Yorkshire Tramper:
I have never put my night out allowance in with my wages as it isn’t realistically part of wages, however the deal we got it actually does increase our wages.
When I did nights out I always used to consider my night out allowance to be my “hobby money”. It was paid to enable me to eat decent restaurant meals, and if I chose to eat a Pot Noodle and spend the money on a motorcycle instead then the old woman couldn’t really moan about it. 
Harry Monk:
Yorkshire Tramper:
I have never put my night out allowance in with my wages as it isn’t realistically part of wages, however the deal we got it actually does increase our wages.When I did nights out I always used to consider my night out allowance to be my “hobby money”. It was paid to enable me to eat decent restaurant meals, and if I chose to eat a Pot Noodle and spend the money on a motorcycle instead then the old woman couldn’t really moan about it.
Exactly Harry, if working longish hours enough to warrant nights out doesn’t pay enough to enjoy a decent dinner plus a pint to wash it down and a decent breakfast its time to find another job.
Harry Monk:
DCPCFML:
With 99% of agencies you don’t get a perm contract in terms of work provision. You get offered the work at x rate, take it or leave it. £10/hr would be scoffed at by a native Brit, but a Filipino would jump at it. It’s pretty easy to see how quickly the rates would tumble when you suddenly get an influx of cheap labour and agencies are in competition with each other.I think the current Government are fully aware of the fact that they are only in power (and the 2016 referendum produced a Brexit result) because the electorate were fed up with having their wages driven downwards by cheap imported labour. Flooding the labour market with even cheaper Filipino labour would not be a vote winner.
Come om Harry, you’re brighter than this.
Since when has voting made any difference? It’s the same bunch of globalists behind the curtain. They’re just sat there dangling a puppet wearing a red rosette in one hand and a puppet wearing a blue rosette in the other. The idea behind it is to keep the masses divided and give them the illusion that they have some control over their destiny by choosing their leader. There is no choice. The decisions are made by them - you have no say in the matter. Voting is for suckers. They tell you what you want to hear, you vote them in, they win, then they do whatever their puppet-masters tell them. People never learn.
DCPCFML:
Come om Harry, you’re brighter than this.Since when has voting made any difference? It’s the same bunch of globalists behind the curtain. They’re just sat there dangling a puppet wearing a red rosette in one hand and a puppet wearing a blue rosette in the other. The idea behind it is to keep the masses divided and give them the illusion that they have some control over their destiny by choosing their leader. There is no choice. The decisions are made by them - you have no say in the matter. Voting is for suckers. They tell you what you want to hear, you vote them in, they win, then they do whatever their puppet-masters tell them. People never learn.
To a degree you are right, but the ever increasing number of votes for UKIP was what forced Cameron to offer a referendum on eu membership and the vote in that referendum was why we left the eu and why we are seeing the current pay rises.
Harry Monk:
When I did nights out I always used to consider my night out allowance to be my “hobby money”. It was paid to enable me to eat decent restaurant meals, and if I chose to eat a Pot Noodle and spend the money on a motorcycle instead then the old woman couldn’t really moan about it.
Yes fully agree, night out money is your money to do whatever you want with, eat drink and be merry or put it towards a holiday. Ether way a great analogy “hobby money” If not on a night out then you don’t get it, so it isnt actually forming part of your wages.
Some years ago, when i was working full time for Co-op. They cut the agency rates by 50p p/h. No discussion, no negotiation and no comeback. That was the new rate, take it or leave it. As a full timer, I did feel bad for the agency drivers but there were plenty of full time jobs going at the depot if they wanted them. Seems they were still happier on agency as I don’t remember any of them going temp to perm.
As for night out money being or not being taxed, there is a tax-free allowance of £36.40 allowable. I believe it’s claimed back via your self assessment.
Just quit a class 2 job friday, been there 6 years on nights. They used to pay a nightshift allowance but earlier this year they asked the night drops for £15 per drop per night. 90%of them said no. So no more nights. Then they removed our night allowance which was 2k a year but still expected me to start at 4. Got a sniff @another job and offski. £4 per hour more on the agency. Got class 1 booked for August but I’m literally willing to walk away from the industry @any time. You’ve got to be willing to walk away. No jobs for life anymore boys.
I’m happy enough. I’ve got more than enough to pay bills, enjoy life, enjoy holidays and put away for a rainy day. Genuinely don’t care what others get, never have and never will.
toonsy:
I’m happy enough. I’ve got more than enough to pay bills, enjoy life, enjoy holidays and put away for a rainy day. Genuinely don’t care what others get, never have and never will.
Hope you’ll enjoy this? Good lyrics.
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It doesn’t matter if your permanent or agency, on good money or bad, we`ll be hated by the public even more when the price of bread, milk, beer and crisps goes up due to driver shortage. 
Imagine the headlines,
Shelves empty as greedy truckers demand more
Juggernaut driver get multiple wage rises while our NHS gets a measly 1%
Are the prices really going to rise that much?
I spoke with an owner driver recently, he told me there’s not much change from a grand a day running a truck and trailer,so,if they have to pay us 5k a year extra,that’s small change,is it not…
pig pen:
It doesn’t matter if your permanent or agency, on good money or bad, we`ll be hated by the public even more when the price of bread, milk, beer and crisps goes up due to driver shortage.Imagine the headlines,
Shelves empty as greedy truckers demand more
Juggernaut driver get multiple wage rises while our NHS gets a measly 1%
So what??..Do you really care.?
That has always been used as an excuse to keep our wages down…‘‘Prices will rise’’.
So why should we have to subsidise prices by taking low wages, let some other industry up the supply chain take it on their backs for a change.
Juddian:
Harry Monk:
Yorkshire Tramper:
I have never put my night out allowance in with my wages as it isn’t realistically part of wages, however the deal we got it actually does increase our wages.When I did nights out I always used to consider my night out allowance to be my “hobby money”. It was paid to enable me to eat decent restaurant meals, and if I chose to eat a Pot Noodle and spend the money on a motorcycle instead then the old woman couldn’t really moan about it.
Exactly Harry, if working longish hours enough to warrant nights out doesn’t pay enough to enjoy a decent dinner plus a pint to wash it down and a decent breakfast its time to find another job.
I agree with all of that, I’ve never considered n/o money as part of what I earn, or part of my wage to go in the ‘kitty’…it’s my bit extra to do wtf I like with it.
I think most trampers ignore the night out money as far as wages go, the ones who seem to consider the night out money as or included in wages are usually the ones who don’t tramp.
Yorkshire Tramper:
Daf245:
A 90 day notice is as it sounds, to alter terms conditions and working routine.
Sign or sack youreself
Not rocket science is as it says 90 daysYou’re right there, it isn’t rocket science. No 90 days consent is written into my contract to state that they can alter anything? Mine is a Union collective contract. T&Cs and wages cannot be lowered within the contract length. No ifs or buts.
Employment law states that a contract of employment cannot be altered without the agreement of the worker. A company cannot unilaterally decide to alter an employment contract. This is nothing to do with union collective contracts, this is statutory law.
The only option available to an employer if they want to alter the terms and the worker doesn’t agree with it is to make the position redundant under the current terms, pay redundancy pay if the employee is entitled to at least statutory redundancy pay, and re-hire the employee under new terms if they agree. If the employee doesn’t agree to the new terms they have to go find another job.
robroy:
pig pen:
It doesn’t matter if your permanent or agency, on good money or bad, we`ll be hated by the public even more when the price of bread, milk, beer and crisps goes up due to driver shortage.Imagine the headlines,
Shelves empty as greedy truckers demand more
Juggernaut driver get multiple wage rises while our NHS gets a measly 1%So what??..Do you really care.?
That has always been used as an excuse to keep our wages down…‘‘Prices will rise’’.
So why should we have to subsidise prices by taking low wages, let some other industry up the supply chain take it on their backs for a change.
No It was a tongue in cheek comment
Conor:
The only option available to an employer if they want to alter the terms and the worker doesn’t agree with it is to make the position redundant under the current terms, pay redundancy pay if the employee is entitled to at least statutory redundancy pay, and re-hire the employee under new terms if they agree. If the employee doesn’t agree to the new terms they have to go find another job.
This could be construed as unfair dismissal rather than a genuine case of having to make the emplloyee redundant. It would be a very difficult card to play as a tribuneral would not look favourably towards the employer if this had no adequate time lapse.
Yorkshire Tramper:
I think most trampers ignore the night out money as far as wages go, the ones who seem to consider the night out money as or included in wages are usually the ones who don’t tramp.
When I worked direct for stobarts you were given a £15 meal allowance per day which was more than enough for a gingsters pasty & a can of lilt ( I never had these but apparently according to a fair few on here that was my daily rations) so yes the £22.50 was imho part of my wages , unless you believe I’d spend £37.50 per day on food
Yorkshire Tramper:
Conor:
The only option available to an employer if they want to alter the terms and the worker doesn’t agree with it is to make the position redundant under the current terms, pay redundancy pay if the employee is entitled to at least statutory redundancy pay, and re-hire the employee under new terms if they agree. If the employee doesn’t agree to the new terms they have to go find another job.This could be construed as unfair dismissal rather than a genuine case of having to make the emplloyee redundant. It would be a very difficult card to play as a tribuneral would not look favourably towards the employer if this had no adequate time lapse.
I’ve had 2 90 days notice in my time
Yet again
You sign or get another job.
pig pen:
It doesn’t matter if your permanent or agency, on good money or bad, we`ll be hated by the public even more when the price of bread, milk, beer and crisps goes up due to driver shortage.Imagine the headlines,
Shelves empty as greedy truckers demand more
Juggernaut driver get multiple wage rises while our NHS gets a measly 1%
Nonsense 
