I have been asked to work at Howdens, Goole

I was recently asked to work for Howdens at another location as they were having industrial issues which is common knowledge and has appeared in print. I have been asked this morning if I wanted to work for Howdens out of Goole, accommodation paid for as it’s out of my normal area. We all know why but apparently it’s news to the mods on this board who regarded my previous post as rumour and so pulled it. Am I stepping on someone’s toes here?

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I refused the work even though I’ve been scratching about recently.

personally i would have taken it - they’re moving regardless so you might as well get some extra time in. just my opinion dmd.

It says they are closing the Widnes depot, why would you be asked to work in Goole ?

On another note, that’s 53 drivers in my area who will be looking for work when there is already very little

Kerbdog:
It says they are closing the Widnes depot, why would you be asked to work in Goole ?

On another note, that’s 53 drivers in my area who will be looking for work when there is already very little

Not sure, I’m guessing it might be to keep some distance between sites/maintain security. Been asked to do nights out there/tramping too. Stabbing another working man in the back ain’t for me though!

the decision has been made striking wont reverse it
its down to the union to get its best deal from DHL
and those drivers who want to work to get a transfer

hitch:
the decision has been made striking wont reverse it
its down to the union to get its best deal from DHL
and those drivers who want to work to get a transfer

No maybe it won’t but it WILL apply pressure to those involved in making the decisions and might result in a better outcome for those affected.

DrivingMissDaisy:

hitch:
the decision has been made striking wont reverse it
its down to the union to get its best deal from DHL
and those drivers who want to work to get a transfer

No maybe it won’t but it WILL apply pressure to those involved in making the decisions and might result in a better outcome for those affected.

i doubt it, we are in an economic downturn, rationalising is what these companies do best, better than running trucks probably.

I dont understand how this howdens guy is being brought into it, if they are dhl drivers? This is solely a dhl problem is it not?? Ive always heard howdens/dhl are extremely well paid jobs. I wouldnt mind getting my foot in the door at howdens/dhl uddingston if the money is as good as ive heard.

merc0447:
I dont understand how this howdens guy is being brought into it, if they are dhl drivers? This is solely a dhl problem is it not?? Ive always heard howdens/dhl are extremely well paid jobs. I wouldnt mind getting my foot in the door at howdens/dhl uddingston if the money is as good as ive heard.

They must have doubled the wage then, as I was offered £16k…a pay cut of £8k of the wage I was on at DHL Dumfries on the Howden contract.

Very lucky lad to survive this incident :open_mouth:

When and where was that?

DrivingMissDaisy:
I was recently asked to work for Howdens at another location as they were having industrial issues which is common knowledge and has appeared in print. I have been asked this morning if I wanted to work for Howdens out of Goole, accommodation paid for as it’s out of my normal area. We all know why but apparently it’s news to the mods on this board who regarded my previous post as rumour and so pulled it. Am I stepping on someone’s toes here?

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I refused the work even though I’ve been scratching about recently.

I’ve done a ton of work out of there from 1992 to 2008. You were daft to refuse it as it pays bloody well and it is a doddle. It has to be one of the easiest most rewarding jobs in the industry. No rushing, everything is done by the rules, well maintained wagons, you’re paid a generous set amount per run which it is unbelievably easy to do the run in but also if you have a legitimate reason for going over (delays, breakdown etc) you get paid that extra and to an extent you’re even free to choose when you go in to start work on most of the runs.

Here’s a bit of background to it…

Originally Howden was Hygena and Widnes was Schreiber - all under the same parent company but separate. The vast majority of the transportation was done by Howden as most of the Schreiber stuff got dragged over to Howden on night trunks and run out of there with mostly stuff going direct to the west country running out Widnes. There was maybe a dozen wagons at most based at Widnes.

It then all became MFI and the same arrangements continued.

Then it went ■■■■ up and became Howdens Joinery. Over the next couple of years the transportation changed and DHL got involved. The day drivers employed by Howdens still did store deliveries but the night trunkers employed by the company and based in Howden, as well as DHL wagons coming in, would take trailers to various DHL depots throughout the country (Avonmouth, Radlett, Dumfries etc as well as Widnes which now was also run by DHL) and DHL day drivers would then do the store deliveries.

For some reason it all went a bit to crap on DHL’s part, partly because these depots started to use Howden’s Joinery’s trailers for their own work which wasn’t agreed, and Howdens Joinery decided to bring it all back in house.

Howdens is proposing to terminate its transport operations at Widnes on 4 February 2013 and relocate to a transport hub in Howden that is not yet in existence.

This is an outright lie. First of all Widnes is DHL drivers, not Howdens Joinery drivers so them leaving would be a consequence of DHL losing the contract. In regards to the Transport Hub, from the time it was Hygena all the way through to the current day there has been one at Howden with over 50 wagons and over 200 trailers on that site. The main traffic office for all three sites is and always has been based at Howden.

Unite should be asking DHL why they thought it was acceptable to risk drivers jobs using a customers trailers for their own work.

Nice bit of howdens history there Conor, the contract at Runcorn was indeed DHL but they was served notice as Howdens said the transport contract was to be moved to Goole. So why are Zenith Logistics now running the Howdens contract out of there yard in Birchwood Warrington, Only 10 miles away from Runcorn on considerably less money than the DHL drivers was on. Another Multi Million pound company driving down drivers wages and not giving a toss about loyalty and service.

mac12:
When and where was that?

Not sure when but the lorry is in Brailsford Derby at the moment. Driver unhurt.

Wheel Nut:

mac12:
When and where was that?

Not sure when but the lorry is in Brailsford Derby at the moment. Driver unhurt.

Unhurt :open_mouth: must have been found curled up on the cab floor then

codge123:
Another Multi Million pound company driving down drivers wages and not giving a toss about loyalty and service.

That is far from how Howdens treats their own drivers - its a dead mans shoes job and even agency drivers stay there years if a job vacancy doesn’t come up.

How one of their sub-contractors chooses to pay their employees is their business.

ThrustMaster:

merc0447:
I dont understand how this howdens guy is being brought into it, if they are dhl drivers? This is solely a dhl problem is it not?? Ive always heard howdens/dhl are extremely well paid jobs. I wouldnt mind getting my foot in the door at howdens/dhl uddingston if the money is as good as ive heard.

They must have doubled the wage then, as I was offered £16k…a pay cut of £8k of the wage I was on at DHL Dumfries on the Howden contract.

When I was there, in 2008 on agency I was on £9.50hr days and 10.50/hr nights during the week with set hours for runs such as 12hrs for doing Avonmouth which you could easily do even including the 45 break and spending 30 minutes at the beginning of the shift doing your paperwork, walkround and load restraint checks, and that was less than their drivers got.

Agency drivers now get £9 for days and £10 for nights, the pay for there own drivers works out at about £12.80 for a 56 hour week. When they shut Runcorn dhl office staff moved into howdens transport office with there own drivers.