Having just spent an hour and half shuffling along the M25 trying to escape at J28 my tacho has robbed me of loads of time and put me over my 4.5hr driving period
I was wondering how quickly you could use up your 4.5hr driving period if you were stuck in heavy traffic.
Also what is the legal situation if you go over hours when you clearly havenāt done it?
Do a print out as soon as you get parked up and write an explanation on the back. If you donāt do it at the time you canāt do it later. And keep it safe for the next month!
you can use up your 4.5 hours quicker if you have an early digi tacho and just do stop/start moves where 30 secs count as 1 minute.
No you canāt, it has been debated god know how many times on here. It will round up to the next minute yes but it is not possible for any digi tacho to show more then 1 hour driving in 1 hour or 4.5 hours in 4.5 hours. If it is then it is faulty.
TDL102:
āHow quickly can you use up your 4.5 driving?ā - probably in about 4 and a half hours I should imagine, that or you have a time machine.
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The only way to get around is to launch your vehicle into space and quickly orbit the earth against itās rotation a few times like Superman did. Youāre not going to be able to do that though because youāre stuck in traffic.
8wheels:
I was wondering how quickly you could use up your 4.5hr driving period if you were stuck in heavy traffic.
How long is a piece of string? One thingās for sure, it wonāt be any less than four and a half hours.
you can use up your 4.5 hours quicker if you have an early digi tacho and just do stop/start moves where 30 secs count as 1 minute.
No you canāt, it has been debated god know how many times on here. It will round up to the next minute yes but it is not possible for any digi tacho to show more then 1 hour driving in 1 hour or 4.5 hours in 4.5 hours. If it is then it is faulty.
Exactly!!! and being in charge of the vehicle in traffic shuffling along constitutes driving stop/start or not anyway.
they will only rob you of time if you stop and then move again in under 3 minutes.
When I used to queue on the docks I would always wait for 3 minutes before each move as it would only use 1 minute up each time you moved if your move was less than a minute of course
The drivers who think they rob you of minutes whilst stuck in an traffic jam are IDIOTS!!!
Iāve just been discussing this with a mate. Iāve got a new tacho that doesnāt rob minutes heās got an old one that does yet heāll be having a cold beer before me! You can shove the new accurate tachos as far as Iām concerned
8wheels:
Having just spent an hour and half shuffling along the M25 trying to escape at J28 my tacho has robbed me of loads of time and put me over my 4.5hr driving period
Are you saying that it recorded the 1.5hrs of shuffling as 1.5hrs of driving, when you hoped it would have recorded it as, say, 1 hr of driving and 1/2hr of other-work?
If youāre saying that it recorded more than 1.5hr of driving when you were only shuffling for 1.5hr, then Iād be really, really, interested to look at the download file of your card, if youāre able to get it.
No you canāt, it has been debated god know how many times on here. It will round up to the next minute yes but it is not possible for any digi tacho to show more then 1 hour driving in 1 hour or 4.5 hours in 4.5 hours. If it is then it is faulty
just given this some more thought in regards to the OP.
While it may be true that the tacho will not show MORE than 4.5 hours driving in 4.5 hours time, it will however show 4.5 hours in less than 4.5 hours.
eg. drive for 4 hours 29 mins, stop and then drive for 10secs
total drive 4hrs 29mins 10secs, tacho will show 4.5 hours, yes?
the same would apply to 1 hr segments, 59mins 10 secs will be recorded as 1hr.
No you canāt - youāre stop-starting all the time!
It took me 4hr20 to bloody well get there, so the only option youāve got to be legal is pull out of the queue for a 45, get back in the queue, wait the remaining time to be tipped, and by the time youāve done that, youāll need a second 45 before leaving, and if you get mucked about in the backload queue, a THIRD 45 on the way backto base, in my case at clacket lane only half hour from home! (9:50 driving total)
Mr B:
Iāve just been discussing this with a mate. Iāve got a new tacho that doesnāt rob minutes heās got an old one that does yet heāll be having a cold beer before me! You can shove the new accurate tachos as far as Iām concerned
These tachos can work for and/or against you, I was on break the other week and I had to move my truck about 50 yards and it still showed up as break after.
Every motor Iāve driven changes the mode off break to ādrivingā the moment you start to trundleā¦
Even paper ones leave a tiny trace to show that a break was interruptedā¦
they donāt immedietly change back from the driving mode when you stop though, which all adds up time. They should be a lot more accurate, especially being digital. Itās a wonder they are allowed by law
Every motor Iāve driven changes the mode off break to ādrivingā the moment you start to trundleā¦
Even paper ones leave a tiny trace to show that a break was interruptedā¦
Digital tachos record things minute by minute. On an āoldā one, if thereās any driving at all in a minute, then the whole minute is considered to be driving.
The newer digital tachos record a minute as whatever mode it was in for the most time in the minute. (e.g. if you do 31s of driving, then itās a ādriving minuteā, but if you do 31s of other-work and 29s of driving, then itās an āother-work minuteā.)
bald bloke:
These tachos can work for and/or against you, I was on break the other week and I had to move my truck about 50 yards and it still showed up as break after
Winseer:
What kind of tacho is that?
Every motor Iāve driven changes the mode off break to ādrivingā the moment you start to trundleā¦
Even paper ones leave a tiny trace to show that a break was interruptedā¦
I would have to put it back onto rest because those 10 seconds or so of driving would have put it in drive mode, but because it wasnāt long enough to register as driving it assumed i kept it on rest.
Mr B:
Iāve just been discussing this with a mate. Iāve got a new tacho that doesnāt rob minutes heās got an old one that does yet heāll be having a cold beer before me! You can shove the new accurate tachos as far as Iām concerned
AGREED LESS WORK FOR US OLD STYLERS COS WE GET USED UP QUICKER
Well I canāt be certain of what it did exactly, itās just that the short bursts of driving certainly didnāt equate to an hours worth of movement which is roughly what the machine took. Each movement forwards was about 5 -10 seconds followed by a up to 2 or 3 minutes of waiting for the next instalment.
Iām not massively up on tacho regs as the only bit I ever have to worry about is to stop before doing 4.5h and usually max out at about 7 hours driving in a day. Minimum daily / weekly rest periods arenāt an issue either as I donāt burn the candle at both ends.