been asking about for rates as owner driver info on rates etc how do you make it pay at £1.17per mile all miles and trailer hire of £50 per week am not afraid of hard work and don’t expect to make a million but is this the average for traction work fear my dreams of owner driver well and truly smashed 20trs employed always want to go it alone and don’t expect to start with a 730 but don’t think I could make it pay with a 370
i wont work for p/per mile, all my jobs are rated and paid one way, but i,m always loaded both ways, i usually do about 450kms a day for £520, i dont know how anyone can make it pay at those mileage rates you qouted
no its got my stumped at the best was thinkin about a new Renault premium last of old shape advertised at £320 per week maintained tyres and tax but that was at the top end of my plans no repair bills and a warrenty but not at that rate and this is with a large national company
They are looking for mugs.
Are you a mug?
At 117 a mile you can’t!
neverhome73:
no its got my stumped at the best was thinkin about a new Renault premium last of old shape advertised at £320 per week maintained tyres and tax but that was at the top end of my plans no repair bills and a warrenty but not at that rate and this is with a large national company
What area of the country are you in?
The going rate is around £1.35 a mile now for traction from the uk ports some pay a little bit more some pay a little less
Hope that helps
I get more per mile for a Luton van
alix776:
I get more per mile for a Luton van
Aye, but truck geezers gotta be truck geezers ain’t it?
bazstan009:
At 117 a mile you can’t!
Oh yes you can!!
Night trunk, light loads, 400mile round trip 5 nights a week 10mpg.
Running costs £0.52/mile…£1040/week
Standing cost…£600/week
Total costs…£1640
Income 2000m @ £1.17…£2340
Profit…£700
Unlikely scenario and maybe £700 is not considered worth the effort but is still a profit, and those costs are achievable.
Hmmmm, is there a que?
bazstan009:
Hmmmm, is there a que?
So using that scenario and costings what would be an acceptable turnover?..
matamoros:
bazstan009:
Hmmmm, is there a que?So using that scenario and costings what would be an acceptable turnover?..
I was being flippant
But as for being acceptable, one mans view is a mile off another mans view.
bazstan009:
matamoros:
bazstan009:
Hmmmm, is there a que?So using that scenario and costings what would be an acceptable turnover?..
I was being flippant
But as for being acceptable, one mans view is a mile off another mans view.
Totally agree with you there but it would be interesting to see what others think would be acceptable for such a job…not that one is ever likely to materialise.
I think it’s a fair point that one OO could run for a lower rate per mile than another if he was pulling lighter loads, running on Belgian diesel etc.
matamoros:
bazstan009:
At 117 a mile you can’t!Oh yes you can!!
Night trunk, light loads, 400mile round trip 5 nights a week 10mpg.
Running costs £0.52/mile…£1040/week
Standing cost…£600/week
Total costs…£1640
Income 2000m @ £1.17…£2340
Profit…£700
Unlikely scenario and maybe £700 is not considered worth the effort but is still a profit, and those costs are achievable.
The problem with this sort of scenario is its easy to be a bizzy fool so yr doing 400 mile a night so lets just say u avg 50 mph for every single mile and had no traffic etc that’s 8 hours drivin straight off then let’s say 4 hours other work tipping loading etc plus that ■■■■■■ in the wood pile a 45 min tacho break so lets just say for arguments sake it’s a 12 n half hour nite shift then thro into it Ud be giving up either a sun nite or a fri night to get yr 5 shifts in you’ve only got 700 quid left to play with I’d say that’s no where near enuff to pay yourself a wage out of when taking into acount tax nat ins holidays downtime etc
If I was doing that run I’d want to see at least 650 in my pocket once tax etc has been accounted for
matamoros:
bazstan009:
At 117 a mile you can’t!Oh yes you can!!
Night trunk, light loads, 400mile round trip 5 nights a week 10mpg.
Running costs £0.52/mile…£1040/week
Standing cost…£600/week
Total costs…£1640
Income 2000m @ £1.17…£2340
Profit…£700
Unlikely scenario and maybe £700 is not considered worth the effort but is still a profit, and those costs are achievable.
And wages?
coiler:
And wages?
I presume he means £700 is what is left over after operating costs, and to be honest that’s pretty much the figure I work on.
Yeah, I can see it being worth it to earn £700 being an O/D for a lot of blokes who have the horn for running their own trucks, I’ve done it for more than that in the past & also less than that.
Unless you are really mad for being an O/D, you are far better off being employed by a good firm, £18 per hour on hoyer tankers you say?
If I only ever ran one it would be hard to justify to myself what I do for the folding sometimes but I like the hunt for the new work, the thrill of the chase & the fine wine of success which has been in short supply in the recession, it’s on the turn now though. Hope is a powerful narcotic.
I don’t like trying to get new work on the phone as I find this stressful but it’s got to be done & is worth it if it’s primary rate.
I find the job a piece of ■■■■ to be honest & on the whole enjoy it.
My super power would be hindsight.
With some premium day work and double shift it, could make sense.