Bking:
Sounds about right.If the postman banged on your door when delivering a letter and asked to use your kettle what would you say?
He is doing a delivery as well.
Why the hell should a delivery point supply you with anything.
Very nice if they do but you know that before very long some [zb] will abuse it and spoil it for every body else.
Because a residence is excluded if you read through the regulations 1992
And what if he is delivering to a garage or an office?
Bking:
Sounds about right.If the postman banged on your door when delivering a letter and asked to use your kettle what would you say?
He is doing a delivery as well.
Why the hell should a delivery point supply you with anything.
Very nice if they do but you know that before very long some [zb] will abuse it and spoil it for every body else.
How many private households receiving mail from a postman make him park his car, van or bike out by the front gate, have him sit in a waiting room, in this case a chair in your hall way and perhaps accept the letter he’s trying to give you after 4 or 6 hours?!
As a truck driver delivering, you are not banging on someones door randomly asking to use anything, you’re there for as long as they decide it takes to load or unload you, totally out of the control of the driver. Hardly the same thing as a postman is it.
I really do think though, that if the postman did knock on most people’s doors with your letters or small packages and then asked to use your toilet, that the vast majority of people would welcome him or her inside immediately. What kind of sadistic pervert thinks its okay to keep someone in a place and withhold toilet facilities, perhaps interrogators in the Soviet Union but that sort of thing has no place in any civilised country. It begs belief that this is even happening, and needs to be discussed in the first place.
Sounds like the HSE don’t want to rock any boats but ultimately someone is responsible for providing the facilities either the employer or the businesses shipping and receiving the goods.
Mobile workers, like railway maintenance guys, usually have a van with facilities in and other site workers can promptly demand a portaloo is plonked there.
If people are spending time effectively working at premises I do not see how, certainly in the case of commercial premises, they do not have a responsibility to comply with the shops and factory act etc.
There is a a point about abusing it as lockers at the missus work got rifled through by someone they let use the loo.
Companies to whom a delivery driver visits during the course of their work are not obliged under the Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974 to allow them to use their facilities. This is because they are not the driver’s employer and would not therefore have a duty of care for them under that Act or its associated regulations.
If they have no duty of care, can you tell them to stick their “Hi_Viz, No shorts, must wear a pink Tutu (made that one up) on our site”, where the sun does not shine…
I think not, even the HSE can talk bollox
Staff at the HSE are just as likely, if not more so, to not like doing any work or unnecessary aggro if they can avoid it.
If ever I get to a place that refuse me a toilet then I would simply ■■■■ at the side of a wall or similar When I’ve threatened this in the past I’ve always been shown to a ‘suitable’ one
Bking:
Sounds about right.If the postman banged on your door when delivering a letter and asked to use your kettle what would you say?
He is doing a delivery as well.
Why the hell should a delivery point supply you with anything.
Very nice if they do but you know that before very long some [zb] will abuse it and spoil it for every body else.
How many private households receiving mail from a postman make him park his car, van or bike out by the front gate, have him sit in a waiting room, in this case a chair in your hall way and perhaps accept the letter he’s trying to give you after 4 or 6 hours?!
As a truck driver delivering, you are not banging on someones door randomly asking to use anything, you’re there for as long as they decide it takes to load or unload you, totally out of the control of the driver. Hardly the same thing as a postman is it.
I really do think though, that if the postman did knock on most people’s doors with your letters or small packages and then asked to use your toilet, that the vast majority of people would welcome him or her inside immediately. What kind of sadistic pervert thinks its okay to keep someone in a place and withhold toilet facilities, perhaps interrogators in the Soviet Union but that sort of thing has no place in any civilised country. It begs belief that this is even happening, and needs to be discussed in the first place.
Oh you poor darling .How you do suffer sweet heart.
Grow some balls or get out the job.
Sick of hearing whining ■■■■■■■ telling me how hard done to they are.
Go sit behind a bloody desk thats about your limit.
If you employ anyone (however short the period) you must ‘so far as is reasonably
practicable’, provide adequate and appropriate welfare facilities for them while they
are at work. This means you must provide such facilities unless it is clearly
unreasonable in terms of time, trouble, cost and physical difficulty.
‘Welfare facilities’ are those that are necessary for the well-being of your
employees, such as washing, toilet, rest and changing facilities, and somewhere
clean to eat and drink during breaks.
That term includes visiting persons as you are deemed as a temp /short term employee be means of the contract to deliver of collect goods or services …
Bking:
Oh you poor darling .How you do suffer sweet heart.
Grow some balls or get out the job.
Sick of hearing whining ■■■■■■■ telling me how hard done to they are.
Go sit behind a bloody desk thats about your limit.
I love how you totally avoid responding to anything I’ve written. You’re either a politician or 8 years old. Which is it?
Bking:
Oh you poor darling .How you do suffer sweet heart.
Grow some balls or get out the job.
Sick of hearing whining ■■■■■■■ telling me how hard done to they are.
Go sit behind a bloody desk thats about your limit.
I love how you totally avoid responding to anything I’ve written. You’re either a politician or 8 years old. Which is it?
I respond to people who do not believe that they somehow are one of the “chosen” few.
There are a lot of people in this world who have to work hard for a living
I am not one of them and what may come as a great shock,neither are you
And what really ■■■■■■ me is some jerk like yourself moaning about your “rights” to things that in reality you have no claim too, yet other folk on this planet are denied a decent living wage,freedom,an ability to feed their children or the right to peace and I do not mean just the poor folk in Asia or Africa I also mean our neighbours.
And yet people like you do not let these millions of people cross your mind while you ■■■■■ about not being able to get a cup of coffee or go for a wee.
There but for the grace of god go all of us.So stop ■■■■■ bleating and get on with it for christ sake.
Bking:
I respond to people who do not believe that they somehow are one of the “chosen” few.
There are a lot of people in this world who have to work hard for a living
I am not one of them and what may come as a great shock,neither are you
And what really ■■■■■■ me is some jerk like yourself moaning about your “rights” to things that in reality you have no claim too, yet other folk on this planet are denied a decent living wage,freedom,an ability to feed their children or the right to peace and I do not mean just the poor folk in Asia or Africa I also mean our neighbours.
And yet people like you do not let these millions of people cross your mind while you ■■■■■ about not being able to get a cup of coffee or go for a wee.
There but for the grace of god go all of us.So stop [zb] bleating and get on with it for christ sake.
I’m really not bothered about what ■■■■■■ you off because you seem like a total idiot. Telling people to “Get on with it” and “Grow a set” but then maintain that if they’re on a customers premises for x amount of hours that they shouldn’t be allowed to use the toilet is the complete opposite. What kind of feeble wimp just sits somewhere for 6 hours because they’ve been told they can’t go to the toilet? Are you for real? are you actually serious about telling me to grow a pair and then in the same breath saying I shouldn’t be able to use the toilet?
The human body needs to be relieved of waste every so often, it doesn’t request it, it doesn’t just stop processing food and liquid if some moron like you acts the little Hitler and gets off on the power trip. Its not a right, its a fact of life. If you think that I consider myself one of the “chosen few” for insisting on being allowed to use toilet facilities then that says a lot about you as a person and as a consequence I’ll take all of your intended insults as compliments. Now go and take your face for a ■■■, if you’re allowed to use the toilet. Bloody cretin.
Bking:
I respond to people who do not believe that they somehow are one of the “chosen” few.
There are a lot of people in this world who have to work hard for a living
I am not one of them and what may come as a great shock,neither are you
And what really ■■■■■■ me is some jerk like yourself moaning about your “rights” to things that in reality you have no claim too, yet other folk on this planet are denied a decent living wage,freedom,an ability to feed their children or the right to peace and I do not mean just the poor folk in Asia or Africa I also mean our neighbours.
And yet people like you do not let these millions of people cross your mind while you ■■■■■ about not being able to get a cup of coffee or go for a wee.
There but for the grace of god go all of us.So stop [zb] bleating and get on with it for christ sake.
I’m really not bothered about what ■■■■■■ you off because you seem like a total idiot. Telling people to “Get on with it” and “Grow a set” but then maintain that if they’re on a customers premises for x amount of hours that they shouldn’t be allowed to use the toilet is the complete opposite. What kind of feeble wimp just sits somewhere for 6 hours because they’ve been told they can’t go to the toilet? Are you for real? are you actually serious about telling me to grow a pair and then in the same breath saying I shouldn’t be able to use the toilet?
The human body needs to be relieved of waste every so often, it doesn’t request it, it doesn’t just stop processing food and liquid if some moron like you acts the little Hitler and gets off on the power trip. Its not a right, its a fact of life. If you think that I consider myself one of the “chosen few” for insisting on being allowed to use toilet facilities then that says a lot about you as a person and as a consequence I’ll take all of your intended insults as compliments. Now go and take your face for a ■■■, if you’re allowed to use the toilet. Bloody cretin.
So ■■■■ up the trailer wheel and stop whining you tart.FFs.
Bking:
I respond to people who do not believe that they somehow are one of the “chosen” few.
There are a lot of people in this world who have to work hard for a living
I am not one of them and what may come as a great shock,neither are you
And what really ■■■■■■ me is some jerk like yourself moaning about your “rights” to things that in reality you have no claim too, yet other folk on this planet are denied a decent living wage,freedom,an ability to feed their children or the right to peace and I do not mean just the poor folk in Asia or Africa I also mean our neighbours.
And yet people like you do not let these millions of people cross your mind while you ■■■■■ about not being able to get a cup of coffee or go for a wee.
There but for the grace of god go all of us.So stop [zb] bleating and get on with it for christ sake.
I’m really not bothered about what ■■■■■■ you off because you seem like a total idiot. Telling people to “Get on with it” and “Grow a set” but then maintain that if they’re on a customers premises for x amount of hours that they shouldn’t be allowed to use the toilet is the complete opposite. What kind of feeble wimp just sits somewhere for 6 hours because they’ve been told they can’t go to the toilet? Are you for real? are you actually serious about telling me to grow a pair and then in the same breath saying I shouldn’t be able to use the toilet?
The human body needs to be relieved of waste every so often, it doesn’t request it, it doesn’t just stop processing food and liquid if some moron like you acts the little Hitler and gets off on the power trip. Its not a right, its a fact of life. If you think that I consider myself one of the “chosen few” for insisting on being allowed to use toilet facilities then that says a lot about you as a person and as a consequence I’ll take all of your intended insults as compliments. Now go and take your face for a ■■■, if you’re allowed to use the toilet. Bloody cretin.
Don’t get upset with bollix brain king, he’s just being his usual repugnant, ignorant, arrogant self. I’ve never come across the problem myself, but I’d probably drop the trailer on the bay and pull out to find a bog.
Bking:
Sounds about right.If the postman banged on your door when delivering a letter and asked to use your kettle what would you say?
He is doing a delivery as well.
Why the hell should a delivery point supply you with anything.
Very nice if they do but you know that before very long some [zb] will abuse it and spoil it for every body else.
The postman asking to use your toilet is a poor example. The postman completes his delivery in seconds and is then able to move on straight away. How many of these H&S mad “you can’t use our toilets” places have you in & out quickly?
Anywhere that expects drivers to sit around waiting for lengthy periods, trapped on their premises often with their keys confiscated, should have to allow you access to their toilets. If they don’t want us using their toilets, then get us tipped and out of there in a timely manner - as it should be!
damoq:
Never been refused use of toilets before. You ask kindly, you should never have a problem. But if it ever did happen, and I was on the verge of peeing my pants, I wouldn’t hesitate to ■■■■ up against their wall.
I was refused, the use of a toilet once,when I wanted a wazz, I was smartly dressed, polite, but was still told I couldn’t use their toilet, when I asked where I was supposed to go, they said not our problem. … So my reply was ok, and I made my way towards the new Mercedes parked in the office car park, I was just about to get the old lad out, when he came running over,and asked what I was doing, my reply was, treat me like a dog, I will behave like one, needless to say, he let me use their toilet.
peterm:
Don’t get upset with bollix brain king, he’s just being his usual repugnant, ignorant, arrogant self. I’ve never come across the problem myself, but I’d probably drop the trailer on the bay and pull out to find a bog.
Yeah you’re right. No point in feeding the troll and all that.
I’ve never come across the problem this side of the pond and only once in the UK and even then they let me use it when I pushed the issue.
peterm:
Don’t get upset with bollix brain king, he’s just being his usual repugnant, ignorant, arrogant self. I’ve never come across the problem myself, but I’d probably drop the trailer on the bay and pull out to find a bog.
Yeah you’re right. No point in feeding the troll and all that.
I’ve never come across the problem this side of the pond and only once in the UK and even then they let me use it when I pushed the issue.
Time to name and shame Deli choice in Croydon refuse to let you use their toilet, outside of their premises is a large tree in front of their office windows great place to pish while waving at the office wallers, as has been said before treat a person like an animal and he will adjust his behaviour to suit
When I’ve threatened this in the past I’ve always been shown to a ‘suitable’ one 
… So my reply was ok, and I made my way towards the new Mercedes parked in the office car park, I was just about to get the old lad out, when he came running over,and asked what I was doing, my reply was, treat me like a dog, I will behave like one, needless to say, he let me use their toilet.