How long before notified of caught speeding

I’m with pig pen here, if it’s a hand held gun there’s normally a car down the road to pull the offenders over and hand over the written invitation to be the star attraction at a public flogging. However seeing as rob has confessed I’m sure he will hand himself in at his local police station :slight_smile: just as I would if I could find one that is actually open :grimacing:

Reef:
No idea of the validity of this…

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My county is not on the list but they are well known locally for zero tolerance - apparently they nick ambulances on a blue light job and only let them off when written evidence is presented - make the Taliban look like Trumpton. :open_mouth:

So when in Dorset beware.

Socketset:
My county is not on the list but they are well known locally for zero tolerance - apparently they nick ambulances on a blue light job and only let them off when written evidence is presented.

I have never heard so much tosh, where on earth have you heard that?

Emergency vehicles are not going to be pulled over for being on blue lights. If emergency vehicles get flashed by a camera then yes they get a NIP the same as everyone else but they have to have written proof of being on a blue light call and have to justify the speed used for that particular scenario.

simcor:

Socketset:
My county is not on the list but they are well known locally for zero tolerance - apparently they nick ambulances on a blue light job and only let them off when written evidence is presented.

I have never heard so much tosh, where on earth have you heard that?

Emergency vehicles are not going to be pulled over for being on blue lights. If emergency vehicles get flashed by a camera then yes they get a NIP the same as everyone else but they have to have written proof of being on a blue light call and have to justify the speed used for that particular scenario.

Not sure if it’s just me, but a lot of emergency services vehicles seem to have a permanent blue light on the back. I’d assumed this would make it easier to confirm they were on a shout.

Nite Owl:

simcor:

Socketset:
My county is not on the list but they are well known locally for zero tolerance - apparently they nick ambulances on a blue light job and only let them off when written evidence is presented.

I have never heard so much tosh, where on earth have you heard that?

Emergency vehicles are not going to be pulled over for being on blue lights. If emergency vehicles get flashed by a camera then yes they get a NIP the same as everyone else but they have to have written proof of being on a blue light call and have to justify the speed used for that particular scenario.

Not sure if it’s just me, but a lot of emergency services vehicles seem to have a permanent blue light on the back. I’d assumed this would make it easier to confirm they were on a shout.

My ex-BiL was a fireman and he said that whenever they went past a speed camera when they were on a shout, they used to stick their bums out of the nearside windows.

If there was a car in front of you, hopefully your plate would have been obscured by them, and they would have been the ones getting caught…

35 in a 30 though■■? Border line I think…

36, deffo a S/A course, anything over I’m guessing straight to points and a fine…

2 things here though… (and merely a guess at the first one…)

Cameras can only do you one at a time - one after another, not ‘at the same time’, as it needs to check and register the speed of each vehicle…

And the new cameras can do you at a MILE away! :open_mouth: Not the old 1000metres (0.6 of a mile).

I saw an article online a while back, they showed you the lens and it looked like what you see the paps use to spy on celebs!

bond.jpgafter getting caught twice at just over 30mph i started to seriously consider rigging up a james bond rotating false plates, switched over on if i was going on a long journey out of my area

^^^this ,other methods are available too :open_mouth:

Socketset:
My county is not on the list but they are well known locally for zero tolerance - apparently they nick ambulances on a blue light job and only let them off when written evidence is presented - make the Taliban look like Trumpton. :open_mouth:

So when in Dorset beware.

Same in just about every other County - any speed camera activation by an emergency vehicle (not just ambulances) has to be confirmed as being a genuine emergency by the relevant authority. The confirmation must be in writing (a phone call won’t do) in order to establish a paper trail showing who/what was authorised. This is pretty straightforward for ambulance and fire vehicles due to the way they are generally only deployed in response to a specific call.

simcor:

Socketset:
My county is not on the list but they are well known locally for zero tolerance - apparently they nick ambulances on a blue light job and only let them off when written evidence is presented.

I have never heard so much tosh, where on earth have you heard that?

Emergency vehicles are not going to be pulled over for being on blue lights. If emergency vehicles get flashed by a camera then yes they get a NIP the same as everyone else but they have to have written proof of being on a blue light call and have to justify the speed used for that particular scenario.

Thanks sim for your last paragraph confirming what I had said :unamused:

eurotrans:
if it’s a hand held gun there’s normally a car down the road to pull the offenders over

I used to think this too but a bloke at work has since proved me wrong.
He went past a copper who was walking along the roadside, towards him, with the hand held speed gun down by his side.
Workmate then speeds up before going into 40 limit :confused: , looks in his mirror to see copper now pointing speed gun at him.
Less than a week later he gets a NIP through the post and instructions on how to see the photographic evidence.

Johneboy:

eurotrans:
if it’s a hand held gun there’s normally a car down the road to pull the offenders over

I used to think this too but a bloke at work has since proved me wrong.
He went past a copper who was walking along the roadside, towards him, with the hand held speed gun down by his side.
Workmate then speeds up before going into 40 limit :confused: , looks in his mirror to see copper now pointing speed gun at him.
Less than a week later he gets a NIP through the post and instructions on how to see the photographic evidence.

To be fair Johneboy the bloke at work took the ■■■■, didn’t behave himself with a copper ( a rare sight indeed on foot) in view, and the copper got him.
How many times have we, in the past when the roads were more open, been going like hell and seen a copper parked at the roadside, but what we all did was at least lift off the throttle to cut the noise down even if we didn’t actually brake…this showed the copper we had seen him and showed some respect for him… and it worked.

Juddian:

Johneboy:

eurotrans:
if it’s a hand held gun there’s normally a car down the road to pull the offenders over

I used to think this too but a bloke at work has since proved me wrong.
He went past a copper who was walking along the roadside, towards him, with the hand held speed gun down by his side.
Workmate then speeds up before going into 40 limit :confused: , looks in his mirror to see copper now pointing speed gun at him.
Less than a week later he gets a NIP through the post and instructions on how to see the photographic evidence.

To be fair Johneboy the bloke at work took the ■■■■, didn’t behave himself with a copper ( a rare sight indeed on foot) in view, and the copper got him.
How many times have we, in the past when the roads were more open, been going like hell and seen a copper parked at the roadside, but what we all did was at least lift off the throttle to cut the noise down even if we didn’t actually brake…this showed the copper we had seen him and showed some respect for him… and it worked.

Completely agree with you and so would my mate.
What ■■■■■■ him off was his own stupidity at speeding up before he got into the new speed limit. Something we’re probably all guilty of but he did it with a copper watching.
Problem was that we were all telling him not to worry because if it was a hand held device he would have to of been pulled immediately or a little further down the road.
Imagine his surprise when he received a NIP and ours when he came in telling us we know nowt :laughing:

simcor:
The usual replies of you have to have a NIP within 14 days is absolute tosh.

The force only has to issue (I. E post it within 14 days of the offence) a NIP within that period, in other words it has to be posted. It doesn’t have to be sent via recorded post to prove it has arrived. It is deemed that posted it has arrived.

This bit is mostly “tosh”… a postal NIP for speeding must
be served on the registered keeper within 14 days of the offence (that’s the law). While it is deemed served 2 working days after posting via 1st class post, if the defendant can prove it was received later than 14 days then a prosecution cannot succeed.

Proving it is the problem but it can be done…

David Beckham did it, it may have cost him & not many can afford Nick Freeman but the law is still the same for everyone bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-45668735

Received outwith 14 days = no case to answer! It doesn’t matter when they posted it.

Socketset:

simcor:

Socketset:
My county is not on the list but they are well known locally for zero tolerance - apparently they nick ambulances on a blue light job and only let them off when written evidence is presented.

I have never heard so much tosh, where on earth have you heard that?

Emergency vehicles are not going to be pulled over for being on blue lights. If emergency vehicles get flashed by a camera then yes they get a NIP the same as everyone else but they have to have written proof of being on a blue light call and have to justify the speed used for that particular scenario.

Thanks sim for your last paragraph confirming what I had said :unamused:

Sorry misunderstood your post.

To me being nicked means being physically pulled over and nicked.

Hence what I misunderstood what you were saying, after reading again telaise what you meant.

So yeah at least I confirmed what you were saying.

Melchett:

simcor:
The usual replies of you have to have a NIP within 14 days is absolute tosh.

The force only has to issue (I. E post it within 14 days of the offence) a NIP within that period, in other words it has to be posted. It doesn’t have to be sent via recorded post to prove it has arrived. It is deemed that posted it has arrived.

This bit is mostly “tosh”… a postal NIP for speeding must
be served on the registered keeper within 14 days of the offence (that’s the law). While it is deemed served 2 working days after posting via 1st class post, if the defendant can prove it was received later than 14 days then a prosecution cannot succeed.

Proving it is the problem but it can be done…

David Beckham did it, it may have cost him & not many can afford Nick Freeman but the law is still the same for everyone bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-45668735

Received outwith 14 days = no case to answer! It doesn’t matter when they posted it.

Yes there are rare cases if you can prove it hadn’t arrived within the 14 days to the registered keeper but proving it did not arrive is very difficult in 99% of cases.

In the case of a works vehicle especially one that is leased or hired then proving it didn’t arrive within 14 days would be very difficult.

If you do get summoned, maybe you can argue that additional points would make you unable to work as a professional driver. Theres a precedent been set:

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Poor Mr advanced driving police man. My heart bleeds for him and its only right he should get his points dropped to allow him to continue in his job.

Hmmm.

simcor:
Poor Mr advanced driving police man. My heart bleeds for him and its only right he should get his points dropped to allow him to continue in his job.

Hmmm.

Not much of an ‘‘Advanced Driver’’ if he does not understand the basic importance of speed awareness that they presumably try and teach you on these courses…and caught twice ? :open_mouth:
Throw the ■■■■ book at him BECAUSE he’s an ‘‘Advanced Driver’’ from the Police I say… :bulb:
Coppers, Magistrates, Politicians and the like, all ■■■■ in the same pot and have their ugly snouts in the same trough, one rule for them and one for the rest, they’re invincible in cases such as this.

If I eventually get pulled for that camera incident last week, I’ve heard that HGV drivers get ‘‘concentrated on’’ at these speed awareness bs courses, so what’s the difference?
Ok, arguably I should also know better as a pro driver, but at least I aint lording it over other drivers making judgements and telling them where they’re going wrong, and relieving them of a few quid every day like this ■■■■. … ■■■■ hypocrite.

robroy:
I’ve heard that HGV drivers get ‘‘concentrated on’’ at these speed awareness bs courses

They dont.
I speak from experience :blush: