:
muckles:
Typical Daily Mail scare mongering, the report, funded by the RAC, says the government needs to look at other ways to raise the tax that it will lose from alternative energy vehicles. And if they put that much on fuel duty surely it will be diminishing returns as even more people will switch to electric vehicles.What they’ll do is find a way of tacing those with Electric vehicles or they are softening us up for road pricing, which also means they’ll know exactly when and where we are driving.
How is it scaremongering? The gist of the article is quite simple? When a Government starts to see a drop in tax revenues in one area they will seek to replace those lost/reduced taxes from somewhere else. It’s not rocket science.
we cant expect them to do what real people do and cut the money they waste. it really isnt that complicated. income drops, spending drops! you cant spend what you dont have and they neednt look at joe public cos we dont have it either so we cant bail them out. greed got them there in the first place
44 Tonne Ton:
How is it scaremongering? The gist of the article is quite simple? When a Government starts to see a drop in tax revenues in one area they will seek to replace those lost/reduced taxes from somewhere else. It’s not rocket science.
If that is the point of the article then it’s still a non story as it is simply stating the obvious. Like you say it’s not rocket science, if the government loses income from one source it has to get it back from another. Surely we don’t need the Daily Mail (or any other newspaper for that matter) to point that out…
Paul
repton:
44 Tonne Ton:
How is it scaremongering? The gist of the article is quite simple? When a Government starts to see a drop in tax revenues in one area they will seek to replace those lost/reduced taxes from somewhere else. It’s not rocket science.If that is the point of the article then it’s still a non story as it is simply stating the obvious. Like you say it’s not rocket science, if the government loses income from one source it has to get it back from another. Surely we don’t need the Daily Mail (or any other newspaper for that matter) to point that out…
Paul
It may or may not be the main reason for the article but as I didn’t write it I don’t know! As I said somewhere else, it’s something to talk about/think about. it’s kinda why a forum exists…
scanny77:
44 Tonne Ton:
muckles:
Typical Daily Mail scare mongering, the report, funded by the RAC, says the government needs to look at other ways to raise the tax that it will lose from alternative energy vehicles. And if they put that much on fuel duty surely it will be diminishing returns as even more people will switch to electric vehicles.What they’ll do is find a way of tacing those with Electric vehicles or they are softening us up for road pricing, which also means they’ll know exactly when and where we are driving.
How is it scaremongering? The gist of the article is quite simple? When a Government starts to see a drop in tax revenues in one area they will seek to replace those lost/reduced taxes from somewhere else. It’s not rocket science.
it really isnt that complicated. income drops, spending drops! you cant spend what you dont have and they neednt look at joe public cos we dont have it either so we cant bail them out.
^ This.