Hours please help

hello could some one help me with this one. i worked six days in a row and then i had 24 hours off i then worked five days in a row. how many hours do i need to take off now.
sorry to sound stupid im geting a little confused
regards
preece 3

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preece3:
i worked six days in a row and then i had 24 hours off i then worked five days in a row. how many hours do i need to take off now.

Not easy to answer this without a little more info so I am going to suggest doing something like this example -
Full weekly rest
Mon 0600 - 1900
Tue 0600 - 1900
Wed 0700 - 2000
Thu 0500 - 1800
Fri 0600 - 1900
Sat 0700 - 1600
Sun off
Mon 0600 - 1900
Tue 0600 - 1900
Wed 0700 - 2000
Thu 0500 - 1800
Fri 0600 - 1900
When can I restart on Monday ?

welll come to the madhouse preece3

what we need mate is more info

how many hour driving did you do in the 6 days and the 5 days that all so as an affect on your rest

as Rog as said put the hours you worked and the days put the driving time to if you can

ok here we go i did
3/8/09 rest
4/8/09 rest
5/8 01.00 fin 10.45
6/8 22.30 fin 09.00
7/8 03.00 fin 14.30
8/08 00.30 fin 10.15
9/08 04.15 fin 14.15
10/08 03.30 fin 15.00
11/08 rest
12/08 00.30 fin 10.45
13/08 started on 12th at 23.00 fin 09.00 on the 13th
14/08 13.00 fin 23.00
15/08 14.00 fin 23.45
16/08 11.00 fin 20.15
17/08 rest
when can i go back
please help
thank you all

MON 3/8/09 rest
TUE 4/8/09 rest - FULL WEEKLY REST SO AT THIS POINT I WILL ASSUME WE START AFRESH WITH NOTHING TO PAY BACK
WED 5/8 01.00 fin 10.45
THU 6/8 22.30 fin 09.00
FRI 7/8 03.00 fin 14.30 - REDUCED DAILY REST DOES NOT NEED PAYING BACK
SAT 8/08 00.30 fin 10.15
SUN 9/08 04.15 fin 14.15
MON 10/08 03.30 fin 15.00
TUE 11/08 rest - 33 HOURS + 30 MINS REDUCED WEEKLY REST (11HRS+30MINS TO PAY BACK)
WED 12/08 00.30 fin 10.45
WED/THU 13/08 started on 12th at 23.00 fin 09.00 on the 13th - 28 HOURS OFF - NOT MUCH USE AS A WEEKLY REST (FULL ONE REQUIRED) BUT CAN BE USED TO PAY BACK THE 11HRS+30MINS
FRI 14/08 13.00 fin 23.00
SAT 15/08 14.00 fin 23.45
SUN 16/08 11.00 fin 20.15
MON 17/08 rest
when can i go back
45 HOURS FULL WEEKLY REST NOW REQUIRED SO RESTART DAY/TIME OF TUE 17.15

a big thank you to rog.
i have allways worked 5 on 2 off then on one off but the days of my full time job went i now im on agency trying to earn that way and the hours im not use to being all over the place. and i will admit i hate waiting to find out if i have any work that day or not but cant moan least i have some work at the moment
thank you all again
preece 3

preece3:
hello could some one help me with this one. i worked six days in a row and then i had 24 hours off i then worked five days in a row. how many hours do i need to take off now.
sorry to sound stupid im geting a little confused
regards
preece 3

If the 24 hour rest was the only weekly rest taken in that same week (00:00 Monday to 24:00 Sunday) then you would need a weekly rest of at least 45 hours.

Sorry but I don’t have time to read all those times as they’re really not necessary, nor is the amount of driving time done unless you’re concerned about going over the limit :wink:

tachograph:
If the 24 hour rest was the only weekly rest taken in that same week (00:00 Monday to 24:00 Sunday) then you would need a weekly rest of at least 45 hours.

Sorry but I don’t have time to read all those times as they’re really not necessary,

I considered giving that simple answer but rightly or wrongly thought that a more in-depth look and explanation might be useful to the OP or others viewing this.

It also helped me to know if I had considered everything correctly in my way of thinking because I’m sure a GURU would have quickly put me right if not :wink: :laughing:

delboytwo:
welll come to the madhouse preece3

what we need mate is more info

The CPC course on EU regs drivers hours will clear this one up, and it is essential that a driver understands them it is after all how we keep our licence.

Cheers Rick

preece3:
ok here we go i did
3/8/09 rest
4/8/09 rest
5/8 01.00 fin 10.45
6/8 22.30 fin 09.00
7/8 03.00 fin 14.30
8/08 00.30 fin 10.15
9/08 04.15 fin 14.15
10/08 03.30 fin 15.00
11/08 rest
12/08 00.30 fin 10.45
13/08 started on 12th at 23.00 fin 09.00 on the 13th
14/08 13.00 fin 23.00
15/08 14.00 fin 23.45
16/08 11.00 fin 20.15
17/08 rest
when can i go back
please help
thank you all

err, how did you manage to finish working @ 09.00 on the 7th, and also start @ 03.00 on the 7th? :question: :smiley:

instructorone:
how did you manage to finish working @ 09.00 on the 7th, and also start @ 03.00 on the 7th?

WED 5/8 01.00 fin 10.45
THU 6/8 22.30 fin 09.00
FRI 7/8 03.00 fin 14.30 - REDUCED DAILY REST DOES NOT NEED PAYING BACK
SAT 8/08 00.30 fin 10.15

I reckon he meant this…

WED 5/8 01.00 fin 10.45
WED/THU 6/8 WED 22.30 fin THU 09.00
FRI 7/8 03.00 fin 14.30 - REDUCED DAILY REST DOES NOT NEED PAYING BACK
SAT 8/08 00.30 fin 10.15

after 6 24hour peiods, you should take at least 24 hours off.
after another 6 24hour periods, you should take at least 45 hours off.
after your 3rd week of 6 24 hour periods, you should take at least 72 hours off.
however, the shorfall from week 1 can be made up at anytime prior to the end of the 3rd week.
as far as i know it could be done like this.
you finish your shift, take 9 hours rest plus 21 hours to make up the shortfall from week 1. so you end up taking 30 hours off.
if that is wrong, then i hope someone puts me straight. :laughing:

if you have 1 day off after 1 week then 2 days off after your second week and repeat that you wont go wrong simples… :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

gorby1:
if you have 1 day off after 1 week then 2 days off after your second week and repeat that you wont go wrong simples… :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

not necessarily :exclamation:
If when you take the two days off there is not enough hours on top of the 45 to compensate for the reduced weekly rest and it has not been paid back during the week then that could be a problem…

ROG:

gorby1:
if you have 1 day off after 1 week then 2 days off after your second week and repeat that you wont go wrong simples… :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

not necessarily :exclamation:
If when you take the two days off there is not enough hours on top of the 45 to compensate for the reduced weekly rest and it has not been paid back during the week then that could be a problem…

now yor confusing me.com :confused:

we dont work extortianate hours rog, we work 6am -6pm that is our max hours so working our hours out is simples…i know what you mean with some transport cos, pushing the max hours out of you though… :frowning:

OK, being as this post has answered the orignal OP then I see no harm in continuing :smiley:

I’ll do a two week repeating work pattern -

Return from a weeks annual leave - no payback pending - so we can start from scratch :slight_smile:
Mon 0600 - 1900
tue 0600 - 1900
wed 0600 - 1900
thu 0600 - 2100
fri 0600 - 2100
sat 0900 - 2400
sun off - reduced weekly rest of 24 hours leaving 21 to be paid back
mon 0000 - 1300
tue 0000 - 1300
wed 0000 - 1300
thu 0000 - 1500
fri 0600 - 2100
sat off
sun off
back to start

There has been no opportunity to pay back the 21 hours during the week.

From fri 2100 to mon 0600 is 57 hours - not enough as we need 45 + 21 = 66 hours.

This repeating two weeks would be illegal as there is no chance to pay back the owing weekly rest.

As you said in your post - one day off in one week and two days off in the next , but as I said, be careful as it does not always work. :wink: :slight_smile:

limeyphil:
after 6 24hour peiods, you should take at least 24 hours off.
after another 6 24hour periods, you should take at least 45 hours off.
after your 3rd week of 6 24 hour periods, you should take at least 72 hours off.
however, the shorfall from week 1 can be made up at anytime prior to the end of the 3rd week.
as far as i know it could be done like this.
you finish your shift, take 9 hours rest plus 21 hours to make up the shortfall from week 1. so you end up taking 30 hours off.
if that is wrong, then i hope someone puts me straight. :laughing:

I’m sorry but that’s not correct.

Payback for reduced weekly rest periods has nothing to do with the 6x24 hour periods that you can work before needing a weekly rest.

In any two consecutive fixed weeks a driver should take either two full 45 hour weekly rests or one reduced weekly rest of at least 24 hours and one full weekly rest of at least 45 hours.

Compensation for a reduced weekly rest period should be paid back by the end of the third week following the week in which the reduced weekly rest period was taken.

Although it’s true that you should have started a weekly rest period no later than 6x24 hours periods from the end of the last weekly rest it’s important to note that we’re talking about the fixed week (00:00 Monday to 24:00 Sunday) when talking about paying back the compensation for reduced weekly rests and for the manner in which weekly rest should be taken, though for many drivers it will amount to the same thing :wink:

Compensation for a reduced weekly rest period can be paid back en-block by adding it onto any rest period of at least 9 hours, so you’re correct in saying that it could be added to a reduced daily rest of nine hours :smiley:

gorby1:
if you have 1 day off after 1 week then 2 days off after your second week and repeat that you wont go wrong simples… :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

If you work 06:00 to 18:00 on all working days then that would work for you as the one day off would be a rest of 36 hours and two days off would be a rest of 60 hours, easily enough to repay the reduced weekly rest.

However it certainly wouldn’t work for everyone as your post seems to imply :wink: