Wheel Nut:
Just to add I remember a multiple page discussion on the definition of the word “within”
Yep … I remember avoiding that thread to
That same thread had one member who still insists that the wording in one rule related to similar wording in another rule so there are places in the regs where the wording could be made better
The thread on where rest periods can or cannot be taken is another example where I believe the wording does not match the intention
Wheel Nut:
Just to add I remember a multiple page discussion on the definition of the word “within”
Yep … I remember avoiding that thread to
That same thread had one member who still insists that the wording in one rule related to similar wording in another rule so there are places in the regs where the wording could be made better
The thread on where rest periods can or cannot be taken is another example where I believe the wording does not match the intention
Only for people who don’t have English as a first language. Otherwise it is clear enough.
It also helps if the reader doesn’t get confused by and uses terms such as working week
Thank you for that.
Perhaps you can pass this on to VOSA.
Note: An actual working week starts at the end of a weekly rest period, and finishes when another
weekly rest period is commenced, which may mean that weekly rest is taken in the middle of a fixed
(Monday—Sunday) week. This is perfectly acceptable — the working week is not required to be aligned
with the ‘fixed’ week defined in the rules, provided all the relevant limits are complied with.
Alternatively, a driver can take a reduced weekly rest period of a minimum of 24 consecutive hours. If a
reduction is taken, it must be compensated for by an equivalent period of rest taken in one block before
the end of the third week following the week in question. The compensating rest must be attached to a
period of rest of at least 9 hours — in effect either a weekly or a daily rest period
Taken from their definitive guide.
I take your point about Sunday, now I fully understand what you were getting at, however, the driver in the example would still be stuck for 24 hours, much better than 45 I suppose and easily avoided by a bit of forward planning.
I am new to this forum and only in my 38th year of driving.
I can still learn something new most days and be wrong more often.
It also helps if the reader doesn’t get confused by and uses terms such as working week
Thank you for that.
Perhaps you can pass this on to VOSA.
Note: An actual working week starts at the end of a weekly rest period, and finishes when another
weekly rest period is commenced, which may mean that weekly rest is taken in the middle of a fixed
(Monday—Sunday) week. This is perfectly acceptable — the working week is not required to be aligned
with the ‘fixed’ week defined in the rules, provided all the relevant limits are complied with.
Alternatively, a driver can take a reduced weekly rest period of a minimum of 24 consecutive hours. If a
reduction is taken, it must be compensated for by an equivalent period of rest taken in one block before
the end of the third week following the week in question. The compensating rest must be attached to a
period of rest of at least 9 hours — in effect either a weekly or a daily rest period
Taken from their definitive guide.
That is from a guide that is a dumbed down explanation of the rules for the terminally bewildered and has about as much legal relevance as The Highway Code does, and doesn’t alter the fact the actual articles which comprise the regulations do not mention a working week. None of the regulations are built around a working week and all driving limits and weekly rest requirements deal with the fixed week.