I know this is going to be divisive but

toonsy:
Those frilly curtains hide the strong likelihood of a ■■■■■■ predator.

The dream catcher is there to catch the dream of never being caught.

I was at Screwifx in Stoke, parked waiting for a bay. In comes Scania man, V8, blinged, retarder constantly on for acoustic purposes :unamused: and… frilly curtains.

Goods in guy comes out to me and tells me a bay, asks why I’ve not got snazzy curtains like Scania man. I replied that it’s not 1970 anymore and they look ridiculous… he laughed, and agreed.

The 70’s were a great time, i didn’t have frilly curtains but stickers all around the windscreen and little flags , lots of em’, vertical, horizontal and diagonal :smiley: And in winter at least one light up Christmas tree. :smiley: :smiley:

And i have to sadly admit due to my sheltered life i don’t know what it’s like to look through a belly dancers knickers :cry:

Pelmets do my noodle in and I have to remove them (I always put them back.after) and likewise those deep sunvisors people on to Scanias. Drove one once where I had to drive with all the air dumped out of the seat just so I could see a decent view our of the windscreen. Ridiculous thing.

remy:
And i have to sadly admit due to my sheltered life i don’t know what it’s like to look through a belly dancers knickers :cry:

Imagine walking through a gateway on a cold and wet Novembers morning and getting a spiders web in your face. Yep, you now know what it’s like. :smiley:

Always take this crap down and throw it on the bunk. You’ve every justifiable and legal reason to do so.

p.s. is that Booker’s yard at Didcot?

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A long time ago,we nightmen used to load trucks for the day men one of whom had wobbling plastic hands on lolly sticks all around the 4 edges of the windscreen.How he drove with them I have no idea.I used to rip them out and stick them in the glove box.He wasn’t a happy chappy and waited for me to clock on next night.Being big and brusque can help to deflect criticism,though.

That pelmet looks ridiculous, that’s coming from a proud pelmet owner. Each to their own though and as long as you put everything back the way it was all is well.

Dumping it all in a heap on the bunk would make you an utter prick. I’m sure you wouldn’t do that though.

ezydriver:
Always take this crap down and throw it on the bunk. You’ve every justifiable and legal reason to do so.

p.s. is that Booker’s yard at Didcot?

Nope. Prize for first person to get it

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TheUncaringCowboy:
That pelmet looks ridiculous, that’s coming from a proud pelmet owner. Each to their own though and as long as you put everything back the way it was all is well.

Dumping it all in a heap on the bunk would make you an utter prick. I’m sure you wouldn’t do that though.

Would that make me a bigger prick than the one who wants to obscure the windscreen of the vehicle Im expected to drive? Im all for good manners and respect, but is the person leaving a vehicle with an obstructed screen view respecting the next driver, maybe me?
(Im not a total dip-stick, so would spend a bit of time replacing things as I found them. I wouldnt spend hours of my own time at it.)

If the habitual drivers are too lazy to leave a legal vehicle for the next driver, who are they to complain about others?

Yes it’s bleedin dangerous because it’s difficult enough to see the antics of every nutter on the road ahead in time to stop or avoid them even without all that lot getting in the way.

Having got that out of the way more detail required concerning the belly dancer bearing in mind it can’t be the naked bird left in the window because she’s way too thin for it. :smiling_imp: :laughing:

TheUncaringCowboy:
That pelmet looks ridiculous, that’s coming from a proud pelmet owner. Each to their own though and as long as you put everything back the way it was all is well.

Dumping it all in a heap on the bunk would make you an utter prick. I’m sure you wouldn’t do that though.

lol, at a company I worked at 10 years ago, there was a driver who not only used to take everything out of the windscreen and dump it on the bunk, but he’d also take stuff down that wasn’t in the windscreen. I was by his door talking to him once and I saw him rip down a picture of some driver’s kids that was stuck on the overhead locker and lob it on the bunk with every other trinket. I couldn’t help laughing in astonishment.

albion:

P Stoff:
Its like driving looking through a belly dancers knickers!

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I can assure you from personal knowledge, it isn’t :wink: :laughing:

pics or it didn’t happen! :laughing:

Actually second thoughts, please don’t, not sure how I’d explain that one off to the missus. :neutral_face: :blush:

ezydriver:

TheUncaringCowboy:
That pelmet looks ridiculous, that’s coming from a proud pelmet owner. Each to their own though and as long as you put everything back the way it was all is well.

Dumping it all in a heap on the bunk would make you an utter prick. I’m sure you wouldn’t do that though.

lol, at a company I worked at 10 years ago, there was a driver who not only used to take everything out of the windscreen and dump it on the bunk, but he’d also take stuff down that wasn’t in the windscreen. I was by his door talking to him once and I saw him rip down a picture of some driver’s kids that was stuck on the overhead locker and lob it on the bunk with every other trinket. I couldn’t help laughing in astonishment.

If I was the trucks ‘owner’ I wouldn’t have left the pictures in anyway. Would feel weird having some other bloke driving round looking at your personal family photos.

Soon take all that ■■■■ down if he was multi dropping in London lol

Franglais:

TheUncaringCowboy:
That pelmet looks ridiculous, that’s coming from a proud pelmet owner. Each to their own though and as long as you put everything back the way it was all is well.

Dumping it all in a heap on the bunk would make you an utter prick. I’m sure you wouldn’t do that though.

Would that make me a bigger prick than the one who wants to obscure the windscreen of the vehicle Im expected to drive? Im all for good manners and respect, but is the person leaving a vehicle with an obstructed screen view respecting the next driver, maybe me?
(Im not a total dip-stick, so would spend a bit of time replacing things as I found them. I wouldnt spend hours of my own time at it.)

If the habitual drivers are too lazy to leave a legal vehicle for the next driver, who are they to complain about others?

Yes, it would.

Doesn’t matter what you think of the stuff or the legality of it, it all belongs to someone else and leaving things the way you found them is the proper and respectful way to deal with things like this.

Of course take it down if you don’t like it, I would, it’s hideous, but everything would be back exactly as I found it.

Except any hobnobs or Haribo, finders keepers.

Edit: I’m assuming this is a truck used by someone who is in it all the time tramping and you are just doing 1 shift in it. If he’s a day man he needs to get a grip, if you’re in it for one shift and it’s his, it’s beyond rude to not leave it as it was.

TheUncaringCowboy:

Franglais:

TheUncaringCowboy:
That pelmet looks ridiculous, that’s coming from a proud pelmet owner. Each to their own though and as long as you put everything back the way it was all is well.

Dumping it all in a heap on the bunk would make you an utter prick. I’m sure you wouldn’t do that though.

Would that make me a bigger prick than the one who wants to obscure the windscreen of the vehicle Im expected to drive? Im all for good manners and respect, but is the person leaving a vehicle with an obstructed screen view respecting the next driver, maybe me?
(Im not a total dip-stick, so would spend a bit of time replacing things as I found them. I wouldnt spend hours of my own time at it.)

If the habitual drivers are too lazy to leave a legal vehicle for the next driver, who are they to complain about others?

Yes, it would.

Doesn’t matter what you think of the stuff or the legality of it, it all belongs to someone else and leaving things the way you found them is the proper and respectful way to deal with things like this.

Of course take it down if you don’t like it, I would, it’s hideous, but everything would be back exactly as I found it.

Except any hobnobs or Haribo, finders keepers.

Edit: I’m assuming this is a truck used by someone who is in it all the time tramping and you are just doing 1 shift in it. If he’s a day man he needs to get a grip, if you’re in it for one shift and it’s his, it’s beyond rude to not leave it as it was.

I submit that it is beyond rude to give a driver a truck that is made illegal because of another drivers personal stuff, expect that driver to take away the illegal stuff and then to replace it again. Ill do the stuff the habitual driver should do and take the stuff out the window. I`ll try not to damage it in spite of him expecting me to get into a roadworthy condition, because of his failing to do so.

HobNobs? What HobNobs? All I found was an empty wrapper… :blush:


I was given this 17 plate this week after I’d cleaned up the 07 I was originally given when I started here a month ago. It was a bit rough inside, I’ve been tidying it up. I wonder if a tee total driver would object to driving it on the grounds I have Hook Norton brewery bar towels in the cab?

mqhlLieSDeGbJtWcZdUDjdg.jpgI have to agree with Carryfast on this one, a belly dancer needs a belly :smiley:

If one of those guys hits me, photo every angle so insurance can see his vision was impaired, just like using a phone , should be made illegal ( oh i think it is cos its within the sweep of wiper blades). dohh. keep your truck nice an clean but why spend loads of your families money on it.