that’s the wages on offer for quite a few jobs on the go here. my mates on groupage 5 shifts mon-fri…7am start till jobbing finish,which is ever before 7pm,1 night in the yard till midnight on the forklift,( he still starts at 7 next day) and every 2nd sat in the yard on the forklift till lunchtime,and no he has no forkie ticket before you ask… he takes home £420 which he thinks is good compared to some local dung on offer and better than most for norfolkline local work etc. I think slowies mob on local diesel filling ferry shunting dung are still on £70 though I think its for a min 12 hour.( how anyone could work for that slimey condescending cretin defies my logic,but moneys money)its pure class over here in the land that time forgot.if you want to be a busy poor man,then theres plenty of opperchancities over here.theres some good jobs as well,but not so many
yup £70-£80 per day plus nights out and maybe a small paperwork or truck cleaning bonus so £110-£120 per day less deductions on yer £70-80
Thats as Dieseldog 999 says appears to be the average, and can be in some places top line, and thats without the 580.620.or 720 horses and added bling
As for the max shift times that depends on the job, if you need to do a 10 and 15hrs duty then so be it, thats the nature of the job, in particular on euro work, but sometimes you may only do a few hrs drive/duty still get paid regardless
There’s men in the north doing local tipper work lucky to be clearing ! £300 a week, running bent at that flat out no breaks, you’d be lucky to see a man using a tachograph lol. Maddness
irishexpat:
There’s men in the north doing local tipper work lucky to be clearing ! £300 a week, running bent at that flat out no breaks, you’d be lucky to see a man using a tachograph lol. Maddness
i don’t doubt that there is,
I can remember a mate of mine who used to work for a well known by the Vostapo foreign company who did a lot of hanging meat at the time, and he used to do some silly hours
At the end of the day it all boils down to a driver knowing their limits, obviously if you are too tiered you stop close curtains and sleep no job or amount of money is worth continuing
driving, some used to take certain potent stimulants , not something i would do though , even if it does make you loose weight ,
irishexpat wrote:
There’s men in the north doing local tipper work lucky to be clearing ! £300 a week, running bent at that flat out no breaks, you’d be lucky to see a man using a tachograph lol. Maddness
busteredwards:
Or are they really daft enough to be doing it for nothing?
Its worse than that. Not only are they stupid enough to do it for nothing, they’re actually so stupid they can’t work out they’re taking money out of their own pockets.
dozy:
£8.00 something a hour last week , I didn’t do it for the firm ,I did it for me as I wanted to get back to a place with toilets ,sink to wash in etc ( showers bust )
Why, is there only one place in the entire UK on your journey that had toilets and a sink?
dozy:
I also did it last shift flat to the floor board as 4 nights out was enough for me ,I just wanted to get home asap
Too stupid to work out that if you did the job at a sane speed and slowed down that you’d actually be home earlier because you’d not have enough hours left to do a long last run before needing a weekly rest…
Chase around like an idiot so you’ve got to the yard at the beginning of the fifth day having only driven an hour and they’ll give you another run because you’ve got a 8/9 hrs driving left which could mean another 13hr day.
Drive like a normal person and get back at dinnertime with only 4hrs left and they’re only going to send you out on a local at best.
Seany:
People drive lorries for £8 odd an hour■■?
Yes, usually the ones doing the tear-arsing around, usually for an Irish or Scottish haulier and all of them thinking they’re doing a sterling job and are the only true drivers left unlike the ones they’re trying to shove up the road.
I bet they still love taking your elbow off as they rattle past the cabbage brigade though…obviously theres not 1 person in England or wales doing the same judging by the wages the agency fannies in here make.
I wouldn’t know anyone to be working for the £8ph pittance on anything but local shunting but no doubt theres some victims around.
at least they may have salvaged a degree of self respect by not having to demeen themelves by having their claim to fame as a zero hours job by having an actual job whether it pays well or otherwise.
anyone from Ireland isn’t likely to be doing uk work for £8 ph as its regarded as dung and a necessary evil compared to local or euro hence the reason why its trip money and flat out for the ferry with happy faces all round.though theres the usual big legit outfits that have legal tackle,but even they pay more than £8ph.hence once more the oracle is talking out of his orifice…
Yes, usually the ones doing the tear-arsing around, usually for an Irish or Scottish haulier and all of them thinking they’re doing a sterling job and are the only true drivers left unlike the ones they’re trying to shove up the road.
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LOL therefore the wages in England must be brilliant, because there is no shortage of Englishmen asking to work for Irish outfits!!!
As with anywhere there are the ones paying crap money but get in with the right person and you will be fine currently on a trip to France for £120 a day maybe peanuts to you big men in the south of England but for a 4 day week not to be sniffed at
LIBERTY_GUY:
Currently doing agency, but was offered permanent job last year on steel deliveries doing local and mid distances. £7.20 hour for 26 tonne rigid, or £8.00 hour for artics. Another company this year tried to offer me a permanent job on bulk tippers at £7.00 hour. There are some hauliers that don’t live in the real world…
Especially given that steel work can be a PITA, messing about strapping & chaining stuff down to flatbeds etc. Simply not worth the hassle when you can just drag a fridge or box around & vegetate on loading bays watching films all day for more.
mazzer:
LOL therefore the wages in England must be brilliant, because there is no shortage of Englishmen asking to work for Irish outfits!!!
There is indeed no shortage of dumbasses from England too stupid to do the maths. They have to work for Irish outfits because no UK haulier would touch them. They’re certainly not doing it for the money.
get in with the right person and you will be fine currently on a trip to France for £120 a day maybe peanuts to you big men in the south of England but for a 4 day week not to be sniffed at
£120 a day “if you get in with the right person” running to France from Ireland? Wow, just wow. I really don’t know what to say about that. Its not just peanuts to those in the south of England, its peanuts throughout the whole of England. Does it even make national minimum wage here in the UK? With the amount of time spent on ferries and including loading/unloading its going to be max hours. Even driving for Reed Boardall who are known for not being good payers you’d get paid more than £120 for that. I work for Hull wages which, if you don’t know, are crap. I currently drive from Howden up to Lockerbie Truckstop, wait for the Scots driver, do a trailer changeover, drive back, take the straps off, fuel the motor up, take 11hrs to do it and I get paid £115.50 to do that. I’m not expected to run bent and I’m home in my bed every day.
Conor:
They have to work for Irish outfits because no UK haulier would touch them. They’re certainly not doing it for the money.
That & wanting to live the dream of ‘doing Europe’.
Each to their own & everything, I can’t really criticise people for doing what they want to do in life, but money wise drivers always seem to be on opposite sides of the spectrum. You’ve got those who chase the best money & hours, then those who just want to live the trucking dream of tramping long distance and/or drive a flashy motor & are quite happy to accept modest wages to do so. This is why driver unison will forever be a pipe dream.
Drivers would strike for better pay, then you’d have people ducking out if their boss told them higher wages means a DAF CF…
mazzer:
LOL therefore the wages in England must be brilliant, because there is no shortage of Englishmen asking to work for Irish outfits!!!
There is indeed no shortage of dumbasses from England too stupid to do the maths. They have to work for Irish outfits because no UK haulier would touch them. They’re certainly not doing it for the money.
get in with the right person and you will be fine currently on a trip to France for £120 a day maybe peanuts to you big men in the south of England but for a 4 day week not to be sniffed at
£120 a day “if you get in with the right person” running to France from Ireland? Wow, just wow. I really don’t know what to say about that. Its not just peanuts to those in the south of England, its peanuts throughout the whole of England. Does it even make national minimum wage here in the UK? With the amount of time spent on ferries and including loading/unloading its going to be max hours. Even driving for Reed Boardall who are known for not being good payers you’d get paid more than £120 for that. I work for Hull wages which, if you don’t know, are crap. I currently drive from Howden up to Lockerbie Truckstop, wait for the Scots driver, do a trailer changeover, drive back, take the straps off, fuel the motor up, take 11hrs to do it and I get paid £115.50 to do that. I’m not expected to run bent and I’m home in my bed every day.
I see you are in Yorkshire not exactly a county that tops the pay leagues for haulage in the UK as several threads on here would testify so I would say your job is bit of an exception rather than the rule. Yes I could move to England to earn an extra 10 or 20 pound a day but I think the higher mortgage would soon swallow that plus do I want to put my children into a lower standard of schooling just for a few extra pounds. Sorry you had a crap education kids but it was all to stop me feeling inferior on truck net
I will be the first to admit that no part of driving a lorry is rocket science but to drive 4 hours up the road and 4 hours back with a trailer swap in the middle and repeat 5 times a week is up there with watching paint dry as mental stimulation wouldn’t consider doing your job for at least £200 a run to compensate for all the brain cells that are dying on each trip through lack of use.
As to Rob’ s comment about living the dream doing Europe, at 50 I think I am old enough to know the reality of this job but given the choice of UK multi drop work or one hit into Europe and one hit back out plus the more appreciative attitude of goods in and out staff on the continent I know which I would take but with the vast experience you two have of Europe you would know this anyway
Dave000:
From Perth to Aberdeen the police don’t give a crap about trucks. I have been passed loads by them on that road while doing 56 and never been pulled
Dave000:
From Perth to Aberdeen the police don’t give a crap about trucks. I have been passed loads by them on that road while doing 56 and never been pulled
I fear that you have missed my point!
The point is some people just want to get on with there day, and doing 56 on a dual carriageway isnt dangerous in England so it cant be in Scotland so that side of your argument is a non starter
dozy:
£8.00 something a hour last week , I didn’t do it for the firm ,I did it for me as I wanted to get back to a place with toilets ,sink to wash in etc ( showers bust ) ,I also did it last shift flat to the floor board as 4 nights out was enough for me ,I just wanted to get home asap
People drive lorries for £8 odd an hour■■?
I put a C.V in to King Transport a year odd back, was driving the other day and my phone went off. Pulled up and called back, bloke called Mac I think, he asks if I’m looking for work, I said not really as I’m sorted but what can you offer. He sings praises about firm, Kind of work, security, own truck etc and then the bombshell, 8 quid an hour no paid breaks and 9 quid overtime, that’s driving class 1. Dear ■■■■■■■ me, I genuinely know a lad labouring on a building site for 10 quid and he’s sweeping up and loading out etc. 2 quid more, for a job you can walk into instead of spending 3000+. Absolute madness and firms like these need to shape up quick, it’s immoral paying those wages as the taxpayer will inevitably pick up the bill via tax credits as no right minded person would choose to earn that money when you can go 2 miles down the road and earn 10 quod + at yodel trunking
mazzer:
LOL therefore the wages in England must be brilliant, because there is no shortage of Englishmen asking to work for Irish outfits!!!
There is indeed no shortage of dumbasses from England too stupid to do the maths. They have to work for Irish outfits because no UK haulier would touch them. They’re certainly not doing it for the money.
get in with the right person and you will be fine currently on a trip to France for £120 a day maybe peanuts to you big men in the south of England but for a 4 day week not to be sniffed at
£120 a day “if you get in with the right person” running to France from Ireland? Wow, just wow. I really don’t know what to say about that. Its not just peanuts to those in the south of England, its peanuts throughout the whole of England. Does it even make national minimum wage here in the UK? With the amount of time spent on ferries and including loading/unloading its going to be max hours. Even driving for Reed Boardall who are known for not being good payers you’d get paid more than £120 for that. I work for Hull wages which, if you don’t know, are crap. I currently drive from Howden up to Lockerbie Truckstop, wait for the Scots driver, do a trailer changeover, drive back, take the straps off, fuel the motor up, take 11hrs to do it and I get paid £115.50 to do that. I’m not expected to run bent and I’m home in my bed every day.
I see you are in Yorkshire not exactly a county that tops the pay leagues for haulage in the UK as several threads on here would testify so I would say your job is bit of an exception rather than the rule. Yes I could move to England to earn an extra 10 or 20 pound a day but I think the higher mortgage would soon swallow that plus do I want to put my children into a lower standard of schooling just for a few extra pounds. Sorry you had a crap education kids but it was all to stop me feeling inferior on truck net
I will be the first to admit that no part of driving a lorry is rocket science but to drive 4 hours up the road and 4 hours back with a trailer swap in the middle and repeat 5 times a week is up there with watching paint dry as mental stimulation wouldn’t consider doing your job for at least £200 a run to compensate for all the brain cells that are dying on each trip through lack of use.
As to Rob’ s comment about living the dream doing Europe, at 50 I think I am old enough to know the reality of this job but given the choice of UK multi drop work or one hit into Europe and one hit back out plus the more appreciative attitude of goods in and out staff on the continent I know which I would take but with the vast experience you two have of Europe you would know this anyway
+1 what price do you put on cannon fodder braindead boredom. the most absolute worst case scenario gridlock Belfast/Dublin style is a walk in the park compared to the uk greif,either stick to Ireland,or straight over to euroland works best for some job satisfaction and any degree of quality in your working day.obviously theres others that cant wait to jump into their axor,light her up to 52 on the cruise and watch their brain cells melt by the passing mile.