sorry fellas, but I thought after new rules some years ago, that you had to take a class 2 first , drive 12 mths on that CAT before doing Class 1.
Am I wrong on this?
You can obtain class 1 as soon as you pass class 2 and get class 1provisional back
yes, you are wrong
Yes, a full Category C licence acts as a provisional C+E licence from the moment you get it.
Thanks Fellas for the clarification
routier:
Thanks Fellas for the clarification
IIRC, what you asked was the original plan, and may have been the case for a couple of years when it first changed, but, now, as soon as you get the full Cat C back from DVLA, you can go straight for the C+E
anyone else think that this is just another money making scam? 
shuttlespanker:
routier:
Thanks Fellas for the clarificationIIRC, what you asked was the original plan, and may have been the case for a couple of years when it first changed, but, now, as soon as you get the full Cat C back from DVLA, you can go straight for the C+E
anyone else think that this is just another money making scam?
gone are the times where you went for your class 1 before you got your car licence 
nick2008:
shuttlespanker:
routier:
Thanks Fellas for the clarificationIIRC, what you asked was the original plan, and may have been the case for a couple of years when it first changed, but, now, as soon as you get the full Cat C back from DVLA, you can go straight for the C+E
anyone else think that this is just another money making scam?
gone are the times where you went for your class 1 before you got your car licence
And when you could drive a drawbar outfit on a class 3 or 2 assuming you could find a guvnor who’d believe it. 
Back in the day, when you passed your artic test (Day-cabbed Ford Cargo and 20’ single axle trailer, no theory test or DCPC) you not only got classes 1,2 and 3 but Classes 4 and 4A too. 
Harry Monk:
Back in the day, when you passed your artic test (Day-cabbed Ford Cargo and 20’ single axle trailer, no theory test or DCPC) you not only got classes 1,2 and 3 but Classes 4 and 4A too.
and ur licence was a little brown book 
nick2008:
and ur licence was a little brown book
What, like this?
shuttlespanker:
routier:
Thanks Fellas for the clarificationIIRC, what you asked was the original plan, and may have been the case for a couple of years when it first changed, but, now, as soon as you get the full Cat C back from DVLA, you can go straight for the C+E
Yes, that was the original plan.
IIRC, that was the way of it for a short time around 2004/5, but the idea of the one-year gap between upgrade from “C” to “C+E” was defo dropped.
dieseldave:
IIRC, that was the way of it for a short time around 2004/5
Since staged testing was introduced AFAIK you’ve always been able to go straight to class 1 (CE) on completion of the C.
mrpj:
dieseldave:
IIRC, that was the way of it for a short time around 2004/5Since staged testing was introduced AFAIK you’ve always been able to go straight to class 1 (CE) on completion of the C.
nope, when it first came out that you had to do Cat C, then C+E, you had to have the C for at least 12 months before you could go for C+E, that way, it got the new driver some experience of heavier vehicles before they were alllowed let loose with a full 44 tonne truck
had that system in place for a couple of years, then they changed it to as soon as you ge your full C licence back, you can go for C+E
and now, they have changed it again so you can go for it at 18 
shuttlespanker:
mrpj:
dieseldave:
IIRC, that was the way of it for a short time around 2004/5Since staged testing was introduced AFAIK you’ve always been able to go straight to class 1 (CE) on completion of the C.
nope, when it first came out that you had to do Cat C, then C+E, you had to have the C for at least 12 months before you could go for C+E, that way, it got the new driver some experience of heavier vehicles before they were alllowed let loose with a full 44 tonne truck
had that system in place for a couple of years, then they changed it to as soon as you ge your full C licence back, you can go for C+E
and now, they have changed it again so you can go for it at 18
Yes, you’re spot-on Rob. 
The idea of the one-year gap between getting a “C” licence before you could go on to do “C+E” came in at about the same time as the original two-part LGV theory test (Multi-choice + Hazard Perception) and the voluntary register of LGV instructors.
ok how about this then :-
I took a motorcycle test inc. theory test to allow me to ride any bike i choose. i applied and got a provisional cat c1, c and c+e and passed those courses — i’ve never driven a car in my 37yr existence but i’ve been driving class I for nearly 10yrs and i’m still not legally allowed to drive a car !!!
foxy stars:
ok how about this then :-I took a motorcycle test inc. theory test to allow me to ride any bike i choose. i applied and got a provisional cat c1, c and c+e and passed those courses — i’ve never driven a car in my 37yr existence but i’ve been driving class I for nearly 10yrs and i’m still not legally allowed to drive a car !!!
If you have CE on your licence then all the categories below that including B (car) are also valid
thanks for that ROG I always presumed that cos i’ve never taken a test in car that i was still not allowed to drive one — thankyou for the clarification