delboytwo:
Coffeeholic:
Based on your previous attempts at setting these type of questions it would be so much quicker if you just posted the wrong answer you think is correct and then we can explain where you have gone wrong.

5 Days, Monday to Friday
No split rest
No weekly rest within that period
No double manning
Only one possible answer, 3.
no wrong mate and it in the regs you can do more than three mon to fri
You clearly canāt, given the restrictions you have applied to the question, and given your claim it only works Monday to Friday I have a suspicion on where you are going wrong and if I am correct it is a trap many have fallen foul of in the past. 
Time to post the answer now then Del 
here goes i will explain why you can do more, sorry but i will have to cut and paste a bit 
as we know that this is a reduced rest we can agree on that
āreduced daily rest periodā means any period of rest
of at least nine hours but less than 11 hours;
we no that we can do 3 reduced rests between weekly rests can we agree on that
A driver may have at most three reduced daily rest
periods between any two weekly rest periods.
this is my question
delboytwo:
Hi
how may 15 hour duty days can you do
mon to friday only, without taking a split rest
my answer is 4 why i here you cry with laughter you got it wrong again

so lets look at it
the driver as met all is EU regs and WTD
mon 6am till 9 pm
tues 6 am till 9 pm
wed 6 am till 9 pm
thur 6am till 7 pm
fri 6 am till 9 pm
at 9 pm start a weekly rest of 45 hours or more till you go to work mon at 6 am and as this is a weekly rest and not a daily rest it would not count as one of your daily rests
delboytwo:
fri 6 am till 9 pm
at 9 pm start a weekly rest of 45 hours or more till you go to work mon at 6 am and as this is a weekly rest and not a daily rest it would not count as one of your daily rests
I was correct in knowing where you had gone wrong.
He has used all his 9ās Monday - Wednesday so requires an 11 on Thursday and Friday, meaning he can only work a maximum of 13 hours on those two days. You have him working 15 hours Friday and with his required 11 hour rest that makes Friday 26 hours.

The rule on work and rest fitting into 24 hours applies on the day you begin your weekly rest just as much as on any other day.
You extend a daily rest into a weekly rest, the weekly rest isnāt instead of a daily rest.
Iām getting to know you too well Del, I can even work out your wrong answers in advance now.

OK i thought i would be wrong but reading this
- A daily rest period may be extended to make a regular
weekly rest period or a reduced weekly rest period.
This is the best laugh Iāve had all day
delboytwo:
my answer is 4 why i here you cry with laughter you got it wrong again

Well if itās any comfort to you Del that part was right

delboytwo:
OK i thought i would be wrong but reading this
- A daily rest period may be extended to make a regular
weekly rest period or a reduced weekly rest period.
You are by no means the first to fall foul off that misconception, itās a very, very common mistake and why straight away I knew where you had gone wrong.
just out of curiosity did i get this wrong as well

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=48194#p549016
delboytwo:
just out of curiosity did i get this wrong as well

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=48194#p549016
No, you didnāt get that wrong. 
OK Neil i challenge you to give me a question that you no that i will get wrong 
make a good one as you know i like cutting and pasting

delboytwo:
just out of curiosity did i get this wrong as well

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=48194#p549016
Thatās actually an interesting point (I think
), I assume your referring to the point about completing the weekly rest + the compensation before 24:00 Sunday of week 4.
The regulations require that the compensation be attached to a rest period of no less than 9 hours but it doesnāt say that the compensation has to be attached to the end of a rest period of at least 9 hours.
So could it be that as long as the amount of compensation is completed by 24:00 Sunday of week 4 and immediately before and attached to a rest period of at least 9 hours it would still count ?
Obviously where youāre talking about attaching the compensation to a weekly rest period account would need to be taken of which week the weekly rest should count for, but if a compensation of say 18 hours was completed a couple of minutes before 24:00 Sunday then the weekly rest that followed could count for either week.
So the question is, does compensation have to be attached to the end of a rest period or could it be attached to the start and precede a rest period ?
Hope that makes sense 
tachograph:
delboytwo:
just out of curiosity did i get this wrong as well

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=48194#p549016
Thatās actually an interesting point (I think
), I assume your referring to the point about completing the weekly rest + the compensation before 24:00 Sunday of week 4.
The regulations require that the compensation be attached to a rest period of no less than 9 hours but it doesnāt say that the compensation has to be attached to the end of a rest period of at least 9 hours.
So could it be that as long as the amount of compensation is completed by 24:00 Sunday of week 4 and immediately before and attached to a rest period of at least 9 hours it would still count ?
Obviously where youāre talking about attaching the compensation to a weekly rest period account would need to be taken of which week the weekly rest should count for, but if a compensation of say 18 hours was completed a couple of minutes before 24:00 Sunday then the weekly rest that followed could count for either week.
So the question is, does compensation have to be attached to the end of a rest period or could it be attached to the start and precede a rest period ?
Hope that makes sense 
i think its say en block in the regs so i would think you have to do you rest first and then the companstion
delboytwo:
i think its say en block in the regs so i would think you have to do you rest first and then the companstion
en-bloc in this context only means that the compensation has to paid in one go rather than being split into separate parts 
The more I think about this and read the regulations the less reason I can see why the compensation has to be attached to the end of the rest period, could just be the time of day though 
tachograph:
delboytwo:
i think its say en block in the regs so i would think you have to do you rest first and then the companstion
en-bloc in this context only means that the compensation has to paid in one go rather than being split into separate parts 
The more I think about this and read the regulations the less reason I can see why the compensation has to be attached to the end of the rest period, could just be the time of day though 
what i was going to say was as you have to pay the rest back by the end of the 4 week that in my thinking means end of the 4 week so all the rest as to be done by 24 00 sun