And on and on and and on and on and on and on and on and on and on he goes.
Has it never crossed your mind that maybe your face never fits because you’ve got a s h1t personality*. If in real life you’re a 1% as tedious as you are here…you’ll be soul crushingly tedious
Carryfast:
Yes I had a clue as to why you needed the two Class 1 tests in that regard.You seemed to want to evade the question for some reason.
So desperate to evade it was me that brought it up. Come on chap you do really sound a bit stupid sometimes
Carryfast:
Yeah right so financially well off I’ve now got to re mortgage my parents’ hard earned legacy to stay afloat.
Maybe you shouldn’t have given up work so easily. You’d have been much better off were you not lazy it seems
Carryfast:
In which an ex bus driver class 1 test failure gets fast tracked onto international work by 30
Calling me a bus driver doesn’t bother me, calling me a test failure doesn’t bother me, mentioning that I landed in the ditch doesn’t bother me…you can tell this by working out how you know those facts…I told you and unlike you I’m not ashamed or regretful of anything in my past as there’s no point. Bit of a tip for you there. But sure, let’s go with test failure as the new obsession shall we
*Personality like everything else is totally in your control but you probably blame your cousin twice removed biting you when toddlers for your disastrous mind
OP don’t be put off by Carryfast, give things a go and you may or may not get a foot in the door.
I once offered a job to a 21 year old who wrote in on the off chance. Not tippers, but highly specialist Euro work, top payer in my sector, easy work. He turned me down because some days he might have had to drive a van and preferred to stick with supermarkets - can’t win them all.
What Carryfast means by face fits is that exactly. I suspect the Carryfast we know and love here is the same in real life. Which is why it would have been a no thank you from me.
Good luck, besides skills an employer wants someone that won’t upset the customers, won’t cause trouble with the other drivers and basically is pleasant person, it isnt complicated.
albion:
Good luck, besides skills an employer wants someone that won’t upset the customers, won’t cause trouble with the other drivers and basically is pleasant person, it isnt complicated.
^^^ A comment written by a former employer. It really is that simple and Albion has hit the nail on the head. It’s easy to overthink things and look for conspiracy at every turn, where it simply doesn’t exist.
albion:
Good luck, besides skills an employer wants someone that won’t upset the customers, won’t cause trouble with the other drivers and basically is pleasant person, it isnt complicated.
^^^ A comment written by a former employer. It really is that simple and Albion has hit the nail on the head. It’s easy to overthink things and look for conspiracy at every turn, where it simply doesn’t exist.
100%. There are so many crap personalities in this industry we all love so very dearly
I really enjoyed my stint on hooklift/rolonoff work many years ago, mainly refuse to landfill as it was at the time, you learn a lot with off-road work, nowadays its more intensive recycling work.
Good money, reasonable hours, most of the blokes on the job and the sites are sound, and it don’t matter how deep the snow might be you always get to go home with double drive axles
Normal tippers can be a bit repetitive, leading to boredom.
I’ve done both bulk & aggregate work and found the bulk work a bit more laid back.I enjoyed both and would be happy to go back to either cheers Ray ps carryfast I’m not a member of the “tug of the lug club”
albion:
OP don’t be put off by Carryfast, give things a go and you may or may not get a foot in the door.
I once offered a job to a 21 year old who wrote in on the off chance. Not tippers, but highly specialist Euro work, top payer in my sector, easy work. He turned me down because some days he might have had to drive a van and preferred to stick with supermarkets - can’t win them all.
What Carryfast means by face fits is that exactly. I suspect the Carryfast we know and love here is the same in real life. Which is why it would have been a no thank you from me.
Good luck, besides skills an employer wants someone that won’t upset the customers, won’t cause trouble with the other drivers and basically is pleasant person, it isnt complicated.
Yep just three employers covering virtually all of a 25 year period by being unpleasant to and upsetting everyone who knew me.To the point of switch being upset because my first employer thought enough of me to want to pay for my HGV training after transferring me out of factory work and putting me on the road before I ended up with clinical depression.
Ironically I did think that a negligible minority of my guvnors were more than obnoxious but don’t remember any of them being sacked because of it though.
No what I actually mean by face fits is exactly that.
An industry which thinks nothing of kicking some down the ladder based on the ‘experience’ word.While fast tracking others up it ahead of them on purely abitrary grounds and reasoning.
While telling those who’ve been/are being kicked down it that they need to start at the bottom and work their way up.
I’m not trying to put the OP off at all.I’m doing the total opposite in telling him don’t take no for an answer especially anyone telling him that doing building deliveries of multi drop around the shops will be a guaranteed way of getting a job driving tippers/bulkers or for that matter any type of decent work.
The truth is it’s another relatively coveted sector of the industry, for the reasons which I, among others, have stated.
Which like international work the elites want to keep for themselves and the wording, if not non existence, of the adverts such as I’ve posted and virtual non existence of such work on agencies books proves it.
Feel free to post any which say tippers/roro Bulker drivers wanted new/inexperienced drivers welcome.I’ve obviously backed my claims with facts in that regard.
stargazer148:
I’ve done both bulk & aggregate work and found the bulk work a bit more laid back.I enjoyed both and would be happy to go back to either cheers Ray ps carryfast I’m not a member of the “tug of the lug club”
Whatever the ‘club’ is it’s obviously enough of a ''club to need to qualify just about every advert with ‘experience’ essential assuming there even is an advert.
It’s also enough of a club, like international work, even for those who’ve started later in the industry to be given a break while others who started earlier are told sorry still not enough or the wrong type of ‘experience’.
Strange how it’s always the more coveted sectors of the job where that situation applies.
Ironically even less of an excuse for that in my day when a class 2 licence ( should have ) meant a lot more opportunities in that regard than a class 3 let alone being lumbered with 7.5 t work on agency.
Certainly no reason why I should have found myself stuck on the council for years driving mostly class 3 and below rather than driving 8 wheeler bulkers doing similar work for Bull or Drinkwater.
Total waste of human resources let alone putting class 1 drivers to work on 7.5t/class 3 work and let alone again being used as a site/warehouse labourer causing career ending back injury.Driver shortage bs.
This industry needs a kick up the arris and told to clean up its act regarding how it misuses its human resources.Not people like albion defending the indefensible with unjust unfair aspertions directed against the whistle blower.
albion:
OP don’t be put off by Carryfast, give things a go and you may or may not get a foot in the door.
I once offered a job to a 21 year old who wrote in on the off chance. Not tippers, but highly specialist Euro work, top payer in my sector, easy work. He turned me down because some days he might have had to drive a van and preferred to stick with supermarkets - can’t win them all.
What Carryfast means by face fits is that exactly. I suspect the Carryfast we know and love here is the same in real life. Which is why it would have been a no thank you from me.
Good luck, besides skills an employer wants someone that won’t upset the customers, won’t cause trouble with the other drivers and basically is pleasant person, it isnt complicated.
Yep just three employers covering virtually all of a 25 year period by being unpleasant to and upsetting everyone who knew me.To the point of switch being upset because my first employer thought enough of me to want to pay for my HGV training after transferring me out of factory work and putting me on the road before I ended up with clinical depression.
Ironically I did think that a negligible minority of my guvnors were more than obnoxious but don’t remember any of them being sacked because of it though.
No what I actually mean by face fits is exactly that.
An industry which thinks nothing of kicking some down the ladder based on the ‘experience’ word.While fast tracking others up it ahead of them on purely abitrary grounds and reasoning.
While telling those who’ve been/are being kicked down it that they need to start at the bottom and work their way up.
I’m not trying to put the OP off at all.I’m doing the total opposite in telling him don’t take no for an answer especially anyone telling him that doing building deliveries of multi drop around the shops will be a guaranteed way of getting a job driving tippers/bulkers or for that matter any type of decent work.
The truth is it’s another relatively coveted sector of the industry, for the reasons which I, among others, have stated.
Which like international work the elites want to keep for themselves and the wording, if not non existence, of the adverts such as I’ve posted and virtual non existence of such work on agencies books proves it.
Feel free to post any which say tippers/roro Bulker drivers wanted new/inexperienced drivers welcome.I’ve obviously backed my claims with facts in that regard.
Relying on adverts is where you fell down sir! I’ve only ever taken one advertised job, The Londoners, ad in The Sun’. The rest is phoning up on off chance, keeping ear to the ground, or, and this will make you go into face fits rant- jobs my Dad was doing. Nolan’s was him, first agency him, second agency I introduced Dad to, both my Brother and Dad worked at Virginia, and now MDS Distribution on milk tankers with Dad. (I can hear the furious typing from here!)
I did it for just over A year. Mostly muck away, some quarry work.
There’s definitely that ‘gotta get the loads in’ mentality. In the most part these are not ‘professional’ drivers and I’m glad that job is now behind me. They used to race each other and be a bit ridiculous. I often wince if I see a tipper coming the other way lol
Driving through mud and getting stuck and getting mud everywhere is not my idea of fun, however in terms of driving experience it’s a box ticked…
Nothing wrong with class two tipper work if you cart from the quarries and for a decent gaffer, not much need to chase about like an idiot. I had 20+ years at it and enjoyed it, see what is available in your area and don’t be put off by the negative posters on here.
switchlogic:
Relying on adverts is where you fell down sir! I’ve only ever taken one advertised job, The Londoners, ad in The Sun’. The rest is phoning up on off chance,
Where did I say that I ever relied on adverts.
My longest period of employment on night trunking was the result of cold calling potential employers.
However those adverts I posted provide the OP with a good idea of the type of ‘experience’ bs that infests any half decent sector of the industry.
That’s just tippers let alone the next step up the ladder bulkers obviously rarely any adverts there at all and like tippers won’t be found on any agencies’ books.
switchlogic:
Relying on adverts is where you fell down sir! I’ve only ever taken one advertised job, The Londoners, ad in The Sun’. The rest is phoning up on off chance,
Where did I say that I ever relied on adverts.
My longest period of employment on night trunking was the result of cold calling potential employers.
However those adverts I posted provide the OP with a good idea of the type of ‘experience’ bs that infests any half decent sector of the industry.
That’s just tippers let alone the next step up the ladder bulkers obviously rarely any adverts there at all and like tippers won’t be found on any agencies’ books.
‘Up the ladder’ We’re lorry drivers chap, not lawyers or doctors. We’re all at same level
(The small amount of tipper work I did was agency)
switchlogic:
Relying on adverts is where you fell down sir! I’ve only ever taken one advertised job, The Londoners, ad in The Sun’. The rest is phoning up on off chance,
Where did I say that I ever relied on adverts.
My longest period of employment on night trunking was the result of cold calling potential employers.
However those adverts I posted provide the OP with a good idea of the type of ‘experience’ bs that infests any half decent sector of the industry.
That’s just tippers let alone the next step up the ladder bulkers obviously rarely any adverts there at all and like tippers won’t be found on any agencies’ books.
‘Up the ladder’ We’re lorry drivers chap, not lawyers or doctors. We’re all at same level
(The small amount of tipper work I did was agency)
I’ve never applied for a job in my entire life, always been word and mouth apart from my current job which I was talked in to by a mate, I’m still working for that same company and still operating close coupled drawbar wagon and drags
switchlogic:
‘Up the ladder’ We’re lorry drivers chap, not lawyers or doctors. We’re all at same level
(The small amount of tipper work I did was agency)
A move from driving a scaffolding truck or local hiab building deliveries or multi drop to an 8 wheeler roro Bulker is definitely a move up the ladder unless there’s something seriously wrong with the bulker job.
Tipper/Bulker work on agency when, where, which agency we must be from different planets.
As someone that has done class 2 tipper work on both sides o the pond for many yrs. I found the main thing was to drive your own truck don’t worry about anyone else as long as you are in the same “position “ in the lineup at days end , enjoy it radio on relax and watch Mother Nature.James
switchlogic:
‘Up the ladder’ We’re lorry drivers chap, not lawyers or doctors. We’re all at same level
(The small amount of tipper work I did was agency)
A move from driving a scaffolding truck or local hiab building deliveries or multi drop to an 8 wheeler roro Bulker is definitely a move up the ladder unless there’s something seriously wrong with the bulker job.
Tipper/Bulker work on agency when, where, which agency we must be from different planets.
Nope, it’s all just sideways, thinking there’s any sort of hierarchy is pointless. One man’s meat is another man’s gristle. To some the ultimate is tramping across Europe to others that sounds like a nightmare and they’d rather do 8 hours a day for a supermarket. There’s no up or down.
when, where, which agency we must be from different planets.