In my company the transport manager analyses all of the tachos on this little machine which then prints out any infringements for us to sign and keep. I had a letter today with this error :-
WTD - Excess daily work due to night time working
Basically I either start at 6,5 or 4 am(the 4 o’clock is quite rare!!) but one day after staying out for the night I decided to leave the services early because I wanted to get home early, so I left at 03.36, this letter is telling me I can’t start before 4 because I’m a day shift worker??
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Have any of you come across this? I didn’t know until today?
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I think if you start before 4am then you’re classed as night shift and can only work 10 hours max
I’ll second that - the before 4am start became an issue in my old job and I argued this over and over again, the boss never listened though. I’m almost certain about the “night worker” thing; start before 4 and you can only do 10 hours of work (any work) I’m not sure if a tacho break is included in this 10hrs though or p.o.a.
Ahh right!!! so I can start before 4, but I can’t work over 10 hours?? because it does say that I worked 11 hours 47 mins on that day!
I just want to be clear then, it’s not saying my infringement is for working before 4 but because I started before4 and went over 10 hours??
Don’t forget you can have a collective workforce opt out from the night worker rule. ![]()
How many hours did you work (driving + other work only) on the day when you started before 4am ?
Whilst I was composing this you just posted that info - thanks
I worked 11 hours 47 mins on that day!
If that was excluding breaks and any POA then…
because I started before 4 and went over 10 hours??
yes unless as the other post says…
a collective workforce opt out from the night worker rule
Giddy:
this letter is telling me I can’t start before 4 because I’m a day shift worker??
The company may have a policy to that effect for their day drivers but it is not illegal to do so
Its not illegal but unless you have a workforce agreement in place you are restricted to the 10 hour rule, that doesn’t include rest & POA by the way.
So whenever you start before 4am and therefore, can only do a 10 hr max, don’t forget to make a note of the days this happens and then at the end of the month, when you don’t have enough money to pay the bills, send a short letter the the people who police the WTD and they will send you any shortfall.Alternatively, tell them to shove it. Nobody else in the UK gives a toss about the WTD and if people want to work and earn a decent crust, why the hell do we let some foreigner (and remember, they can’t even make decent cheese abroad let alone run the world) dictate to us.
I don’t know of any other industry that knows, cares or complies with the WTD.
Why don’t we just do the same as other countries do, if a rule inconveniences them, it doesn’t apply to them.