Hypothetical question

only me :smiley: it is up to us as good law abiding chaps :laughing: to inform those freindly peeps at dvla of ones heart problems :neutral_face: if one does not then you will be dead :unamused: if not from the heart attack,but those other eagle eyed gitts(freinds) :wink: vosa or if your involved in any other traffic accident plod,and loads of lawyers,oh and of course the company you work for would know ,because off phone call to recover ones truck :unamused: because your on your way blues and two’s to A&E." one way they will find out be sure of that" its not all bad :sunglasses: believe me, i have been there as some of you know :wink:

Brentanna:
Since this is a hypothetical question I will give you a hypothetical answer. I was at the doctors Friday did the usual taking blood pressure ect. I had blood tests done 2 weeks before, takes 2 weeks to get results. :unamused: I have below normal cholesterol even though I normally eat 4 ex lg eggs on toast for breakfast. I do not eat pork or red meat. I am not a candidate for a heart attack. Now if something happened and I did manage to have one will I tell her (my doctor) I am a professional driver ; yes I would, would I report it ; yes I would. Why because my mom has had 3 heart attacks, you never know when one could possibly happen. No point in taking a chance in killing yourself or someone else. There are alot of people who have had heart attacks and have been cleared after treatment to drive again.

Courtney

Unfortunately the biggest health scares come from the wrong side of the pond, the cholesterol and eggs thing was one. It has since been proven that eggs do no harm and certainly do not raise cholesterol.

However due to you having low cholesterol, maybe giving eggs up may help that.

healthyegg.co.uk/page/cholesterol

And we were designed to eat red meat, fruit, veg and berries in equal amount, from leaving the cave in the morning to dragging an animal carcass home for tea. Things improved once we invented fire and could cook the meat, but give me Steack Tartare everytime :stuck_out_tongue:

Going back to the original post - there are two sides to it.

  1. Whether or not you tell them the truth - false or wrong information is illegal :unamused:
  2. Whether or not you tell them anything :wink:
    If you are not asked is it up to you to volunteer the information? I believe so, but would one’s conscience feel better for not having directly lied?

Personally I would tell them - the possible outcome if you don’t is probably worse if anything happens on the road.

It is a condition of holding your licence that you have to inform DVLA of any medical condition that falls under the statute, a heart condition being one of them. Also under UK law if a medical practioner knows of a vocational licence holder who has a medical condition under the act they have to by law inform DVLA.

In reality DVLA will not know anything if your doctor doesnt know your employment, or that you hold a vocational licenece

Howwver have a bump that involves any serious detective work and kiss goodby to your licence or any chance of it being renewed.

The TC’s attitude will not be wether you are physicaly fit to hold a licence but you have ignored the undertakings you made to obtain the licence- and therefore not worthy to hold one.

It is far less hassle to prove your fitness to drive post heart attack, than to convince the TC you can be trusted to hlold a licence after lying (withholding the truth) to them

Thanks for all your replies to my hypothetical question. :slight_smile:

Rob K:
Thanks for all your replies to my hypothetical question. :slight_smile:

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Rikki-UK:
It is a condition of holding your licence that you have to inform DVLA of any medical condition that falls under the statute, a heart condition being one of them. Also under UK law if a medical practioner knows of a vocational licence holder who has a medical condition under the act they have to by law inform DVLA.

Not actually true, the DVLA have made noises to the General Medical Council about compelling Doctors to spill the beans on drivers with conditions that would suspend or cause a licence to be revoked, but the GMC have resisted such requirements as it would break the Doctor/Patient confidentiality agreement, instead it leaves Doctors to make up their own mind, if your Doc says otherwise he’s telling porkies :neutral_face: .

As for telling the DVLA, its a catch 22 situation. I had a heart attack in 2008 which resulted in the immediate insertion of 2 stents.
My Doctor advised against contacting the DVLA, as in his eyes:

A: Emergency work had been carried out immediately, so the danger of further attacks was minimal.
B: I would not be driving for six weeks, but was warned of the dire consequences should I be caught doing so.
C: The Cardiac Surgeon would be the one to sign me off, and his opinion would be the one that mattered.
D: The DVLA Doctor would accept the surgeons decision, as they rarely disagreed with the opinions of another trained medical person practising in a specialised field .

So if your going to go with the advice from your Doctor, informing the DVLA just so they can suspend or revoke a licence is a rather pointless affair, and just results in an unpleasent illness and experience needlessly dragging on while some tea drinking medical monkeys sat behind desks in Swansea are kept in jobs, while they spin the work out and eventually get to some poor souls re-application thats been sat under a pile of other similar paperwork for several months :imp:

Big Joe:

Rikki-UK:
It is a condition of holding your licence that you have to inform DVLA of any medical condition that falls under the statute, a heart condition being one of them. Also under UK law if a medical practioner knows of a vocational licence holder who has a medical condition under the act they have to by law inform DVLA.

Not actually true, the DVLA have made noises to the General Medical Council about compelling Doctors to spill the beans on drivers with conditions that would suspend or cause a licence to be revoked, but the GMC have resisted such requirements as it would break the Doctor/Patient confidentiality agreement, instead it leaves Doctors to make up their own mind, if your Doc says otherwise he’s telling porkies :neutral_face: .

As for telling the DVLA, its a catch 22 situation. I had a heart attack in 2008 which resulted in the immediate insertion of 2 stents.
My Doctor advised against contacting the DVLA, as in his eyes:

A: Emergency work had been carried out immediately, so the danger of further attacks was minimal.
B: I would not be driving for six weeks, but was warned of the dire consequences should I be caught doing so.
C: The Cardiac Surgeon would be the one to sign me off, and his opinion would be the one that mattered.
D: The DVLA Doctor would accept the surgeons decision, as they rarely disagreed with the opinions of another trained medical person practising in a specialised field .

So if your going to go with the advice from your Doctor, informing the DVLA just so they can suspend or revoke a licence is a rather pointless affair, and just results in an unpleasent illness and experience needlessly dragging on while some tea drinking medical monkeys sat behind desks in Swansea are kept in jobs, while they spin the work out and eventually get to some poor souls re-application thats been sat under a pile of other similar paperwork for several months :imp:

I had medical enquiries done some years ago and I have to say I was not impressed with Swansea’s handling of it. I would be very reluctant to involve them ever again on medical issues, take far too long too resolve things.

schrodingers cat:
9 Km on a treadmill :open_mouth: the thought of that would give me a heart attack!

That figure seems a bit of an exaggeration. I did a test last Monday for a total of 12 minutes. That means that I would have to average 45 KM’s per hour to cover that distance. Taken that the first 3 minutes is taken at a very slow walking pace and only increments in small stages every 3 minutes you’ll be breaking the sprint world record in the last 3 minutes.

say nowt.
don’t grass yourself up.
my doctor is convinced i’m a police officer. how [zb]ing wrong could he be? :laughing:

limeyphil:
say nowt.
don’t grass yourself up.
my doctor is convinced i’m a police officer. how [zb]ing wrong could he be? :laughing:

That is probably because he has seen you in so many police cars :laughing:

i think it depends on whether you work for yourself or a company? but i dont think it would be wise to drive if you are unwell :astonished: that would be crazy :unamused: as for being honest i think you do have a legal obligation to inform the dvla :cry: :confused: