Hobby driver

Hi - first post after browsing for a while. I have an idea in mind and I’d appreciate your views.

I recently took early retirement after many years working in PR/media relations. It’s given me the chance to think about what unrealised ambitions I’ve got, and if/how to fulfil them. And the one I keep coming up with is to learn to drive HGVs. My late father was a driver for British Rail [as was] and I often used to go in the cab with him - must be in the blood!

Despite my username I’m not anti-vehicle [anti some motorists, but that’s another story]. I’ve had a bike licence since I was 18 and a car licence since the age of 20. I enjoy driving and have a clean licence and many years’ no claims. So…my proposal is to pay to get myself a C+E licence. My local firm [Coates] has been around as long as I can remember and the one or two drivers I’ve spoken to say it’s well-regarded. My guess is that this would cost me about £2,000.

After that, there might be a chance of getting agency work? I neither need nor want a full-time job, but would be more than happy to take on occasional work - and as I’m retired, it don’t really matter if it’s at weekends or whenever. I appreciate from reading the posts here that jobs are few and far between and so I’m prepared to spend the £2k to fulfil an ambition, regardless of whether I can get any of the investment back through working.

So…what do you think?

I think you want your bumps felt…perhaps you might consider leaving the work for somebody who really needs it?

Fair enough - but bear in mind that I left my previous job so that it would be available to someone who really needs it…

Anyone else?

If that’s what you want to do to fulfil and ambition then go for it…life is too short,get on and do as much as you can,you’re long time dead.
The company I work for have a lot of retired drivers that come a do a couple of days here and there just to top up their pensions and get them out the house,one of them only works thursday and friday,it suits them and suits the company.

ericonabike:
Fair enough - but bear in mind that I left my previous job so that it would be available to someone who really needs it…

Anyone else?

Hi ericonabike,

That’s a cracker of an answer. :grimacing: :smiley:

Following on from BM’s answer, there are a number of firms that just need a driver for a day or two each week, or that struggle to find a driver whith sufficient driving weekly hours left to cover a day or two at weekends from time to time.

IMHO, you wouldn’t be blocking a person wishing to get a full time job, because if a company wants a full time driver, then they wouldn’t employ you if your wish is for part-time working would they?

:bulb: J Coates is a respected LGV training school, so at least you won’t be spending silly money on brokers mark-ups on stuff that you can get from J Coates as a standard part of their service.

In all fairness, I’ll point out that TN has a list of recommended LGV training providers that you can use for comparison.

Just scroll until you see your county…
:arrow_right: LGV TRAINING TIPS [Reworked 01/02/2022] (Read only) - #5 by rog - NEW AND WANNABE DRIVERS (INTERACTIVE) - Trucknet UK

Good luck with your decision and your training. :smiley:

welcome eric…

you should go ahead and scratch your itch… like dd says there are some ‘senior gents’ at our place, who do the odd day here and there and cover sickness and holidays, no doubt cheaper than getting an agency guy/gal in.

sounds like you’re looking to fill your time with something you want to do rather than concentrating on getting a return for your investment.

best of luck, with whichever you decide.

Thanks for that - will look at the other providers, but feel confident about Coates having seen their vehicles around Leicester so often! From talking to a friend who recently retired from driving, it also seems they would give me an honest assessment of my ability and prospects following my first time on the road with them. Which I’d welcome, as we all think we’re the dog’s doodahs when it comes to driving, but the reality may be different. And even if they said I was a hopeless case, it’s still valuable experience.

‘sounds like you’re looking to fill your time with something you want to do rather than concentrating on getting a return for your investment.’

Too right! In half an hour I’ll be off to do my second two hour stint of the week as a beer taster…honest! Paid by a local university to be on their Sensory Science Dept’s beer tasting panel. [zb] job of course, but someone’s gotta do it…

Firstly, welcome Eric :slight_smile: secondly have you got a bike, if so what sort ? :slight_smile: Thirdly, I,ll swap my HGV licence for your beer tasting job anyday mate :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Go for it, why not!! :wink:

Hey Eric.

All I can say is go for it guy, theres nothing worse than looking back wishing you had done something and didnt !

There are agencies and companies out there who would be happy to take someone part time a few days a week and plenty of drivers who would turn it down cause its not full time.

Good luck and let us know how you get on

Madguy :imp:

Not sure the beer tasting and driving are a good mix :wink:

Thanks for the encouragement - I know it’s a long road but I’m a quick learner and prepared to put the effort in. As for the bike - it’s now a garage-full of various bicycles. I used to run a Yamaha XJR1300 but sold it when I came to its MOT and realised I’d only ridden 100 miles since the last one…

Beer tasting - all very scientific, we’ re allowed a maximum of one unit of alcohol per two hour session. There’s even a breathalyser to hand if we want to test ourselves before leaving.

ericonabike:
I appreciate from reading the posts here that jobs are few and far between and so I’m prepared to spend the £2k to fulfil an ambition, regardless of whether I can get any of the investment back through working.

So…what do you think?

Hello Eric, welcome etc.

You seem to be approaching this very pragmatically, so I would say “Go for it”. Whether it leads to work or not, the C+E driving test (or “Class 1” as we lorry drivers call it :wink: ) is generally seen as being the most difficult driving test in the UK and possibly the world. So just passing that test will give you a huge sense of achievement.

Will you earn the money back? Maybe, maybe not, it’s not the easiest of times out there although many other newly qualified drivers on here have found work. If you can afford to kiss goodbye to £2,000 in pursuit of a dream and are willing to approach it in that way then please do so.

I remember, back in the 1980’s, reading in a trucking magazine about a girl in her 20’s, who was seriously ill and wheelchair bound, with no connection whatsoever to the transport industry but whose dream had always been to pass the Class 1 :wink: test.

She had to be physically manhandled into the truck, which had been heavily modified, by three strong men.

The photograph accompanying the article showed her sat in her wheelchair after the test, next to the truck, beaming from ear to ear and proudly holding her pass certificate.

Did she ever recoup the money? I very much doubt it, but so what?

Like I said, go for it. :sunglasses: :sunglasses: :sunglasses:

Thanks Harry. Heartening story. Out of interest I’ve just taken one of the mock LGV theory tests at DirectGov. Scored 39 out of 50 with pass being 43 [tho I know real test has 100 Qs]. Pleased with that, given I’ve done no revision or training as yet.

Dont pay too much attention to the naysayers. You can buy books for the theory stuff from desktopdriving .co.uk you might well get odd jobs from agencies though in my experience skips and tipper operations are more likely to take on a driver without the oft quoted 2 years.I would suggest that you try to get some work after passing the C test then decide if you want to spend more cash on training.

Good luck on your quest to become an HGV driver Eric ( you must be nuts - I jest ) :wink:

If you can afford to lay out the dosh for the theory test, medical, CPC and test and are prepared to pay for a medical and 35 hours of CPC every 5 years, then why not?

We have more regrets about things we haven’t done, than things we attempted which didn’t quite succeed.

Who knows, you may love it, fall on your feet and end up making a good living from it, rather than just a hobby.

Follow your dreams. :sunglasses: Good luck to you. :slight_smile:

I would say go for it as many companied have drivers like yourself as they use you rather than agencies as it can be cheaper & they know you

You can cover weekends the odd day during the week or holidays or go to rescue a driver that is out of hours & they need the lorry back or both driver & lorry

Harry Monk:
I remember, back in the 1980’s, reading in a trucking magazine about a girl in her 20’s, who was seriously ill and wheelchair bound, with no connection whatsoever to the transport industry but whose dream had always been to pass the Class 1 :wink: test.

She had to be physically manhandled into the truck, which had been heavily modified, by three strong men.

The photograph accompanying the article showed her sat in her wheelchair after the test, next to the truck, beaming from ear to ear and proudly holding her pass certificate.

That inspires me.

I’ve not sure that I’ve let on just how disabled I am. I have a rare neuromuscular condition which significantly affects me, but fortunately I still have the muscle power and co-ordination to drive in complete safety. Though I’m a wheelchair user, my arms and legs work well enough when I’m not load-bearing to allow me to drive unmodified manual vehicles. DVLA extensively investigated my fitness to drive last year and I retained an unrestricted 10 year car licence with all the categories relating to a pre-1997 car test. I do not need specialist controls nor am I restricted to automatic transmission - the only restriction code on my licence is 01 (eyesight correction required). Like many, I need glasses to meet the eyesight standards.

I saw my neurologist in the week and mentioned my dream since childhood has been to pass my CE test. After due consideration and us reviewing the information in DVLA’s “At A Glance”, he said that he would be happy to write a letter to DVLA confirming that, in his opinion, my condition does not prevent me from meeting the Category 2 (vocational) medical standards as it does not impair my co-ordination or muscle power so far as driving goes, also my condition is currently stable.

As soon as I get the chance to follow this up with his secretary, and I get the letter (which will take a while), I intend to ask my GP to fill in a D4 and I’ll apply for provisional C and D entitlement. I know that the regular advice is to use one of the cheap services for a D4 medical, but, in my case, doing so would create lasting doubt that I am giving my GP an opportunity to comment on my fitness to meet the vocational standards with the benefit of sight of all the correspondence from my specialists.

If DVLA will grant me provisional C entitlement and I can scrape the money together, I see no reason why I couldn’t learn in an ordinary lorry. I can clamber up into the driving seat of a Transit van, so it shouldn’t be too much harder to get into the cab of a typical training company’s category C vehicle. Power steering is now ubiquitous (and it it breaks, it would be a defect) and heavy cable clutches are also consigned to history (presumably clutches on modern manual LGVs are either air or hydraulically actuated).

Whether I’ll ever work again is a very debatable point, though I’m doing my best to get back into the workplace.

Whether I’d ever earn money from a vocational driving licence is certainly doubtful, though, as my neurologist said, usually when a patient asks for confirmation they can reach Group 2 medical standards, it’s because they want to get a National Private Pilot’s Licence (which is based on Group 2 medical standards rather than the higher aeromedical standards applying to higher pilots’ licences) rather than wanting to drive a lorry or bus. He observed that it should be much cheaper to learn to drive a lorry than learning to fly a light aircraft.

I may be more likely to find a use for PCV entitlement, though Peter Smythe has commented that drivers with category CE tend to quick and therefore relatively cheap to train for the category D test. The bus company in town is always advertising for drivers (including part-time casuals) and, probably more important, the local community minibus is desperately short of drivers. I realise that my D1 (not for hire and reward) is sufficient for the community minibus as they have a section 19 permit, but a D licence would help persuade them that I’m medically suitable to be driving for them.

Am I completely bonkers? I believe there are trainers out there who could make my dream come true if DVLA will give me a provisional licence.

Peter Smythe - I would certainly be contacting you to see if you would train me personally if I had the provisional and the money at the moment. Your attitude and patient sharing of your experience on this forum impresses me greatly. It reflects how I try to live my life - I try to give to others in every way that I can.

ericonabike:
It’s given me the chance to think about what unrealised ambitions I’ve got, and if/how to fulfil them. And the one I keep coming up with is to learn to drive HGVs.

wdf76:
sounds like you’re looking to fill your time with something you want to do rather than concentrating on getting a return for your investment.

ericonabike:
Too right! In half an hour I’ll be off to do my second two hour stint of the week as a beer taster…honest! Paid by a local university to be on their Sensory Science Dept’s beer tasting panel. [zb] job of course, but someone’s gotta do it…

ericonabike:
If you really don’t need the money why not do the course and then go on a hire/drive holiday in a monster winebago in the States for example