Hi all,
I’m looking at applying for Hoyer in Hamble (Hampshire) and just wanted a bit of Info if anyone has any, or can send me in the right direction.
I’m after the 7 week rota shift pattern if possible and what people generally take home a month.
I haven’t got my adr so I’ll be doing there training scheme and staying for the 3 years minimum.
Sorry if this has been covered before but I couldn’t find any info on it.
Thanks!
Sorry but no inside info here.
Just to say that you are doing the right thing by asking for info from all sources.
Signing up for 3 years! is a big step.
Prepare a written list of questions before your interview, you will forget probably forget them when there. Tick off what is covered at interview but ask the rest. Find out how much the penalty is if you do leave before 3 years.
Good luck.
Some folk joke that Hoyer is an acronym: Hand Over Your Employment Rights 
A three year tie-in to do a week long course that (here in the North) will cost you less than £500 ? Doesn’t seem like a good deal to me, you’re paying your debt down at a rate of 45p per day
3 year tie in is ridiculous, presumably thats to cover your general tanker training costs too? which is something other companies provide as part of costs of recruiting the right people and don’t make you sign up for, maybe the terms and conditions elsewhere are good enough that no one in their right mind would leave anyway, which begs the question why this lot require a 3 year agreement when others don’t.
Plenty of tank companies willing to put you through your ADR in order to recruit you. I have never driven a tank before and secured a job with the company putting me through their training program including ADR. As it happens I loved the job and would haqppily have stayed with them BUT I have recently gone back to the Docks in Hull as a Terberg driver again, same money better terms and home each night. Tanker company never took a penny from me for the training. 3 years tie in is not a good move.
I got this in email from totaljobs as I’m on there mailing list.
Sounds pretty decent to me
Be very wary mate, three years is a bloody long time to be tied to them to find you don’t like them, the job or their shifts.
All I will say is that a lad I knew who was a very experienced tanker driver on gases and he went on to Hoyer. They told him he would be working out of Fawley. He had all the qualifications just needed to get his petroleum passport. He spent two weeks out with a trainer then as soon as he was on his own they pushed him off to Hamble.
Shift plans ended up to be different than what they told him at interview as well. When he wanted to now why he was not working out of Fawley like he was supposed to be, which suited him better for where he lived and why were the shifts different he basically got told… "You’ll go where you’re needed and do what shifts we want when we want. If that’s going to be a problem then you know where the door is. He told them what they could do with their job.
There are two fairly big problems with Hoyer, which help explain why they are the only fuel company who will consider drivers with no previous experience of ADR or tanker work.
The first is pay, they pay several pounds an hour less than other similar companies, whilst also guaranteeing less hours (I interviewed with them a few years ago, they were offering £15.50 at the time, but only 30 hours per week, making an annual salary of £27k, although the hourly pay may have increased by now)
The second issue is the shift pattern. They do a 7 week rolling rota. I can’t remember it completely, but it was something like:- 3 days, 2 off, 4 nights, 3 off 2 days, 2 off, 5 nights, 4 off, 3 days, 3 off, 3 nights, etc. So you were constantly mixing between day and night working, which will leave you feeling tired both mentally and physically, which is not a good state to be in for this type of work.
Then there is the training costs. You can leave within the 3 years, but it’s written into your contract that you must pay back any training costs, £2,000 if you leave in the first 12 months, £1,000 if you leave between 12-24 months and £500 if you leave between 24-36 months.
Fuel work is good to get into, but there are better ways to do it. Get your ADR and get some tanker experience, then look at companies like Reynolds, Certas, Suttons or Stobarts as they will all take on unqualified drivers to put through their PDP, whilst all having better shift patterns, rates of pay and not having the crappy terms about paying back training costs
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Terry Cooksey:
There are two fairly big problems with Hoyer, which help explain why they are the only fuel company who will consider drivers with no previous experience of ADR or tanker work……Fuel work is good to get into, but there are better ways to do it. Get your ADR and get some tanker experience, then look at companies like Reynolds, Certas, Suttons or Stobarts as they will all take on unqualified drivers to put through their PDP, whilst all having better shift patterns, rates of pay and not having the crappy terms about paying back training costs
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Not here to support Hoyer, though I have done seasonal work for them previously, but how do you reconcile these two statements?
LazyDriver:
Terry Cooksey:
There are two fairly big problems with Hoyer, which help explain why they are the only fuel company who will consider drivers with no previous experience of ADR or tanker work……Fuel work is good to get into, but there are better ways to do it. Get your ADR and get some tanker experience, then look at companies like Reynolds, Certas, Suttons or Stobarts as they will all take on unqualified drivers to put through their PDP, whilst all having better shift patterns, rates of pay and not having the crappy terms about paying back training costs
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Not here to support Hoyer, though I have done seasonal work for them previously, but how do you reconcile these two statements?
All of these companies will take a driver who has no PDP and put them through the training and tests necessary.
However, only Hoyer will take drivers who have no ADR qualification or any experience of driving tankers and provide training for those. All the other companies would expect you to already be ADR qualified and have experience of working with tankers, carrying out safe loading/unloading etc.
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Cj-1989:
Hi all,I’m looking at applying for Hoyer in Hamble (Hampshire) and just wanted a bit of Info if anyone has any, or can send me in the right direction.
Sorry if this has been covered before but I couldn’t find any info on it.
Thanks!
J7 M27 towards Hamble
Terry Cooksey:
the shift pattern. They do a 7 week rolling rota. I can’t remember it completely, but it was something like:- 3 days, 2 off, 4 nights, 3 off 2 days, 2 off, 5 nights, 4 off, 3 days, 3 off, 3 nights
Generally referred to as the “marriage wrecker” I believe
Zac_A:
Terry Cooksey:
the shift pattern. They do a 7 week rolling rota. I can’t remember it completely, but it was something like:- 3 days, 2 off, 4 nights, 3 off 2 days, 2 off, 5 nights, 4 off, 3 days, 3 off, 3 nightsGenerally referred to as the “marriage wrecker” I believe
Should be able to spot one of the lads on that shift pattern, eyes like the proverbial ■■■■ holes in the snow.
Juddian:
Zac_A:
Terry Cooksey:
the shift pattern. They do a 7 week rolling rota. I can’t remember it completely, but it was something like:- 3 days, 2 off, 4 nights, 3 off 2 days, 2 off, 5 nights, 4 off, 3 days, 3 off, 3 nightsGenerally referred to as the “marriage wrecker” I believe
Should be able to spot one of the lads on that shift pattern, eyes like the proverbial ■■■■ holes in the snow.
I spent 10 years or so working a rotating 4-week cycle:
7 nights then 2 off,
2 lates, 3 earlies, 2 lates, 2 off,
3 lates, 4 earlies, 3 off
Rinse and repeat. Fortunately 8 hour shifts though, although during the football season we’d have the delight of doing 5 nights Mon-Fri (finishing 6am Sat), off for six hours then back in at noon for football duty, finish about 5pm then back in for a night shift 5 hours later. Needless to say most blokes were totally shattered by 6 o’clock Monday morning and little wonder so many of my ex-colleagues don’t get to State Pension age.
It was something of a Hallelujah moment when the bosses agreed to let us do a 4-on, 4-off 12 hour shift pattern (withdrawn a couple of years later as it didn’t give management the flexibility they required).
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