Genuine question.
Stop being forced into doing overtime.
Stop being scared to say no.
It’s not difficult, honestly…
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I doubt there’s many drivers contacts that say your hours of work are.
They usually say hours of work are as and when company requires. Within.the hgv working time directive Etc.
So in a way we’re not working forced to do overtime and can’t complain. Really…
The reality is different though. Noble cause though…
But basically you want me to down tools after nine hours (contracted hours) and sleep where I am instead of getting back to yard in say one hour?
Not feasible is it?
It comes with the job. If you want that there’s plenty of other jobs where overtime is not expected. But there’s a balance between doing a bit and allowing yourself to be run ragged and right up to the max.
For the record I worked airside at Manchester airport for 15 years in the 90s.
On 40 hrs a week.
Overtime was expected during busy periods or when flights started arriving late. Etc.
But was paid at time and.half.
And during quieter times in winter mostly we were sent home.an hour early on days when everything was covered and paid for it.
I understand all what you say and am not so pedantic/stupid to suggest that if you’re 1 hour away from the yard that the vehicle should be parked up.
If you are back in the yard at any time close to clocking off, don’t accept a run that will force you into overtime if you don’t want to do it.
I think I’m fighting a losing battle here though…
Drivers are their own worst enemies unfortunately
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Its the loading and unloading that dictates the overtime, you cant just pull off with your trailer half loaded or unloaded on 8 hours. So not really a feasible thing to do. The long hours waiting around and the job go hand in hand. I will certainly show willing to do a reduced to get home. Its not really about being your own worst enemy, its the fact you have to accept that this job requires long hours.
Roverman:
Genuine question.Stop being forced into doing overtime.
Stop being scared to say no.
It’s not difficult, honestly…
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As I’ve said to a few bosses I don’t do extra you don’t pay me for extra.
You do it.
Il have my day off
Only reason for attitude is they take the ■■■■.
I always give them benefit of doubt, nope wage light next again week
Learned my lesson.
Roverman:
Genuine question.Stop being forced into doing overtime.
Stop being scared to say no.
It’s not difficult, honestly…
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They don’t want to stop! They need all the hours they can get to pay for their lifestyle of choosing to live beyond their means. The wailing that would happen if you capped the week to 40 hours would be deafening.
edd1974:
I worked airside at Manchester airport for 15 years in the 90s
That’s a lot of overtime!
DCPCFML:
Roverman:
Genuine question.Stop being forced into doing overtime.
Stop being scared to say no.
It’s not difficult, honestly…
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They don’t want to stop! They need all the hours they can get to pay for their lifestyle of choosing to live beyond their means. The wailing that would happen if you capped the week to 40 hours would be deafening.
40 hours a week would be great for me.
Done my 120 hour weeks 
Daf245:
DCPCFML:
Roverman:
Genuine question.Stop being forced into doing overtime.
Stop being scared to say no.
It’s not difficult, honestly…
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They don’t want to stop! They need all the hours they can get to pay for their lifestyle of choosing to live beyond their means. The wailing that would happen if you capped the week to 40 hours would be deafening.
40 hours a week would be great for me.
Done my 120 hour weeks
Me too. Happy with my 45, but understand the way it goes I’ll go over that. Tomorrow is a 12hr ish day. Fine, no probs. But anything else “extra” is a no.
If your business involves expensive machinery, you need to keep it working as much as you can. In a factory, you can work shifts; with drivers, it’s not so easy.
Whenever you send a truck out you can never be sure how long the job will take, and until it’s finished, the ruck is unavailable for anything else. If drivers were limited to eight-hour days and forty-hour weeks, it would mean that the truck could well spend over 75% of its time standing idle. You could have a second driver but that pretty much doubles the cost.
The driver shortage and consequent pay rises will soon be reflected in cost-of-living increases which will wipe out the benefit of the higher wage. I predict a huge increase in the volume of goods being carried by pallet networks because they can maximise the use of their vehicles. There will also be more pressure to dispense with the driver altogether.
When I was on days I’d do a extra shift , tramping no chance , 5 days , 70 hrs & nights out was enough , even when I went on 4 days , 55 hrs ish , nights out I did none , last job was nights , finishing 3/4 sat morn , again had enough (but was never asked to be fair)
I’ve no issue with drivers doing extra shifts , b/h & volunteering to run in , it’s the , everyone else’s fault they have to do it Bar them , aparrently the tearasses ate the worst offenders ( me being one ) , we somehow cause them to work a b/h , extra shift etc ,I guess we will get head billing in there divorce case
I don’t think being planned for 11 hours and working 12 and a 1/4 is too much of a problem in transport, and is to be expected due to the unpredictable nature of transport. But being planned for 15, with that planning being far too optimistic, is what I find unacceptable. It would be wise to hand the notes back and demand a different plan with less hours before you even put your tacho in in the morning in that scenario.
ezydriver:
I don’t think being planned for 11 hours and working 12 and a 1/4 is too much of a problem in transport, and is to be expected due to the unpredictable nature of transport. But being planned for 15, with that planning being far too optimistic, is what I find unacceptable. It would be wise to hand the notes back and demand a different plan with less hours before you even put your tacho in in the morning in that scenario.
Or with a planned 15hr day, work a bit over 13hrs, find somewhere to park, and night out. Book off, and phone turned off.
Franglais:
ezydriver:
I don’t think being planned for 11 hours and working 12 and a 1/4 is too much of a problem in transport, and is to be expected due to the unpredictable nature of transport. But being planned for 15, with that planning being far too optimistic, is what I find unacceptable. It would be wise to hand the notes back and demand a different plan with less hours before you even put your tacho in in the morning in that scenario.Or with a planned 15hr day, work a bit over 13hrs, find somewhere to park, and night out. Book off, and phone turned off.
I would, but the stains on the bunk always look so… dubious.