HGV rollover on M11

Bit of a brown trousers moment in this piece of video…

dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … yover.html

Another knob thinking he’s driving his car :open_mouth:

Looks like it, if only there’d been some warning signs to help him, like “max speed 30mph” and “Reduce speed now” maybe that one with the image of a truck tipping over… :laughing:

For the easily outraged, I’m being sarcastic, all those signs can be seen if you click on “Watch the full video”

drover:
Another knob thinking he’s driving his car :open_mouth:

To be fair not just any car looks like a proper M series BMW driver.Obviously ( can ) only drives an automatic so it’s in the highest gear possible for the throttle input.

Someone in the comments is blaming this on Brexit lol.

ezydriver:
Someone in the comments is blaming this on Brexit lol.

Franglais has been quiet recently.

Interesting. At possibly the point of no return for the trailer, the cab is still pretty flat on the ground, so without looking in your mirrors how much warning would you have?
40 mph for this bend, could that ever be reasonable? Is the truck loaded with a particularly high center of gravity?

the maoster:

ezydriver:
Someone in the comments is blaming this on Brexit lol.

Franglais has been quiet recently.

Not heard much from him since the story in early December about the EU offices being raided in Brussels in connection to corruption and bribery. Unless he’s frantically working his way through … well, pretty much every single mainstream news source that reported it, deciding which link is best to post. You know because in the interest of fairness and discussion, anything Brexit/EU related should be discussed in the Brexit thread.

stu675:
Interesting. At possibly the point of no return for the trailer, the cab is still pretty flat on the ground, so without looking in your mirrors how much warning would you have?

Professional informational videos say rollovers happen with little or no warning, and by the time it has begun it is usually too late to take corrective action.

That bend is too tight you need to take it slow. You don’t need a warning sign to tell you. Your eyes should be enough

stu675:
Interesting. At possibly the point of no return for the trailer, the cab is still pretty flat on the ground, so without looking in your mirrors how much warning would you have?
40 mph for this bend, could that ever be reasonable? Is the truck loaded with a particularly high center of gravity?

That’s a surprising amount of lateral articulation in a fifth wheel coupling that only really pivots in the fore and aft direction.
The unloaded nearside of the drive axle might already be lifting off the road at that point and some of it could also be the ‘flex’ in the tractor unit’s chassis and steer axle suspension.
Artics are also less stable than rigids in that regard especially when the unit is at an angle to the trailer providing less lateral support for the front of the trailer.
It’s a tightening double bend in opposite directions creating a pendulum effect even with an ideal CofG.
It needs a slow approach in a low gear and careful steering inputs.With a good long pause in the middle between changing lock from one direction to the other in the case of a double or series of bends or when negotiating roundabouts.While if/when gravity takes over it all happens quick.
Basically it’s an artic not a BMW M3 or a Merc Sprinter van.

the maoster:

ezydriver:
Someone in the comments is blaming this on Brexit lol.

Franglais has been quiet recently.

Sent him a pm today, no reply as yet, if he’s any sense he’s sitting under a palm tree with cool drink in the company of a dusky maiden having left all methods of communication thousands of miles behind.

stu675:
Interesting. At possibly the point of no return for the trailer, the cab is still pretty flat on the ground, so without looking in your mirrors how much warning would you have?
40 mph for this bend, could that ever be reasonable? Is the truck loaded with a particularly high center of gravity?

Its the bit where the M25 joins the M11 northbound. Nasty bends and a camber as well. Its well signposted that spped should be 30mph and there are also signposts warning HGVs of camber and risk of going over.
Just another bellend that has blagged an HGV licence.

i do that junction quite often. Lost count of the number of heros that try and do it at 50 mph+ till they get into the bend and see it tightens quite suddenly and then switches to the other direction with an adverse camber and a bloody pot hole.

Was just going to say that they think they’re a hero when they make it round the right hander overtaking everyone then discover there’s an immediate sharp left that just gets tighter.

msgyorkie:

stu675:
Interesting. At possibly the point of no return for the trailer, the cab is still pretty flat on the ground, so without looking in your mirrors how much warning would you have?
40 mph for this bend, could that ever be reasonable? Is the truck loaded with a particularly high center of gravity?

Its the bit where the M25 joins the M11 northbound. Nasty bends and a camber as well. Its well signposted that spped should be 30mph and there are also signposts warning HGVs of camber and risk of going over.
Just another bellend that has blagged an HGV licence.

M11 southbound. North doesn’t have the lane to the left (beyond the cones in the video)

Zac_A:
Looks like it, if only there’d been some warning signs to help him, like “max speed 30mph” and “Reduce speed now” maybe that one with the image of a truck tipping over… :laughing:

For the easily outraged, I’m being sarcastic, all those signs can be seen if you click on “Watch the full video”

I’m sorry but we are going to be banned from being sarcastic soon.A school in Skegness has banned its teachers from being sarcastic in the future to protect its delicate flower pupils.Today Skegness.Tomorrow the world!

So some knob puts his wagon on its side and all the daily fail can come up with is the RAC van behind allegedly didnt stop to help :unamused: says RAC van drives on, clearly doesn’t as he pulls over to the safe place, ie hard shoulder.

Dav1d:
M11 southbound. North doesn’t have the lane to the left (beyond the cones in the video)

Nope, they’ve all come off the M25 anti clockwise and are about to, or attempting to join the M11 northbound.

just not worth trying to be quick through there good example of why you have to take your time
ive been through there hundreds of times always took it slowish especially when doing vertical paper reels