How much does an agency make off a driver on average Per hour ?
Why does it matter? If you think you can undercut them then go for it. If you’re not happy with your cut then leave, if you’re happy then don’t quibble. Agencies are a business not a charity.
Don’t want to know 
mickeyflyn:
How much does an agency make off a driver on average Per hour ?
Not that its the drivers business…
But about £2 or thereabouts. Out of that £2 they’ve got to pay for all the costs of running the agency. Takes lots of £2s to pay for a city centre office, half a dozen staff, advertising, someone travelling around doing the sales calls etc. I doubt many agencies with city centre offices have much change out of £500k a year operating costs.
i pesume its as much as they think they can get away with i speak with experience of finding out after an agency i was working for folded due to embezzelement by the bloke who was trusted…! to run it drove it into the ground then going out socially with one of the office staff for a drink
and got told a few interesting tales
If its ’ performance related pay '…nothing.
I was wondering as I’ve been doing some class 2 agency work and speaking to other drivers from different agencies as well as some employers .drivers seem to be on different rates for doing the same job while different employers moan about the different rates various agencies charge for drivers . I worked for an employer last week who told me he had switched from a well known large agency because their rates were very high and the standard of drivers was poor , ie lots of young inexperienced drivers for which they were charging top rates.
I’ve also been asked if i would consider doing some freelance driving to cut out the middle man .
i was speaking to another driver on the same job as me being paid more and found out we were working for the same agency even though i am older and way more experienced but haven’t been on their books very long.
I’ve come to the conclusion that its a lottery working for an agency but I’m only driving for pocket money 2 or 3 days a week so it suits me for now.
I feel for the guys with young families and mortgages to pay in such a cut throat market.
Conor:
mickeyflyn:
How much does an agency make off a driver on average Per hour ?Not that its the drivers business…
But about £2 or thereabouts. Out of that £2 they’ve got to pay for all the costs of running the agency. Takes lots of £2s to pay for a city centre office, half a dozen staff, advertising, someone travelling around doing the sales calls etc. I doubt many agencies with city centre offices have much change out of £500k a year operating costs.
My heart bleeds for them, poor souls, how do they manage to continue their service to us drivers on such a low margin. 
It’s a pity they did not all just go and ■■■■ right off so drivers could get a decent rate direct, ■■■■■■ parasites. 
robroy:
My heart bleeds for them, poor souls, how do they manage to continue their service to us drivers on such a low margin.
It’s a pity they did not all just go and [zb] right off so drivers could get a decent rate direct, [zb] parasites.
Whilst you’re taking the ■■■■ don’t forget that they have to pay you the following week and may not get paid for the work you do for months. Sometimes they may not get paid at all.
A mate of mine ran an agency. It bankrupted him because of customers dragging their heels paying.
Drivers are quite capable of getting a decent rate. All they need to do is set up their own company, spend a week or two driving around all the local companies to get business and start working. Thinking about the state of a lot of the drivers I see maybe that should be buy a bar of soap, a razor and some clothes without grease on or holes in, have a wash and a shave, dress up like the rest of humanity and then go knocking on doors. Oh and they’ll need enough money to be able to do that and still pay all their household bills until the first invoices get paid. The decent paying work with decent companies is usually monthly invoice and on 30 or 60 day payment terms so you don’t get paid for the first day’s work for 2 or 3 months assuming they pay on time.
Conor:
robroy:
My heart bleeds for them, poor souls, how do they manage to continue their service to us drivers on such a low margin.
It’s a pity they did not all just go and [zb] right off so drivers could get a decent rate direct, [zb] parasites.Whilst you’re taking the ■■■■ don’t forget that they have to pay you the following week and may not get paid for the work you do for months. Sometimes they may not get paid at all.
A mate of mine ran an agency. It bankrupted him because of customers dragging their heels paying.
Drivers are quite capable of getting a decent rate. All they need to do is set up their own company, spend a week or two driving around all the local companies to get business and start working. Thinking about the state of a lot of the drivers I see maybe that should be buy a bar of soap, a razor and some clothes without grease on or holes in, have a wash and a shave, dress up like the rest of humanity and then go knocking on doors. Oh and they’ll need enough money to be able to do that and still pay all their household bills until the first invoices get paid. The decent paying work with decent companies is usually monthly invoice and on 30 or 60 day payment terms so you don’t get paid for the first day’s work for 2 or 3 months assuming they pay on time.
No,…still can’t raise any sympathy.
The agency thing seems to work ok for you so I can see why you speak up for them, but we all managed perfectly well without them once over thank you, a time when drivers wages were relatively better to what they are today. I am sure that there is a correlation there somewhere between those two points 
Double post.
Conor:
robroy:
My heart bleeds for them, poor souls, how do they manage to continue their service to us drivers on such a low margin.
It’s a pity they did not all just go and [zb] right off so drivers could get a decent rate direct, [zb] parasites.Whilst you’re taking the ■■■■ don’t forget that they have to pay you the following week and may not get paid for the work you do for months. Sometimes they may not get paid at all.
I used to work for a company that at the end owed one agency 30k (And i think we used 4 in total) before going into administration so no money to pay that bill. We owed loads of people in the end: Fuel cards, tyre fitters, portakabin/office, skip hire people didn’t collect for months so we just stacked up all the waste around it. I went to poop in the end.
robroy:
The agency thing seems to work ok for you so I can see why you speak up for them, but we all managed perfectly well without them once over thank you, a time when drivers wages were relatively better to what they are today. I am sure that there is a correlation there somewhere between those two points
When was that then? They’ve been on the go in haulage for at least quarter of a century now that I know of.
Conor:
robroy:
The agency thing seems to work ok for you so I can see why you speak up for them, but we all managed perfectly well without them once over thank you, a time when drivers wages were relatively better to what they are today. I am sure that there is a correlation there somewhere between those two pointsWhen was that then? They’ve been on the go in haulage for at least quarter of a century now that I know of.
Not sure if that’s a rhetorical question and you doubt me,… but if you ARE interested, I was going back to my own experiences in the 80s when I had my own motors, and very occasionally used a local agency that started off at the same era that most did.
A long time ago I know, but drivers were on better money then in relation to living costs as most, I am sure will agree.
Agencies came about on a small scale providing co.s with a driver when they were stuck, or for holiday relief etc. The drivers that they used were usually inexperienced that could not get a start because of it, so they earned a bad name for doing damage and ■■■■ ups in general.
As business increased workers with spare time on their hands, such as firemen or postmen shift workers etc (and I knew at least one Traffic cop) with licenses signed up, and eventually a lot of other drivers jumped on it on a self employed basis working as and when they chose… However the difference then from today was THEY called the shots, until eventually the ‘lunatics took over the asylum’ to the point today where drivers are led a merry dance by them and in most cases generally ■■■■■■ ed about at their mercy as a matter of course. (evidently apart from one or two like yourself)
Here endeth the Transport/social history lesson 
My other point was this… The unfortunate thing for us as drivers is, that it has also got to the point where many firms opt for agencies first choice, rather than taking on full time lads. So my beef with them is that the amount they cream off would be better paid direct to the driver rather than to some parasite middle men… that is why I hate the ■■■■■■■■■ and that is why your previous post generated no sympathy from me, I could not give a ■■■■ if they ALL went down the crapper.
I work in the highways sector and drive class one occasionally ,but agencies are a handy way of not only meeting peaks and troughs of demand and covering holiday and sickness,but also mitigating risk when recruiting.We fill posts via the agency then offer full time permanent if the individual is up to scratch.Even though you pay a premium to the agency if you take them on full time this is worth the cost as it saves us time going through the recruitment cycle, cv shortlists, interviews, and if they are not up to scratch moving them on as such is just a phone call.With the agency we use the temp to perm fee is also refundable if they leave within a certain time following going perm.
It is also a mind set with certain people who despite the uncertainty of agency prefer an agency placement to a full time job.I know the moving them on with a phone call may seem harsh but with employment law the way it is its just hard work otherwise and can be detrimental to the business whilst the you are trying to move the bad egg on as such. I would add that 75% of the team including me started on the company this way and some of us have been there coming up 14 years.
Just being curious/nosey, and I won’t be surprised if nobody answers, seeing as I’ve slagged agencies off so much but what’s the going rate for bank hols.
whatever you can throttle out of the slimy barsts - otherwise referred to as “negotiating!”
Who was/were the first driver agency and when were they formed,must have been late 70"s ?
Don’t know about driver agency but someone I know works in labour supply in the building game and they earn a lot more than £2 ph for each man and that’s labourers banks men etc not skilled trade guys.
I saw an agency advert once for our place once, same hours, same conditions etc but the money was 20% more than we were on