nsmith1180:
Really the only thing that boils my ■■■■ these days is when I cant get parked up at night because the laybys are filled with wagons with PL and SK and BG on their number plates. But thats a whole different conversation, and one which has been equally done to death.
Why would that bother a driver that only does UK work , is it just EE trucks you have a problem with or do trucks with NL, B, D, or F…‘boil your ■■■■’ also.
Maybe these guys resort to lay bys as they don’t know the areas and they are welcome to them as far as I’m concerned. As for domestic drivers making do with them, I can never understand why, it just shows a lack of knowledge and imagination, and a willingness to put up, and make do with, ■■■■ poor conditions.
As for me live and let live with foreign drivers, and I prefer to park somewhere with an element of facilities.
nsmith1180:
Really the only thing that boils my ■■■■ these days is when I cant get parked up at night because the laybys are filled with wagons with PL and SK and BG on their number plates. But thats a whole different conversation, and one which has been equally done to death.
Why would that bother a driver that only does UK work , is it just EE trucks you have a problem with or do trucks with NL, B, D, or F…‘boil your ■■■■’ also.
Maybe these guys resort to lay bys as they don’t know the areas and they are welcome to them as far as I’m concerned. As for domestic drivers making do with them, I can never understand why, it just shows a lack of knowledge and imagination, and a willingness to put up, and make do with, ■■■■ poor conditions.
As for me live and let live with foreign drivers, and I prefer to park somewhere with an element of facilities.
Yes, it does boil my ■■■■ when I cant park up because of an abundance of trucks of any foreign origin. I hate to fall into an us against them mentality but any load carried on a foreign truck, is a load that a british driver could have been paid to deliver. Those trucks on our roads are quite litterally taking money out of our pockets.
That being said, I also annoys me when I see a little 7.5t parked slap bang in the middle of an otherwise empty two truck layby, making it impossible for another truck to park there too. Thats happened to me before, and it was a british haulier!
As for ‘domestic drivers’ and a ‘lack of knowledge and imagination’, some peoples bosses don’t pay for parking. Some people like to park as close as they can to the delivery/collection point. Some people just get stuck in traffic and cant get to an MSA, Truckstop, 24 Hour petrol station or any of the other places with an element of facilities.
ever had fellow drivers flash and wave and you look and think to yourself who the heck was that,and it bugs you for the rest of the day wondering who they are
nsmith1180:
That being said, I also annoys me when I see a little 7.5t parked slap bang in the middle of an otherwise empty two truck layby, making it impossible for another truck to park there too. Thats happened to me before, and it was a british haulier!
Not quite so straightforward that one IMO. How many times have you pulled up behind a truck to have your break and halfway through your break he has pulled away leaving a gap that others may think that you are being awkward by not filling? Sometimes the last thing you want to do is to restart a break just to keep someone else happy.
nsmith1180:
Really the only thing that boils my ■■■■ these days is when I cant get parked up at night because the laybys are filled with wagons with PL and SK and BG on their number plates. But thats a whole different conversation, and one which has been equally done to death.
Why would that bother a driver that only does UK work , is it just EE trucks you have a problem with or do trucks with NL, B, D, or F…‘boil your ■■■■’ also.
Maybe these guys resort to lay bys as they don’t know the areas and they are welcome to them as far as I’m concerned. As for domestic drivers making do with them, I can never understand why, it just shows a lack of knowledge and imagination, and a willingness to put up, and make do with, ■■■■ poor conditions.
As for me live and let live with foreign drivers, and I prefer to park somewhere with an element of facilities.
Yes, it does boil my ■■■■ when I cant park up because of an abundance of trucks of any foreign origin. I hate to fall into an us against them mentality but any load carried on a foreign truck, is a load that a british driver could have been paid to deliver. Those trucks on our roads are quite litterally taking money out of our pockets.
That being said, I also annoys me when I see a little 7.5t parked slap bang in the middle of an otherwise empty two truck layby, making it impossible for another truck to park there too. Thats happened to me before, and it was a british haulier!
As for ‘domestic drivers’ and a ‘lack of knowledge and imagination’, some peoples bosses don’t pay for parking. Some people like to park as close as they can to the delivery/collection point. Some people just get stuck in traffic and cant get to an MSA, Truckstop, 24 Hour petrol station or any of the other places with an element of facilities.
You are talking ■■■■■■■■ mate, how do you know that the Dutch, Belgian, French truck does not have a British driver, I have worked for all these nationalities in the past, and from time to time had to endure the type of narrow minded crap from other Brit drivers, of the sort you come out with, that is of course until I opened my mouth and they backed right off when hearing the Brit accent Anyway, even if they are not Brit drivers in foreign motors, Trucks are not just confined to their own Countries ffs , …believe it for not some Brit drivers in Brit motors do go further South than Dover you know that’s how it works, it’s called International Haulage.
You are right some firms do not pay parking, but some drivers irrespective of that find their own free places with facilities, Ind est, retail parks, or little places on the edge of a town, and shock horror …some drivers actually prioritise this for their own benefit, over parking as close to a delivery point as possible.
nsmith1180:
That being said, I also annoys me when I see a little 7.5t parked slap bang in the middle of an otherwise empty two truck layby, making it impossible for another truck to park there too. Thats happened to me before, and it was a british haulier!
Not quite so straightforward that one IMO. How many times have you pulled up behind a truck to have your break and halfway through your break he has pulled away leaving a gap that others may think that you are being awkward by not filling? Sometimes the last thing you want to do is to restart a break just to keep someone else happy.
robroy:
You are talking ■■■■■■■■ mate, how do you know that the Dutch, Belgian, French truck does not have a British driver, I have worked for all these nationalities in the past, and from time to time had to endure the type of narrow minded crap from other Brit drivers, of the sort you come out with, that is of course until I opened my mouth and they backed right off when hearing the Brit accent Anyway, even if they are not Brit drivers in foreign motors, Trucks are not just confined to their own Countries ffs , …believe it for not some Brit drivers in Brit motors do go further South than Dover you know that’s how it works, it’s called International Haulage.
You are right some firms do not pay parking, but some drivers irrespective of that find their own free places with facilities, Ind est, retail parks, or little places on the edge of a town, and shock horror …some drivers actually prioritise this for their own benefit, over parking as close to a delivery point as possible.
I used to do delveries from Luton to North Circular every day and regularly played a little game. I checked out the nationalities of the trucks I was either passing or being passed by on the way back. The worst day was the day in which I was either passed by or passed 77 trucks between J1 and J10, of which 4 were UK registered. Are you telling me that all 73 of the other trucks had a Brit at the wheel?
I’m sick of seeing more foreign trucks than UK ones on UK roads and the government slapping a £10 a day charge on them is an insult to UK hauliers, who pay significantly more to use our roads.
Markk80:
the maoster:
nsmith1180:
That being said, I also annoys me when I see a little 7.5t parked slap bang in the middle of an otherwise empty two truck layby, making it impossible for another truck to park there too. Thats happened to me before, and it was a british haulier!
Not quite so straightforward that one IMO. How many times have you pulled up behind a truck to have your break and halfway through your break he has pulled away leaving a gap that others may think that you are being awkward by not filling? Sometimes the last thing you want to do is to restart a break just to keep someone else happy.
robroy:
You are talking ■■■■■■■■ mate, how do you know that the Dutch, Belgian, French truck does not have a British driver, I have worked for all these nationalities in the past, and from time to time had to endure the type of narrow minded crap from other Brit drivers, of the sort you come out with, that is of course until I opened my mouth and they backed right off when hearing the Brit accent Anyway, even if they are not Brit drivers in foreign motors, Trucks are not just confined to their own Countries ffs , …believe it for not some Brit drivers in Brit motors do go further South than Dover you know that’s how it works, it’s called International Haulage.
You are right some firms do not pay parking, but some drivers irrespective of that find their own free places with facilities, Ind est, retail parks, or little places on the edge of a town, and shock horror …some drivers actually prioritise this for their own benefit, over parking as close to a delivery point as possible.
I used to do delveries from Luton to North Circular every day and regularly played a little game. I checked out the nationalities of the trucks I was either passing or being passed by on the way back. The worst day was the day in which I was either passed by or passed 77 trucks between J1 and J10, of which 4 were UK registered. Are you telling me that all 73 of the other trucks had a Brit at the wheel?
I’m sick of seeing more foreign trucks than UK ones on UK roads and the government slapping a £10 a day charge on them is an insult to UK hauliers, who pay significantly more to use our roads.
Markk80:
the maoster:
nsmith1180:
That being said, I also annoys me when I see a little 7.5t parked slap bang in the middle of an otherwise empty two truck layby, making it impossible for another truck to park there too. Thats happened to me before, and it was a british haulier!
Not quite so straightforward that one IMO. How many times have you pulled up behind a truck to have your break and halfway through your break he has pulled away leaving a gap that others may think that you are being awkward by not filling? Sometimes the last thing you want to do is to restart a break just to keep someone else happy.
Well said mate. Some people can’t think.
Fair point, well made. I retract.
So you’re driving around and counting foreign trucks?
nsmith1180:
Really the only thing that boils my ■■■■ these days is when I cant get parked up at night because the laybys are filled with wagons with PL and SK and BG on their number plates. But thats a whole different conversation, and one which has been equally done to death.
What’s more annoying than that is when I can’t get out of a space in a service station because one of those drivers has parked right across my back, or at least too close to back out. It’s happened twice at Warwick with the same Slovenian artic driver.
nsmith1180:
I used to do delveries from Luton to North Circular every day and regularly played a little game. I checked out the nationalities of the trucks I was either passing or being passed by on the way back. The worst day was the day in which I was either passed by or passed 77 trucks between J1 and J10, of which 4 were UK registered. Are you telling me that all 73 of the other trucks had a Brit at the wheel?
I’m sick of seeing more foreign trucks than UK ones on UK roads and the government slapping a £10 a day charge on them is an insult to UK hauliers, who pay significantly more to use our roads.
Of course I’m not saying they are all Brit drivers and which road in the UK exactly has more foreign trucks on it than British, could it possibly have been from Dover when the ferry had just got in
Counting trucks, …you really ought to get out more mate.
You are obviously fairly new to the job and do not understand the concept of International Haulage, give it a go and broaden your horizons, but I best warn you if you do, and given as how you hate them …there are a hell of a lot of Foreign trucks over there, not only that, but the ■■■■■■■■ s even drive on the wrong side of the road
IndigoJo:
What’s more annoying than that is when I can’t get out of a space in a service station because one of those drivers has parked right across my back, or at least too close to back out. It’s happened twice at Warwick with the same Slovenian artic driver.
Maybe it’s his way of trying to ‘get to know you’ and really get ‘right across your back’ as you put it
These Slovenians get a bit lonely you know being away from home for weeks on end.
robroy:
You are obviously fairly new to the job and do not understand the concept of International Haulage, give it a go and broaden your horizons, but I best warn you if you do, and given as how you hate them …there are a hell of a lot of Foreign trucks over there, not only that, but the [zb] s even drive on the wrong side of the road
On the contrary sir, I do understand the concept. What I fail to understand is why we have to have so flippin many of them over here! Having lived on the continent I don’t think my horizons need much more broadening when it comes to the European way of life. I don’t see the need to run the gauntlet of scum and criminals in Calais to make a living.
I do however note that you are infamous here for regularly finding something to ■■■■■ about. At least I have done my civic duty to TNUK for this weekend.
nsmith1180:
I don’t see the need to run the gauntlet of scum and criminals in Calais to make a living.
I do however note that you are infamous here for regularly finding something to ■■■■■ about. At least I have done my civic duty to TNUK for this weekend.
Ok but if you did, at least you could come on here and actually know wtf you are on about eh?
Infamy? Thanks bud, that’s just what I was going for. …my work here is done
robroy:
You are obviously fairly new to the job and do not understand the concept of International Haulage, give it a go and broaden your horizons, but I best warn you if you do, and given as how you hate them …there are a hell of a lot of Foreign trucks over there, not only that, but the [zb] s even drive on the wrong side of the road
On the contrary sir, I do understand the concept. What I fail to understand is why we have to have so flippin many of them over here! Having lived on the continent I don’t think my horizons need much more broadening when it comes to the European way of life. I don’t see the need to run the gauntlet of scum and criminals in Calais to make a living.
I do however note that you are infamous here for regularly finding something to ■■■■■ about. At least I have done my civic duty to TNUK for this weekend.
to be fair in the 90’s there were loads of ‘british’ trucks running over the water. its just changed and now our turn to have it, in a few years it will move to somewhere else.
Stobart was a company who started off small, always had a tidy fleet way back then, and has got bigger and smarter. I dont believe that there is another company out there that has so much public support or even a fan club, to them image is the name of the game and they have achieved that for sure and i salute them. As for the drivers i treat them right if they treat me right, the same as drivers from other companies, and if they were that bad surely they would have trouble recruiting…they are like most other companies because there is a shortage of drivers for lots of reasons as has been debated many times, retirements, lack of interest for the industry for newbies, dont want to live in a tin box etc, the list goes on and on.
Some of the posters have none or little education as to how this industry works, its dog eat dog im afraid. remember the days when the uk had its own manufacturing plants for tv/radio/white goods, cars/trucks etc etc..then the chinese/japanese got a foot in the door, their vehicles were a lot more reliable, their white goods looked better, worked better, lasted longer, but the biggest bonus for both was the price..same as haulage..when a fridge/washing machine breaks down we have to look for a replacement, and price was the main reason for buying foreign..and that alone caused our industries to cease, or at least to save the company re-locate the factory abroad..the same with haulage..people want their goods moved, at a price to suit them, sometimes manufacturers used the loyalty card even though their haulier was more expensive. The EU opened up its doors and nobody saw what and influx of foreign registered vehicles could do..no extra parking was created ( even though it was promised by our own governments ) parking in between services like the Aires in france. A lot of hauliers moved to Holland ( flagged out ) everyone saidgood luck ` a lot of companies from abroad also flagged out, my boss flagged out to BG…Norbert flagged out to PL…David Croome flagged out to the east…and even dear old Stobart has now flagged some out to CZ…i know of large belgium companies who flagged to BG ( Essers and its all about the cost…and to those moaning about foreigners taking your work…thats nonsence, companies are giving them the work to save costs…but bear in mind that the majority of foreigners to the uk are one way only, most go back to europe empty…i know cos i run with them, have seen them in the ports, spoken with them, of course there are some who load uk to europe, and i am one of them, but we are an english company on foreign plates, and i am on english money ( £700-800 ) a week on uk wages, but my tax is paid in bg so i end up with £2000 net in the bank monthly, i get more time off than most euro drivers ( and still get paid ) and there are other perks too, so dont think when you see a foreign registered truck that the driver is of the same origin, and dont stop flashing me in just cos i is a foreigner. just look at my proper shoes when i get from my truck…no flip flops.
, is it just EE trucks you have a problem with or do trucks with NL, B, D, or F…‘boil your ■■■■’ 
also.
and they are welcome to them as far as I’m concerned. As for domestic drivers making do with them, I can never understand why, it just shows a lack of knowledge and imagination, and a willingness to put up, and make do with, ■■■■ poor conditions.
got that right drive 
