chester:
The-Snowman:
No one cares anymore
Let it go manTruckman020 posed a question so I was obliged to reply.
What made you think you were so important to get involved?
You answered his question by telling him you weren’t answering his question. You are a politician and I claim my £20.
Captain Caveman 76:
You answered his question by telling him you weren’t answering his question. You are a politician and I claim my £20.
Quote me this question I answered?
chester:
Truckman020 posed a question so I was obliged to reply.
What made you think you were so important to get involved?
I think if you re-read said question you’ll find that it was actually everyone EXCEPT you he was posing it to so I don’t need to think i’m important enough to answer, I just need to not be you.
The-Snowman:
I think if you re-read said question you’ll find that it was actually everyone EXCEPT you he was posing it to so I don’t need to think i’m important enough to answer, I just need to not be you.
Well if he had specified that in his query then I would have saved myself the bother of replying.
chester:
Well if he had specified that in his query then I would have saved myself the bother of replying.
He did
truckman020:
is chester
Its pretty clear really. Maybe you should join the grammar police you like to keep mentioning? Might mean you dont make a ■■■ of yourself so much?
Just a suggestion
So by that logic if your username is identified in a query then that renders you from answering any specifics to the question?
chester:
So by that logic if your username is identified in a query then that renders you from answering any specifics to the question?
No, but it means anyone else doesnt need to be “important” enough to answer since anyone can answer it. Its not directed at anyone in particular.
Are you sure you’re allowed on the internet unsupervised?
The-Snowman:
chester:
So by that logic if your username is identified in a query then that renders you from answering any specifics to the question?No
Finally we’re getting somewhere.
That’s why I answered the question until you started interfering.
Radar19:
I’ll tell you why, because no one respects to the size of the truck anymore. Everyone has this mentality of “must get in front” at any cost. I’ve done city driving, hell I prefer it to farm work but you have to watch out for every other idiot because they can’t look after themselves.To ride a bike in London you should be made to take a course. A short course that isn’t pass or fail but it will show you the dangers of trying to cut up traffic and HGVs.
There is a reason as to why we ask cyclists to stay back, that reason is because we are bigger and heavier than you. You have ZERO protection. Time and time again we’ve seen cyclists putting themselves in danger and many have become victims because of their own impatient.
To be fair, many cyclists aren’t idiots and do observe whats going on around them, same with drivers of large vehicles. Giving cylists room when overtaking, acknowledging them when you’ve stopped at traffic lights etc.
You can’t keep placing the blame on HGV’s then regulating them to death. At some point you will need to educate the other side. Its all well and good getting lorry drivers on a bike in London but nothing will happen until you show the cyclist what their riding style does and the damages it imposes.
well said radar 19spot on mate but the truck driver will get the blame every time 
until cyclists take there own safety first fully agree with all you say but we all no nothing will change
chester:
The-Snowman:
chester:
So by that logic if your username is identified in a query then that renders you from answering any specifics to the question?No
Finally we’re getting somewhere.
That’s why I answered the question until you started interfering.
Do you think that just by removing the last part of my comment suddenly means its not applicable?
That’s poor chester, even by your standards.
Stop digging man
chester:
Although LGVs would still be in towns and city’s being driven by drivers who can’t see any thing or anyone around them.
This is a total load of ■■■■■■■■.
Yes, HGV’s have blindspots but there are ample mirrors on trucks to allow you keep an eye on whats going on all around you. Cyclists don’t position themselves in your blindspot from nowhere, if your concentrating on whats going on you will see them approach. Thousands of HGV drivers negotiate city centres every day perfectly safely with no issue.
Even the best HGV drivers (I acknowledge that a lot of cyclist deaths will owe to genuinely careless driving) , like everybody else, are human and will have lapses in concentration & get distracted; when making a left turn in a busy city centre street there is more to worry about than just whats coming down your nearside. At some point, your likely going to have to check your offside as you give yourself room for the turn or there will be something round the corner that requires your attention. That split second with your eye off your nearside is all it takes for some chancer to come flying down out of nowhere after your already committed & thats it. Larger vehicles, should command respect on the road & more vulnerable road users should be properly educated on self-preservation like pedestrians are with the green cross code etc. Being a HGV driver & thus knowing the craic, I would back myself 100% to cycle through central London and not get mowed down by a wagon. Road safety is a two way street.
I have said before that driving a HGV through central London amongst cyclists is like allowing HGVs to drive through a packed kids playground, even with every driver trying their best to be careful it’s inevitable that eventually someones going to get hurt.
However, cyclist education doesn’t suit the agenda of government who want to encourage cycling. We know all too well as HGV drivers that as soon as you start bringing in red tape, regulation & an increased onus of responsibility that it puts people off. Given London & many other cities don’t have the space for proper, segregated cycling infrastructure, the best thing that could happen to hauliers & drivers is for us to get banned and thus end the inevitable continued bombardment of new costly government regulations.
rob22888:
chester:
Although LGVs would still be in towns and city’s being driven by drivers who can’t see any thing or anyone around them.This is a total load of ■■■■■■■■.
Yes, HGV’s have blindspots
“It’s a load in ■■■■■■■■”
Then the poster states…,
“Yes, HGVs have blind spots”
Please refer to my original post reference blind spots.
Hence my original post,
The trucking industry brought up the fact they can’t really see any other road user around them.
Don’t shoot the messenger? Jees!
Lorries will always have blindspots unless you plaster them with cameras from every angle, lorry drivers obviously have to take their blindspots into consideration as much as they can but other road users really need to swot up on blindspots as well. If the trucker can’t see you, no matter how much he looks in his mirrors, you’re either too close behind him or on his side blindspot at which point you’d better not be the same side as that flashing amber light or you’re toast. A truck is a large lumbering potentially dangerous beast to be wary around, not just a tiresome lump of metal you can scoot round at any angle and expect them to psychically sense your presence.
Can someone flatten Chester at a set of lights before he bores the site offline?
Thanks in advance.
A.
Yesterday I attended a Safe Urban Driving DCPC course organised through FORS.
The cycling instructor was British Cycling Federation approved and reckoned she cycles over 200 miles per week.
We were told that under no circumstances were we to go down the inside of a large vehicle or even a car. We were also told not to go between rows of traffic.
We were shown how to take the ‘primary’ position in the lane to prevent vehicles passing us. If we were first at the lights we took the centre of the lane. If a vehicle was already at the lights we waited behind them. It was all about not placing ourselves in danger.
I can’t say I agreed with all of it, but it is apparent the ‘experts’ don’t agree with the way a lot of cyclists behave. So to me it seems they all need educating.
I have no idea why there were 23 truck drivers being trained to ride a bike. Don’t the people at FORS have strange ideas. Although much better for them we all pay £90.00 each to do it than they end up funding the cyclists training 
Evil8Beezle:
chester:
How would you feel if cyclists had Trucks Stay Back signs?Why? As a professional driver you should automatically.
And if you don’t someone can take your Registration and report you!
Your two assumptions are both different, you then add a full stop, then start a sentence with a capital A in the word and then for some bizarre reason add a capital R to the word registration.
Disclaimer (I ain’t a grammar ■■■■, I enjoy those who are)
chester:
Evil8Beezle:
chester:
How would you feel if cyclists had Trucks Stay Back signs?Why? As a professional driver you should automatically.
And if you don’t someone can take your Registration and report you!Your two assumptions are both different, you then add a full stop, then start a sentence with a capital A in the word and then for some bizarre reason add a capital R to the word registration.
Disclaimer (I ain’t a grammar ■■■■, I enjoy those who are)
Wots wiv the brackets?