I said i'd never do it

i’ve been offered some temporary work. it’s come just at the right time as things are a bit hit and miss at our place at the moment.
the trouble is, it’s hourly pay, i’ve always said i won’t do hourly pay. however it’s a guaranteed 12 hours per shift at £14 per hour. so if i just tell myself that i’m on £168 per shift, then it won’t seem so degrading.
is that a good rate/average/or poor rate for nights?

Depending where you live its a reasonable rate assuming its on the books not self employed and mon to fri nights, not wondeful but many are working nights for 9 to £10 and some less.

One point, if the job happens to run over the 12 do you get paid extra.

Juddian:
Depending where you live its a reasonable rate assuming its on the books not self employed and mon to fri nights, not wondeful but many are working nights for 9 to £10 and some less.

One point, if the job happens to run over the 12 do you get paid extra.

i think it’s self employed/ltd company. they mentioned something about an unbrella company if i want it that way.
the full thing about rates i’ll find out on monday.

limeyphil:
i’ve been offered some temporary work. it’s come just at the right time as things are a bit hit and miss at our place at the moment.
the trouble is, it’s hourly pay, i’ve always said i won’t do hourly pay. however it’s a guaranteed 12 hours per shift at £14 per hour. so if i just tell myself that i’m on £168 per shift, then it won’t seem so degrading.
is that a good rate/average/or poor rate for nights?

What a joke! If i did a 9 hour shift, hit some bad traffic or a delay at RDC an ended up doing a 15 hour shift but only got paid for 9 hours because I get paid per shift not hourly then that would be degrading.

I would say the money is very good, shame its only temp.

surley a wind

limeyphil:
i’ve been offered some temporary work. it’s come just at the right time as things are a bit hit and miss at our place at the moment.
the trouble is, it’s hourly pay, i’ve always said i won’t do hourly pay. however it’s a guaranteed 12 hours per shift at £14 per hour. so if i just tell myself that i’m on £168 per shift, then it won’t seem so degrading.
is that a good rate/average/or poor rate for nights?

Don’t listen to anyone who says its good pay its terrible so don’t degrade yourself by taking it, insist on at least £200 per night shift.

bjd:
surley a wind

Not really, if you work for Premier Employment out of Chingford they offer that £14 ph for night £17 for sunday etc … but that is london and as rightly says depends where you are up county Durham way prob get minimum wage for the 15 hours minus the privelage of driving the truck

Well, conflicting opinions…there’s a surprise!

So what is a good/average night rate?

I’d choose night work if I could get it locally due to family stuff.

I would say that Phil is a man of the world and has spent enough time in the industry and on the forums to know if its a good or bad rate (if the job even exists).

my old firm used to pay 150 for a night shift,on hire to a road widening project -that was for the ten hrs the main contractor had to pay for the hire.sometimes them sh!tehouses would have you there from half seven at night until half five in the morning just because they were paying for ten hrs even if they had no work(they would find some poxy job though)
but if you were working for a subby and they knew you,they might tell you not to get there until half nine or ten o’clock,and you might be finished by half two!! this was the exception rather than the rule and you would normally be out all bloody night.i hated it with a passion,and would have to be very desparate to go back on it(because of the work,not the money).it was only £20 quid more than we got for days!!
this was hiab and grab work by the way,out in all weathers all night.

846 quid a week!!! Naaaa ■■■■ money.

My nights work out at £10.28 per hour

If it’s PAYE for no more than 12 hours a shift, then I’d say it’s great money.

If it’s umbrella for 12-15 hours per shift, it’s not as good as a night off instead. :wink:

Juddian:
Depending where you live its a reasonable rate assuming its on the books not self employed and mon to fri nights, not wondeful but many are working nights for 9 to £10 and some less.

One point, if the job happens to run over the 12 do you get paid extra.

May i ask who your on for, everytime someone puts up what they earn hourly no matter how much you say its poor. I work for an east anglian firm so assume you do too, so just interested in who pays the most as you obviously seem to work for that company.

I’d call 14 quid an hour bloody good myself, would love to be anywhere near that atm.

“If the job exists!” Quality observation about this particular person. :laughing:

bigvern1:
“If the job exists!” Quality observation about this particular person. :laughing:

Wind up me thinks.

I wouldn;t get out of bed for that :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Anyway, nice to brag though

it’s a royal mail job. lasts up to christmas eve.
you can check it out youselves on the job centre website.

Saaamon:

Juddian:
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May i ask who your on for, everytime someone puts up what they earn hourly no matter how much you say its poor. I work for an east anglian firm so assume you do too, so just interested in who pays the most as you obviously seem to work for that company.

I’d rather not say Saaamon, and i’m sorry if i come across badly, i don’t mean to.

I try to give my honest opinion about money, quite lucky living in Northants as thats a heavily transport oriented area.

Maybe i’m wrong but i try to discourage drivers from accepting poor pay and conditions as being our lot, like it or lump it.
We as drivers have a set of skills, what we should be doing is honing those skills and making ourselves indespensible if you like.
If we make ourselves dependable, don’t throw sickies, do a good job without having accidents or causing damage then we deserve a good days or especially nights pay for a fair amount of work.

Too many drivers IMO are a bit too cab happy, prepared to accept sub standard pay and conditions in some cases in order to drive a certain lorry or have the easiest possible work, which often enough means the driver concerned becoming a fat blighter in short order and prone to illness.

We’ve recently had heated arguments here with an increasing number of drivers seemingly prepared to stab in the back other drivers in dispute…mainly for the reason that they negotiated over the years good terms and conditions and some feel that they should come down to the lowest level as some sort of punishment.

I’m not trying to relight those arguments, just trying to put over…badly as usual…why i feel that too many of our fellow drivers sell themselves short, we shoudln’t be racing to the bottom we should be aligning ourselves with drivers on good terms helping them to keep them and eventually getting on there too.

The figure our OP mentioned is a fair wage for nights, if its mon to fri and in an outlying area then its very good, if it involves weekends or in a high wage area then its only just good enough…all my opinion, i don’t ask anyone to agree.

Theres only so far down we should accept this wage spiral to descend, as i posted in another thread my local Aldi were advertising for shop staff at starting wage of £9.40 an hour IIRC, shop workers don’t have to jump through a thousand hoops to get their licence and it doesn’t cost them regularly to upkeep one either.

I was on car transporters for many years and earned good money but for seriously hard work, it galls me to see blokes working 80 hour weeks for a very average wage and the living in a tin can all week for the privelidge and counting subsistence money as wages, these blokes IMO would be far better to look for supermarket type or similar work where available where they may well earn the same as they are now but for probably 30 hours a week less.

That doesn’t apply to all and some blokes will be happiest driving what they want to drive and living their own personal dream and the best of luck to them.

I want to see the best drivers being recruited by those companies offering the best terms and conditions, in that way forcing the others to come up with the goods.

Hope that explains my attitude, probably not…cheers for now.