Hungarian snowstorm;this is the future for Britain too?

the council in this area started using contractors again a few years ago, (see other post)
as i sit here tonite a quarry loading shovel is working on the 515 along side various jcb’s, tractors and other equpt

Moose:
the council in this area started using contractors again a few years ago, (see other post)
as i sit here tonite a quarry loading shovel is working on the 515 along side various jcb’s, tractors and other equpt

Sorry Moose hadn’t read your previous post.Glad to see some of the councils are pulling their finger out.There is plenty of plant around for them to hire.We shouldn’t be in this situation in this day and age.

the only problem is when the said contractors start hanging the job out and taking the ■■■■
many of the diggers belong to farmers who are trying to clear a way through for milk tankers

20 years ago snow fences were common to prevent drifts from encroaching onto the roads. We seem to have forgotten how we used to cope with winter.

orys:
Just found that interesting article, sadly is in Polish:
metromsn.gazeta.pl/Wydarzenia/1, … _.html#Cuk

They write there, that spring is becoming shorter due to climate changes and that late winter attacks will be more common occurence in the future. Polish Science Academy climatic station on Spitzbergen observed that in 70s the peak of the cold was on the December/January period, in 80s, the lowest temperatures were observed in January, in 90s in February, in 00s in March and snow its at the break of March and April. It is caused by melting the ice caps - the released water vapours to the atmosphere and in complicated chain of events creates that late winter attacks. In pessimistic prognoses by 2030 we will completely loose the spring, there will be late winters as far as to April (last time in Poland there was very harsh snowstorm in early days of May!) then instantly hot summer and then long, long autumn that would gradually become winter.

The climatologist from Polish meteorological office says that three years ago the spring lasted three days and it was enough for the average 24h temperature to rise from -1,4 to 11 degree…

The Polish ‘science’ base is now all part of the great euro global warming believer scam and there’s no way that Poland’s government will want to upset and bite the hand that feeds it.What we’re ‘actually’ seeing is colder temperatures for a longer period of the year at any time from October through to March throughout the northern hemisphere.Which seems to fit the idea of global cooling for the combination of reasons given below more than warming. :unamused:

anhonestclimatedebate.wordpress. … n-ice-age/

dailymail.co.uk/news/article … w-ice.html

ncdc.noaa.gov/special-report … eason.html

There may be global warming somewhere but i get the feeling that it’s passed by here.We started the winter in October and i’ve just looked outside and its min 22c so it aint finished yet by a long way.Mike

Carryfast:
The Polish ‘science’ base is now all part of the great euro global warming believer scam and there’s no way that Poland’s government will want to upset and bite the hand that feeds it.What we’re ‘actually’ seeing is colder temperatures for a longer period of the year at any time from October through to March throughout the northern hemisphere.Which seems to fit the idea of global cooling for the combination of reasons given below more than warming. :unamused:

anhonestclimatedebate.wordpress. … n-ice-age/

dailymail.co.uk/news/article … w-ice.html

Yeah, Polish Science Academy is for sure no match some blog set up on the agenda and Daily Mail :unamused:

But on a more serious note, you missed the point completely, as usual :slight_smile: And thanks for the picture from Daily Mail that actually confirms what that Polish sciencist told in my article: the ice caps melted, so they go to the atmosphere and thats where rain and snow come from.

(Saying that I too do not believe that we have as much influence on the climate as we would like to think, and I think it is mostly normal natural way of how things are).

hutpik:
There may be global warming somewhere but i get the feeling that it’s passed by here.We started the winter in October and i’ve just looked outside and its min 22c so it aint finished yet by a long way.Mike

Which may explain why the north east/east wind blowing here is so zb cold compared to what we’d expect at this time of year even though it does originate in Scandinavia or Russia.Global Warming is just a scam.

orys:

Carryfast:
The Polish ‘science’ base is now all part of the great euro global warming believer scam and there’s no way that Poland’s government will want to upset and bite the hand that feeds it.What we’re ‘actually’ seeing is colder temperatures for a longer period of the year at any time from October through to March throughout the northern hemisphere.Which seems to fit the idea of global cooling for the combination of reasons given below more than warming. :unamused:

anhonestclimatedebate.wordpress. … n-ice-age/

dailymail.co.uk/news/article … w-ice.html

Yeah, Polish Science Academy is for sure no match some blog set up on the agenda and Daily Mail :unamused:

But on a more serious note, you missed the point completely, as usual :slight_smile: And thanks for the picture from Daily Mail that actually confirms what that Polish sciencist told in my article: the ice caps melted, so they go to the atmosphere and thats where rain and snow come from.

(Saying that I too do not believe that we have as much influence on the climate as we would like to think, and I think it is mostly normal natural way of how things are).

The idea of global warming is just a scam and those posts weren’t related to just a blog at all they were all scientifically based.The ice caps haven’t melted at all the Antarctic ice sheet doesn’t break up anyway while the Arctic one always breaks up during the Arctic Spring and Summer,which is what sank the Titanic in 1912,and it re freezes during the Arctic Winter.The fact is for snow and ice you need cold air temperatures which doesn’t fit the script of so called ‘global warming’ in which we were ‘originally’ told by tossers like Carl Sagan that the climate would be warmer everywhere at all times of the year eventually leading to the Venus scenario.Especially when there are examples such as - 15 temperatures being recorded in recent years in places as far South as Mexico in February. :unamused:

And I am sure you can also provide scientific evidence for that scam that Americans were allegedly on the Moon? :slight_smile: Or that Polish presidential plane in Smoleńsk was shot down by Russians who hated him because he was the bigges European hero ever? :smiley: :smiley:

Oh and don’t forget there’s no global warming anymore, it’s now climate change because the temperatures are dropping.
SCAM
There will always be climate change, it’s called the weather!
Same as CO2 can’t cause global warming as it’s heavier than air and is used as a tax tool.

Pete the post:
Oh and don’t forget there’s no global warming anymore, it’s now climate change because the temperatures are dropping.
SCAM
Same as CO2 can’t cause global warming as it’s heavier than air and is used as a tax tool.

^ This.

slayingtheskydragon.com/de/b … al-warming

The fact is physics says that the amount of CO2 that makes up Earth’s atmosphere can’t produce a greenhouse effect because it doesn’t form a large proportion or a uniform fixed mixture throughout the atmosphere.

Unlike on planet Venus where the whole bs theory originated in which the make up of the atmosphere is totally different in addition to being millions of miles closer to the sun. :bulb:

and how many cars and vans has our orys smashed up :smiley:
the stupid pillocls posted pictures of most of them on here :smiley:
cant be bothered looking for them tho :smiley:

green456:
and how many cars and vans has our orys smashed up :smiley:

Oh, lack of arguments, so you go personal? Ok, let see, if I am worse or better than average UK driver…

So how many cars I smashed?

None.

So at least how many times I lost control on the snowy/icy road in winter and damaged my vehicle?

Two times in my life. Once when the ASR system that I thought is switched out turned itself on and guided me back into straight line (and unfortunately road was turning right). My fault, I should read the instruction beforehand to learn that even if I switch it off, it still can take over driving from me. Congratulations, Mercedes engineers. Anyway, after the van was put back on the road, it was only scratched and a bit of bumper broke off, so it was perfectly OK for me to go further few hundreds of kms north through wintery Norway to do my collection and then go back to UK via Denmark with snow almost all the way trough.

Once when I skided on ice when trying to avoid someone who cut in front of me. Car ended on the tow truck due to suspension damage - I hit the kerb.

As you can see, unlike some other members of this forum, I don’t think it is any harm to my pride, so I have no problems with posting pictures on the internet. We are all humans, and we all do mistakes. And we learn from our mistakes. And if someone else can learn from my mistakes - it’s even better.

I skidded few times more in my life, or had some situation caused, for example, by the kids on the sledge suddenly entering the road right in front of me, but apart from two cases above I always managed to re-catch grip, or at least to stay on the road while spinning (had that experience twice as well, it was even fun when you look back :slight_smile: )

After all, my record is still not as bad, if we consider how many miles I have done on the snow, mostly in RWD vehicles that, according to popular belief in UK, are unsuitable for winter. For example I was owner of one of these:

for four winters, always had just all season tires in the country with much more snow than UK, no ABS, no PAS, not even a radio (there was no point, it was so noisy banger :stuck_out_tongue:), I was regularly visiting my brother who used live over 800 metres above the sea level in the mountains back there. Only once I had to ask some passers-bye to sit on my boot to give me extra grip for last few hundred metres…

I learned to drive a car in winter (on RWD FSO Polonez with no ABS) and only two hours of my 20 lessons were NOT having place on the snow. Since there i was driving in winter in Scandinavia, Switzerland, Austria and other countries of mainland Europe. Untill recently I was going to Poland for Christmas by car every year. I have no idea how many miles I did on snow, but there is quite a few thousands, considering that I drive casually or full time for the living over 10 years now and half of this time was in Poland when snow is perfectly normal occurence. And during all these times, apart from two cases mentioned above, I never hit anything and I never get stuck so hopelessly that I could not get out on my own. And 40 mph on the snow is perfectly normal speed for me.

Now, how are your winter experiences? :slight_smile:

Up untill the mid 60’s Britain always had bad winters, then they seemed to vanish, no it seems you have them back … get used to them for a few years.

Pat Hasler:
Up untill the mid 60’s Britain always had bad winters, then they seemed to vanish,.

Not exactly as I remember it.

weatheronline.co.uk/reports/ … entury.htm

weatheronline.co.uk/reports/ … d-snow.htm

Nice picture of the red Sprinter in the winter scene with all the snow and trees Orys, better than the other red and white one on your avatar. How come on both of these pics you have gone off the road if you are such a good driver in adverse weather conditions?
Just wondering …

Hi all.Raymundo,if you read the posts you can see it’s not his fault.It’s bad vans,tyres,manufacturers,other people.idiots with sleds ‘in winter for gods sake’,lazy councils etc.Mike :unamused:

hutpik:
Hi all.Raymundo,if you read the posts you can see it’s not his fault.It’s bad vans,tyres,manufacturers,other people.idiots with sleds ‘in winter for gods sake’,lazy councils etc.Mike :unamused:

I don’t blame him on the Merc. It has one of the worst ASR systems developed to the world. It’s just plain right dangerous in the winer situations you would take like yeah what the MB thinks it’s time to have a crash or just go straight. Worst thing it’s no way to turn it of.

BTW, no way it was -22 yesterday, to the night in Abisko and the gauge said -10c :slight_smile:

Don’t compare Abisko with other parts of Norrbotten,as you should be aware there are quite large temperature variations over the whole of Norrbotten both daytime and at nights.Here in KattÃ¥n i can have a 10 to 15 degree difference between here and Gällivare which is only 90kms and it’s not necessarily colder as you go north as you are well aware with your experience.If i say it was -22c here then it was,this is not a ■■■■ measuring contest to see who is coldest.Mike