How to destroy your drivers morale in one foul swoop

Flexi drivers mon-fri days£9.50 ph,your regular driver £7 ph,what zb joke :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:

Better of on the agency then ?

That’s like being kicked in the balls. And you’ll still be expected to do a better job than them. Do some boses really not get it, pay a good wage and you get a good ammount off graft in return. I was offered a job the other week, ■■■■ hourly rate but hey you get a £40 breakage allowance. How about pay the drivers a proper wage and they’d try alot harder not to break anything. I’d be seriously ■■■■■■ off if my boss took a “flexi” driver on and paid him more then me as seen as I’ve put blood sweat and tears into his business for him. He’ll wonder why morale has gone through the floor at your place but he won’t understand why.

No one worth a light should be driving a lorry for £7 an hour, morale at that rate would be measured in the minus scale.

The higher rate being paid to the casuals is probably on a self employed basis, yes?, so worth about the same pittance as the £7 PAYE rate overall.

don’t want to be one of these “I’m worth 80 grand a year” drivers but realisticly £7.00 per hour is an insult even for class 2. I have always said I’d work for minimum wage if I was unemployed but I’d not drive a van for that money. There just has to be something better out there, unless the reguar driver has a licence full of points or a ban or something.

But you’ll still have a job in January. It’s no different than using agencies so i cant see the problem.

They cant destroy what we havent got !!! :open_mouth:

Juddian:
No one worth a light should be driving a lorry for £7 an hour, morale at that rate would be measured in the minus scale.

The higher rate being paid to the casuals is probably on a self employed basis, yes?, so worth about the same pittance as the £7 PAYE rate overall.

Huntapac pay £6.80 an hour, and we all seem to accept it, as there is little else in the NW region that pays much more

I’m driving for potentially £5.98 an hr if I max my hrs out.

For 60 hrs a week it’s £6.53…

DonutUK:
I’m driving for potentially £5.98 an hr if I max my hrs out.

For 60 hrs a week it’s £6.53…

I wouldnt even think about putting me boots on for that ! :confused:

dozy:
Flexi drivers mon-fri days£9.50 ph,your regular driver £7 ph,what zb joke :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:

Working for £7 per hour, you really need your head looking at!!!

Do you get time and a half after 8 hours ■■
If you do then for a 12 hour shift you’re on about £8.15 an hour
For a 15 shift it’s about £8.63

Sounds a bit better :smiley:

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It’s all about supply and demand.

The job is easy - otherwise you wouldn’t be doing it - so supply is high.
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Don’t forget they can replace you with people ready, willing & able to work for less…!

The £7 is bad but who will earn the most over the year. If the flexi has to commit to the firm but never knows when he’s working maybe he should get more just like an agency driver would, or at least used to

I was a contract driver working for 27 cents a K the regular drivers were getting 23 cents a K, and they found out. I was cornered on the loading bank and asked what the score was.

They get holiday pay I don’t, they get sick pay I don’t, I can get shoved out the door when work gets slack, they won’t. They get a superannuation deal, I don’t. they have a medical plan, I don’t. If they didn’t get the K’s per week they still got an agreed amount at the end of the week, I didn’t. I’m on a different tax bracket as well. We were all mates after that.

I took the deal because if suited my circumstance at the time.

Jeff.

Karl86:
That’s like being kicked in the balls. And you’ll still be expected to do a better job than them. Do some boses really not get it, pay a good wage and you get a good ammount off graft in return. I was offered a job the other week, [zb] hourly rate but hey you get a £40 breakage allowance. How about pay the drivers a proper wage and they’d try alot harder not to break anything. I’d be seriously ■■■■■■ off if my boss took a “flexi” driver on and paid him more then me as seen as I’ve put blood sweat and tears into his business for him. He’ll KNOW why morale has gone through the floor at your place but he won’t CARE .

Fixed that for you :wink: (Because they know that there is no shortage of drivers unfortunately)

stand united and we would get a pay rise but drivers look after themselves only look at the dock workers,teachers,firemen stand together better working conditions e.g. the french strike together

Not saying its right but gets the message through same when fuel went on strike brought country to stand still image if we striked for one day !!! no bread, Bnewspapers & milk no bin collections no parcel deliveries no concrete country many to list be at a halt . wouldnt u take a week no pay for 25% pay rise plus a pension, medical provision , life insurance… 28 wagons could bring the country to a standstill bloke arteritis motorways parked 4 across job done !!

yeah they say there surplus drivers they will say to keep labour cheap scare tactics, am sorry its easy to get a job if you can’t cause maybe you look scruffy and got no pride in your driving why should they hire you represent their company and polite not swearing every other word…

you say a union a waste of time if every driver joined one be fair to every company in uk and fair playing field for them some bosses won’t to pay more but rates don’t allow him because joe around corner will undercut him so we suffer

Because drivers will tramp for wait for it £325 sun to friday plus £15 a night oh and all london work( I get a bonus on top of that fuel damage etc a smile none, I said your good comedian bye) this based by chester 8 miles from where a live i’ll drive an hour to get double that thank you .mmm rant over

It’s ‘one fell swoop’

How do you have any morale in the first place driving a truck for £7ph?