I had a similar letter last week telling me I had a shortfall of just over £700 for the tax year 2016 -2017. I know why I got it though as I get a fairly good pension from my time in the forces, and the work I do now puts me over the threshold, so cant really complain. other than when you ring them to pay the shortfall they say I cant pay it and it has to be taken from my PAYE payments by way of changing my tax code next year… why■■? I can pay it now, and want to pay it now… surely they should be thankfully to have the money quicker… or am I missing a bigger picture?
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Think it says it all when there is a website named hmrc is [zb]
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rab6600:
I had a similar letter last week telling me I had a shortfall of just over £700 for the tax year 2016 -2017. I know why I got it though as I get a fairly good pension from my time in the forces, and the work I do now puts me over the threshold, so cant really complain. other than when you ring them to pay the shortfall they say I cant pay it and it has to be taken from my PAYE payments by way of changing my tax code next year… why■■? I can pay it now, and want to pay it now… surely they should be thankfully to have the money quicker… or am I missing a bigger picture?
The bigger picture generally has something to do with the fact that HMRC seems to be exclusively staffed with people who are incompetent and otherwise unemployable outside the cotton wool-filled bubble that is the public sector.
They will tell you on the phone that they are going to do something, not do it, and then send a strongly worded letter out months later demanding that you sort something out that they have already told you was dealt with.
They will move money around and then send you a letter asking what that payment is for, at the same time as sending you another letter demanding that you make a payment for the exact same amount, because they are too stupid to recognise their own mistake and put the two together.
They have an automated phone system that takes all of your details after you repeat them three or four times, and then connects you to a human who then takes every single one of those details again.
My experience of HMRC is that is an organisation that is beyond hopeless, staffed by muppets who probably need help dressing themselves in the morning.
Olog Hai:
rab6600:
I had a similar letter last week telling me I had a shortfall of just over £700 for the tax year 2016 -2017. I know why I got it though as I get a fairly good pension from my time in the forces, and the work I do now puts me over the threshold, so cant really complain. other than when you ring them to pay the shortfall they say I cant pay it and it has to be taken from my PAYE payments by way of changing my tax code next year… why■■? I can pay it now, and want to pay it now… surely they should be thankfully to have the money quicker… or am I missing a bigger picture?The bigger picture generally has something to do with the fact that HMRC seems to be exclusively staffed with people who are incompetent and otherwise unemployable outside the cotton wool-filled bubble that is the public sector.
They will tell you on the phone that they are going to do something, not do it, and then send a strongly worded letter out months later demanding that you sort something out that they have already told you was dealt with.
They will move money around and then send you a letter asking what that payment is for, at the same time as sending you another letter demanding that you make a payment for the exact same amount, because they are too stupid to recognise their own mistake and put the two together.
They have an automated phone system that takes all of your details after you repeat them three or four times, and then connects you to a human who then takes every single one of those details again.
My experience of HMRC is that is an organisation that is beyond hopeless, staffed by muppets who probably need help dressing themselves in the morning.
My experience exactly…this forum needs a ‘like’ button.
Back in 2016 I paid HMRC my corpo tax before the date due. The payment went through and I thought nothing else about it. Weeks later I received a letter saying that I had not paid my corpo tax. I rang HMRC to inform them I had paid. I was told by the chap on the phone to ignore the letter as it was auto computer generated. I left it at that. 4 weeks later I again received a letter this time demanding payment of corpo tax. Again I rang, this time more forceful telling that it was paid and to get their act together. Got the usual apology and left it at that. 2 weeks later I received another letter this time informing me that HMRC would be sending debt collection agencies to my address to either take payment or take goods to the value of. The third phone call I made put them in their place but got the usual apologies from them which they think makes everything ok. They on the whole are not fit for purpose so by changing their systems to fully automated will in my opinion cause many problems on top of the many problems.
Yes, I have had the threat of debt collection agencies from the thick ■■■■■ at HMRC many months after I had paid all of the tax due and after more than one phone call explaining it.
HMRC is one organisation that would benefit from being as close to fully automated as possible. Doing so would remove entirely its current crop of idiots and their inability to do anything correctly from mine and many other people’s lives and put them where they belong, which is on the dole.
Olog Hai:
Yes, I have had the threat of debt collection agencies from the thick [zb] at HMRC many months after I had paid all of the tax due and after more than one phone call explaining it.HMRC is one organisation that would benefit from being as close to fully automated as possible. Doing so would remove entirely its current crop of idiots and their inability to do anything correctly from mine and many other people’s lives and put them where they belong, which is on the dole.
The last fight i had with hmrc was a very long time ago when they billed me for approx £6.5K.They took me to court after freezing my bank accounts and initially had to pay the bill. A few months later it was proven i owed them nothing and was reimbursed but no apology whatsoever, seems nothing much has changed re efficiency…
My dealings with HMRC regarding interest on monies,
You owe them money because of their incompetence they charge you 3% interest
They owe you money because of their incompetence you receive 1.5% interest
When u tell the taxman u are no longer self employed what do they send as an equivalent of a p45 and how long does it take to arrive
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In other news, my mate told me tonight his brother (who is claiming benefits due to severe mental illenss) received a letter telling him they’d been underpaying him for the last few years, and reimbursed him in one lump sum. To the tune of £12k. This was Monday this week. He’d blown it by Wednesday.
Happy easter lads. Keep on truckin’.
madmackem:
commonrail:
Although now I think about it…there was some kind of fork up with my tax code,at the start of the(tax) year.
Can’t remember exactly what it was about,but wages woman said it would soon be sorted.
Temporary change in tax code…rings a bell.I had the same thing happen at the beginning of the last tax year. The magic HMRC tax computer decided that this year I was going to earn over £48k. All my tax relief goes on my military pension, and the first I found out about the change in my tax code was when I only got paid half of my normal monthly amount on my pension.
A quick call to HMRC and it was all sorted for the following months payment. Haven’t changed jobs in three years so not sure how they worked out my earnings.
Snap ! Quick phone call and sorted, and it was quick, 10 mins wait and the chap sorted it there and then , said there was a of it happening.
Year before last I got a cheque for £571 from hmrc. Didn’t get chance to bank it for a couple of weeks and the day after I had I got a bill for £572! Work that one out then because couldn’t. The day previous I could have sent them their cheque back.
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