To be fair it was always a dirty fuel compared to petrol.
Technology has now closed the gap between petrol engine efficiency v diesel combined with catalytic converters is much more cost effective than all the emissions crap that has to be applied and maintained regarding diesel engines.
There’s no real case for diesel now when it’s not difficult to convert diesel engines to spark ignition running on LPG.
While he’s obviously not spouting the type of zealotry that we’re seeing here.It’s clearly a fair and measured response.
It’s obviously far better to reach that type of compromise in agreeing that diesel is dirty and obsolete and costs more to clean up than the few extra mpg is worth.
But that shouldn’t provide an excuse to ban all fossil fuel use and Internal Combustion engines in general.
While the diesel luddites are just providing ammunition to the nuclear and tree burning EV agenda.In which case they won’t settle for the spark ignition conversion they’ll want the whole engine to be removed and destroyed and replaced by an electric motor. 
Euro 7 will kill it off when it starts in 2025 but in the meantime it will get a lot more expensive as the EU is extending the blocs carbon market to include road transport 
euractiv.com/section/transp … buildings/
lancpudn:
Euro 7 will kill it off when it starts in 2025 but in the meantime it will get a lot more expensive as the EU is extending the blocs carbon market to include road transport
Which translates as it’s all about who burns it not let’s not burn it.No oil and gas wells are going to be capped any time soon.It’s a scam to create a captive market for the likes of EDF and appeasing ‘developing’ countries like …China.So we give them our cash for imports of their stuff of which they’ll kickback a few bob to ‘buy’ ‘carbon credits’ so they can burn as much cheap safe fossil fuel as they want.
Until a nuclear plant goes bang in Europe in a big way.Then all bets are off for these eco scammers when they have to face the resulting justified backlash.Radioactive pollution won’t stop at the Franco German border and France is a largely agricultural based economy.
Carryfast:
lancpudn:
Euro 7 will kill it off when it starts in 2025 but in the meantime it will get a lot more expensive as the EU is extending the blocs carbon market to include road transportWhich translates as it’s all about who burns it not let’s not burn it.No oil and gas wells are going to be capped any time soon.It’s a scam to create a captive market for the likes of EDF and appeasing ‘developing’ countries like …China.So we give them our cash for imports of their stuff of which they’ll kickback a few bob to ‘buy’ ‘carbon credits’ so they can burn as much cheap safe fossil fuel as they want.
Until a nuclear plant goes bang in Europe in a big way.Then all bets are off for these eco scammers when they have to face the resulting justified backlash.Radioactive pollution won’t stop at the Franco German border and France is a largely agricultural based economy.
The EU are setting up a ‘Border tax’ in July “The carbon border adjustment mechanism, due to be revealed in July, aims to put a price on imports from countries where it is cheaper to pollute, as a way of protecting European manufacturers facing higher carbon costs”. Imports from China,India, Brazil & south Africa are going to be more expensive. euractiv.com/section/energy … order-tax/
lancpudn:
The EU are setting up a ‘Border tax’ in July “The carbon border adjustment mechanism, due to be revealed in July, aims to put a price on imports from countries where it is cheaper to pollute, as a way of protecting European manufacturers facing higher carbon costs”. Imports from China,India, Brazil & south Africa are going to be more expensive. euractiv.com/section/energy … order-tax/
Which will mean that if the UK DARES to import anything from one of the pariah countires then all UK exports to the EU will be similarly taxed. Ve haf vays ov making you do vat ve vant.
cav551:
lancpudn:
The EU are setting up a ‘Border tax’ in July “The carbon border adjustment mechanism, due to be revealed in July, aims to put a price on imports from countries where it is cheaper to pollute, as a way of protecting European manufacturers facing higher carbon costs”. Imports from China,India, Brazil & south Africa are going to be more expensive. euractiv.com/section/energy … order-tax/Which will mean that if the UK DARES to import anything from one of the pariah countires then all UK exports to the EU will be similarly taxed. Ve haf vays ov making you do vat ve vant.
The money will still change hands just as before and oil and gas will still be produced and burnt just as before.
Except in this case we’ll be screwed with a no option choice of nuclear fuelled electric at 16p per kwh + Road fuel duty and 20% VAT.
As opposed to oil and gas at at 12p per kwh including road fuel duty and 20% VAT and gas at 3p per kwh including 5% VAT respectively.
As I said no oil and gas wells are going to be capped any time soon.In fact fossil fuel exploration and production is being increased including UK production.Go figure.
The sheep are being taken for mugs in this scam at the risk of nuclear disaster to add insult to injury. 
cav551:
lancpudn:
The EU are setting up a ‘Border tax’ in July “The carbon border adjustment mechanism, due to be revealed in July, aims to put a price on imports from countries where it is cheaper to pollute, as a way of protecting European manufacturers facing higher carbon costs”. Imports from China,India, Brazil & south Africa are going to be more expensive. euractiv.com/section/energy … order-tax/Which will mean that if the UK DARES to import anything from one of the pariah countires then all UK exports to the EU will be similarly taxed. Ve haf vays ov making you do vat ve vant.
If we choose to go down a road of different standards they can put tariffs on anything we produce domestically.
It is all in the separation agreement negotiated and signed by Johnson.
That is our free and independent choice to make.
And it is their free and independent choice to buy, or not, from us.
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We can make any choice we want. We cannot dictate to others how they will react to our choices.
Exactly how is importing anything for domestic sale related to EU standards? or are they allowed to ban us from chosing to import eg avocados because little weed macron gets the ■■■■■ when he eats one?
cav551:
Exactly how is importing anything for domestic sale related to EU standards? or are they allowed to ban us from chosing to import eg avocados because little weed macron gets the [zb] when he eats one?
If we import advocados from a “dirty” country, the EU will put tariffs on everything we sell to the EU?
Where is that written?
Or am I misunderstanding you?
Franglais:
cav551:
Exactly how is importing anything for domestic sale related to EU standards? or are they allowed to ban us from chosing to import eg avocados because little weed macron gets the [zb] when he eats one?If we import advocados from a “dirty” country, the EU will put tariffs on everything we sell to the EU?
Where is that written?Or am I misunderstanding you?
No misunderstanding at all. We only have to look at the EU’s actions and threats so far this year. The latest being to cut off electricity supplies. So if the situation was to arise that the UK continued to import EG possibly still available far eastern ICE cars, in the belief of choice for the less well off, when the EU had gone over completely to non ICE, there is no telling what the EU might do or threaten; they have the track record. Who would have believed only a few months ago that the EU would jackboot into factories and threaten to take over vaccine production and intellectual property rights or ban its export? yet they have done exactly that.
cav551:
Franglais:
cav551:
Exactly how is importing anything for domestic sale related to EU standards? or are they allowed to ban us from chosing to import eg avocados because little weed macron gets the [zb] when he eats one?If we import advocados from a “dirty” country, the EU will put tariffs on everything we sell to the EU?
Where is that written?Or am I misunderstanding you?
No misunderstanding at all. We only have to look at the EU’s actions and threats so far this year. The latest being to cut off electricity supplies. So if the situation was to arise that the UK continued to import EG possibly still available far eastern ICE cars, in the belief of choice for the less well off, when the EU had gone over completely to non ICE, there is no telling what the EU might do or threaten; they have the track record. Who would have believed only a few months ago that the EU would jackboot into factories and threaten to take over vaccine production and intellectual property rights or ban its export? yet they have done exactly that.
The electricity supplied by the French to The Channel Isles?
That wasnt the EU but the French. I dont think Brussels had anything to do with that. Maybe the ECJ might have been a useful arbiter in this case?
The EU jackbooting into factories wasnt that the Italian national government? Allegedly ensuring that their own citizens had vaccines? Good or bad? Should medicine distribution be a matter for private companies? Shouldnt a national Gov look after its citizens before a private companys profits?
Other Governments have been looking at vaccine as security issue including other potential trading partners of ours.
mondaq.com/unitedstates/gov … -in-the-us
Franglais:
cav551:
Exactly how is importing anything for domestic sale related to EU standards? or are they allowed to ban us from chosing to import eg avocados because little weed macron gets the [zb] when he eats one?If we import advocados from a “dirty” country, the EU will put tariffs on everything we sell to the EU?
Where is that written?Or am I misunderstanding you?
You’re clearly inferring that EU control freakery shoiuld apply to anything we import for our domestic market.If not what’s your problem.No one is suggesting exporting anything from here to the EU that doesn’t meet its standards that’s obviously not possible.
In which case remind me why can’t we import NZ spec trucks fitted with ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ driveline for the domestic marketnot subject to EU type approval now that we are supposedly a ‘non’ EU member state ?.
Or relevant to the topic why should we as a major oil and gas producer subject ourselves to dependence on dangerous expensive French nuclear energy while exporting our fossil fuel to enemy states like bleedin China.
Carryfast:
Franglais:
cav551:
Exactly how is importing anything for domestic sale related to EU standards? or are they allowed to ban us from chosing to import eg avocados because little weed macron gets the [zb] when he eats one?If we import advocados from a “dirty” country, the EU will put tariffs on everything we sell to the EU?
Where is that written?Or am I misunderstanding you?
You’re clearly inferring that EU control freakery shoiuld apply to anything we import for our domestic market.If not what’s your problem.No one is suggesting exporting anything from here to the EU that doesn’t meet its standards that’s obviously not possible.
In which case remind me why can’t we import NZ spec trucks fitted with ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■ driveline for the domestic marketnot subject to EU type approval now that we are supposedly a ‘non’ EU member state ?.
Or relevant to the topic why should we as a major oil and gas producer subject ourselves to dependence on dangerous expensive French nuclear energy while exporting our fossil fuel to enemy states like bleedin China.
Carryfast:
You’re clearly inferring that EU control freakery shoiuld apply to anything we import for our domestic market
I think that CAV551 is saying that is, or could in the future be the case?
Carryfast:
remind me why can’t we import NZ spec trucks
As I understand it we can import vehicles that conform to UK specs. Currently we have the same specs as the EU, but if we choose our own specs we can do that, if those vehicles conform. Given the UK gov position on IC engines, pollution etc, it don`t see probable in the near future.
And the expense of setting up a coherent set of vehicle specifications, (and expecting any manufacturer to comply with such if they are significantly different from any other major market) is again unlikely, IMHO.
If we are dependent on the French for our electricity, who is to blame for our lack of investment in production over the last few decades?
Are you gonna blame Macron or Merkel for the lack of power stations in the UK? Or the CCP?
Or a mutant ■■■■■■■ chimera? (Cheers Switch!)