Hi new member here need a bit of info plz

:smiley: hi im paddy
I have my class one a few years now, only had a few months work when I got it , I have just been offered a bit of work and am starting tomorrow night , I think I will be ok with the driving but cant really remember what to set the symbols with the taco ( its an analogue taco ) I know the bed is the rest but couldn’t rem if it was the hammers for the driving fs lol ? also if the unit has two sets of symbols do I just set them both to the same , ( I know its a stupid question think its nerves kickin in and don’t want to mess it up lol ) cheers in advance

This helped me

m.youtube.com/watch?v=3RCZ4oOt-I8

Toddy5453:
This helped me

m.youtube.com/watch?v=3RCZ4oOt-I8

thanks toddy ill go look now mate cheers

evofq360:

Toddy5453:
This helped me

m.youtube.com/watch?v=3RCZ4oOt-I8

thanks toddy ill go look now mate cheers

that’s a digital taco vid toddy I need analogue m8 lol

Crossed Hammers = Other work

Square/Round = Driving.

If you are single crewed (that is to say you are the only driver) set only one (usually marked with a 1) However, I would always put a spare tacho in the back to protect the needle, but DONT write on the spare tacho.

Hope that helps

Very few have the round driving symbol so driving is automatically selected

I used to leave it on the bed symbol when driving so any brief stops did not get recorded as other work

The square one with the line through it is POA

ROG:
Very few have the round driving symbol so driving is automatically selected

I used to leave it on the bed symbol when driving so any brief stops did not get recorded as other work

The square one with the line through it is POA

And as Rog knows you’ll Get Fkd for that so its X hammers unless your on break rest or POA and if there happens to be a circle that’s the one for driving but most newer annologs just have the 3 symbols

nick2008:

ROG:
Very few have the round driving symbol so driving is automatically selected

I used to leave it on the bed symbol when driving so any brief stops did not get recorded as other work

The square one with the line through it is POA

And as Rog knows you’ll Get Fkd for that so its X hammers unless your on break rest or POA and if there happens to be a circle that’s the one for driving but most newer annologs just have the 3 symbols

What law is broken when doing that ? = none

ROG:

nick2008:

ROG:
Very few have the round driving symbol so driving is automatically selected

I used to leave it on the bed symbol when driving so any brief stops did not get recorded as other work

The square one with the line through it is POA

And as Rog knows you’ll Get Fkd for that so its X hammers unless your on break rest or POA and if there happens to be a circle that’s the one for driving but most newer annologs just have the 3 symbols

What law is broken when doing that ? = none

Vosa never said anything about my tachos that were left on rest whilst driving.
Actually 99% of the stuff you hear about Vosa is a load of crap.

The tachograph will have two sets of symbols, one for the driver and one for a second driver, on a single manned vehicle you only use the side marked 1.

Other Work

Break/Rest

POA

Driving is automatically selected when the vehicle starts moving then when the vehicle stops moving the tachograph will automatically revert to the activity that was selected before the vehicle moved.
So it’s very unlikely that you’ll use an analogue tachograph these days where you can select driving but if you do:

Driving

thanks for the info guys , so its x hammers all the time unless its a break then the bed symbol ?

ROG:

nick2008:

ROG:
Very few have the round driving symbol so driving is automatically selected

I used to leave it on the bed symbol when driving so any brief stops did not get recorded as other work

The square one with the line through it is POA

And as Rog knows you’ll Get Fkd for that so its X hammers unless your on break rest or POA and if there happens to be a circle that’s the one for driving but most newer annologs just have the 3 symbols

What law is broken when doing that ? = none

The law that’s being broken is that you’re recording break when you’re working.

I’m not surprised that anyone would leave the tachograph on break/rest while driving so that short stops are recorded as break, but to be honest I am surprised that anyone would suggest it’s legal to record break whilst working :open_mouth:

10-08:
Vosa never said anything about my tachos that were left on rest whilst driving.
Actually 99% of the stuff you hear about Vosa is a load of crap.

I agree that there’s a lot of crap talked about VOSA, but it’s equally true that plenty of people have been done for recording break when they were working.

evofq360:
thanks for the info guys , so its x hammers all the time unless its a break then the bed symbol ?

No

If actually doing other work then its cross hammers

If not actually driving or doing other work then its either POA (box) or break (bed) - break is best option as it requires less rules to be obeyed

Using bed when driving records break when the vehicle is not in motion and who is to say what the driver is doing at that time - perhaps recouperating by simply doing nothing …

Unless the laws on that have changed in the last 5+ years then all was fine with VOSA doing that

evofq360:
thanks for the info guys , so its x hammers all the time unless its a break then the bed symbol ?

That’s spot on :smiley:

If you want to brush up on the regulations VOSA have published a guide which most people seem to find handy, you can download it here

There’s also a section that deals with tachographs, analogue and digital.

tachograph:

evofq360:
thanks for the info guys , so its x hammers all the time unless its a break then the bed symbol ?

That’s spot on :smiley:

If you want to brush up on the regulations VOSA have published a guide which most people seem to find handy, you can download it here

There’s also a section that deals with tachographs, analogue and digital.

thanks tacograph cheers m8 , so keep the hammers on drive 4.5 hours ,park up bed symbol on 45 min break drive another 4.5 hours and ill be ok lol

ROG:
Using bed when driving records break when the vehicle is not in motion and who is to say what the driver is doing at that time - perhaps recouperating by simply doing nothing …

The fact is that it’s illegal to record break whilst you’re working, and sat at traffic lights or in a queue of traffic or whatever is certainly not break

ROG:
Unless the laws on that have changed in the last 5+ years then all was fine with VOSA doing that

No the law hasn’t changed, it’s always been illegal to record break whilst working.

If you think VOSA are fine with it feel free to put it to the test, jump in a vehicle with an analogue tachograph and with the tachograph on break drive around a bit then go to the nearest VOSA checkpoint and tell them what you’ve been doing.

Let us know what they say :smiley:

Just because plenty of people leave the tachograph on break doesn’t mean it’s legal to do so :wink:

VOSA have to prove a driver was working if they suspect using break was wrong

If stopped at lights for a minute and relaxing with the handbrake on is the driver working?

ROG:
If stopped at lights for a minute and relaxing with the handbrake on is the driver working?

Yes, break is time that can be used exclusivity for recuperation, how can time at traffic lights be not working :confused:

There’s an old saying ROG, “when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging” :wink:

I ink I read somewhere when resting you have to be out of the drivers seat ?