On Saturday I started work in the warehouse (work as a warehouse opp’). My day was as follows:
Worked in the warehouse 6am - 1pm.
Driving (3.5t van) 1pm - 7:15pm (with a toilet stop and quick break thrown in).
I now understand that this is covered by domestic hours which states that you can’t work over 10 hours. I worked 13.5. Am I right and should I be worried with me starting my HGV training soon?
Tarrman:
On Saturday I started work in the warehouse (work as a warehouse opp’). My day was as follows:Worked in the warehouse 6am - 1pm.
Driving (3.5t van) 1pm - 7:15pm (with a toilet stop and quick break thrown in).I now understand that this is covered by domestic hours which states that you can’t work over 10 hours. I worked 13.5. Am I right and should I be worried with me starting my HGV training soon?
who cares, if your not caught at the time do not worry about it …
I wouldn’t worry
No it only applies to goods vehicles above 3.5 tonnes i think.
I was reading a thread on here about van drivers being covered by domestic regulations? If 3.5t vans arn’t covered then happy days.
Domestic hours is 11 hours work in 24 and 10 hours drive in 24
Domestic records are written manually by you onto a time sheet
Some are paid from those time sheets and others are not - that is down to the company and your contract
So… don’t answer this … what did you put on your official record and how are you paid … walks away whistling …
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Lorn trakta:
Tarrman:
On Saturday I started work in the warehouse (work as a warehouse opp’). My day was as follows:Worked in the warehouse 6am - 1pm.
Driving (3.5t van) 1pm - 7:15pm (with a toilet stop and quick break thrown in).I now understand that this is covered by domestic hours which states that you can’t work over 10 hours. I worked 13.5. Am I right and should I be worried with me starting my HGV training soon?
First I must commend the ‘education’ system for so successfuly inplanting in your mind the need to ‘comply’, next step ‘turn yourself in’, you’ll never be able to concentrate on your hgv training with this crime plaguing your ‘good eu citizen’ mind, will you?
Jut trying to do things right 
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My mate used to have his own van business, would do rough 20hours on and take 4 off, was pull by vosa regaurly and not once asked about how many hours he and th other drivers were doing.
Lorn trakta:
by Tarrman » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:13 amJut trying to do things right
In the eyes of the ‘real world’ your guilty of nothing, all the very best wishes for you in your hgv training btw.
Thanks 
Saaamon:
My mate used to have his own van business, would do rough 20hours on and take 4 off, was pull by vosa regaurly and not once asked about how many hours he and th other drivers were doing.
Just thought I’d check, I’m new to all the hours rules & regs’ so still got much to learn.
A 3.5t van is covered by domestic rules as already stated. 11 hours duty and 10 hours drive. Duty and Drive are not the same as duty and drive under EU Regs. Under domestic rules Driving is all the time you are in charge of the vehicle for the purposes of driving even if the vehicle is stationary with the engine running. Duty is only the bits where you do some work - so doesn’t include breaks and periods when doing nothing. So drive and duty are virtually the opposite of what they are under EU Regs. Therefore your duty isn’t always start time to finish time (like EU Regs). if you had some decent breaks they don’t count as duty time
Also - as a 3.5t van it is exempt Operator Licensing. therefore under domestic regs it is exempt any form of record keeping and no records were legally required meaning VOSA do not know what you did and you don’t have to tell them.
The driving of the 3.5t counts as work under EU Regs - so you didn’t do any driving as far as those regs are concerned.
In my opinion you’ve nothing at all to worry about.
Also - you don’t even need to worry about the WTD - under domestic rules you can opt out of the 48 hour average 
Have a look at domestic rules for PCV’s … now that does get confusing and worrying. Bus drivers don’t legally need to make any records. They can opt out of WTD. They can work a 16 duty period and then have 10 hours rest or they can reduce daily rest to 8.5 hour three times a week (yes I said ‘a week’) and can work 11 days consecutively needing only 24 hours weekly rest once in any two consecutive weeks.
Domestic rules for goods vehicles are simple as long as there’s no operator licence in the window.
But - me being a DCPC trainer I’m probably talking outta my arse
You should be very worried, carry a tub of Vaseline round with you and 500quid as a bribe.
merc0447:
You should be very worried, carry a tub of Vaseline round with you and 500quid as a bribe.
and a blow up doll and VOSA will love you forever