Winseer, FFS man get that chip off your shoulder. No wonder you struggle with jobs and all the other stuff that you have disclosed if you forever look at things with your ‘glass half empty’ specs on.
robroy:
Bloody hell
There’s a serious sense of humour famine on here today
The lad just wrote it as a bit of a joke, lighten up ffs.
O/p…I think it’s amusing and quite true mate if nobody else does.
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That’s as maybe Rob, but its humour touches a subject that polarises us drivers, that is the T&C’s which come along with the average driving job. Relatively low pay, long hours, unsocial start and finish times, time spent away from family and friends, a sense of disrespect from al who deal with you, High entry costs, lack of facilities etc.
To those of Us who took to driving as a chosen career path, whether as soon as the age would allow, or those that come to it late, from another usually more stressful career path, these are just the challenges that we accept as part and parcel, and we take action to mitigate how these challenges affect our daily lives, the recent threads on here about unplanned night outs is an example. A driver equipped with a sleeper cab, has no excuse for an unplanned night out, an unexpected night out is a different matter, but you should always be prepared, after all there is a bed in your truck for a reason 
Its about time drivers stopped trying to compare this job to other types of work. Every job has its own idiosyncrasy’s, few though take as much out of a work life balance as trucking, but its not hard to find that out before hand, and if as a new entrant to this industry believes he’s going to change it form within, well good luck with that.
My brother put a post in reply to the same text as the OP, but it was posted on FB. He has spent time in office jobs aswell as being a driver, it was the bit about being stuck listening to the same people droning on about their same boring lives, what they have done or are going to do, just imagine, that would be like going to work in an RDC waiting room for 8-9 hours everyday. I’m a driver get me out of here
Winseer:
"You must provide your own drawer handles, and any mistakes made whilst using the filing cabinet will result in a heavy fine and/or dismissal."“If someone else in the office makes a mistake or acts deliberately in a manner that loses you money, instead of it being called “theft”, they’ll be promoted, and you’ll be put on report for bringing any action without sufficient proof.”
“You will not have access to any computers, so there will never be any proof that is of any use to yourself, although there will always be plenty that can be used against you.”
“Adherence to EU laws shall take prescedence at all times, even over any former ideals of ‘the company bottom line comes first’.”
“Expect to be booked off during quiet periods. The basic hourly rate is 10% above minimum wage, so 10% of your hours can be docked totally legally, reducing the net hourly rate to around NMW +0.00001% to comply with trades description of ‘job pays more than minimum wage’.”
Lunch and travel expenses are included in your basic hourly rate, but cannot actually be offset via HMRC because you are deemed to be ‘Employed PAYE’ rather than ‘Self-Employed on IR35 rules’.
“There is a charge for sleeping behind your desk. The firm is not responsible for any of your gear that gets nicked at any time.”
“Your boss shall only be present when you are in the [zb], and never present at any other time. No correspondence shall be entered into.”
“Sick pay is at the discretion of management. If you’ve not died, or spent at least a week in hospital - don’t expect any.”
“If you should get another job elsewhere, you’ll be required to work your full notice period, during which time the job will probably end up going elsewhere as well.”
lots of other workers work under these conditions, of quilt until proved innocent.
My sister in-law works in a care home, any thing that they wish to take into the home sandwiches for instance, has to be in a clear box plastic box, no phones or jewellery allowed in either.
Plenty of shop/garage tills have overhead cameras, to catch staff with sticky fingers.
The whole minimum wage thing, and the subsequent poor conditions that accompany jobs paying it, is not unique to transport, infact because we have legally enforceable hours legislation, and the fact that the roll of driver requires a licence and dcpc card, puts us in a stronger position than many other workers.
No paye worker can claim travel expenses to their regular place of employment, and most workers don’t get a meal allowance, yet this is something that is becoming more common in transport, though I believe that’s purely to offset a wage rise in most cases.
Olog Hai:
Winseer, FFS man get that chip off your shoulder. No wonder you struggle with jobs and all the other stuff that you have disclosed if you forever look at things with your ‘glass half empty’ specs on.
I’ve yet to meet one of those “caring bosses” I keep hearing about. One who wants their business to make a profit, thinks “f–k Europe and it’s loss-inducing rules”, and offers pastoral care second to none.
The experiences I montage above are a mish-mash of everywhere I’ve ever worked, large or small company, whether full time or agency, for a single shift ever up to working there full time for a while.
Fair enough, as a montage of bad experiences - it was supposed to be a sarcastic look at “what happens all too often in trucking” - at least in my own experience.
That I’m seriously considering getting into the supermarket side of the business full time should tell you how jaded I’ve become on the aspect of my driving career.
I’ m still looking for the perfect boss who appreciates that I don’t smash the kit up, and make do with the minimum of overheads to get by doing my job. I’m not one of those people who can casually take a nice job for less money though, because there’s nothing near where I live. Even Palletliner work seems quite up my street if it were not for the fact that it’s never a four-day week, which I’ve been looking to get on for absolutely years now. 
My idea of a perfect job would therefore be a 3-day Tramping run around the UK (3x15 hours, out two nights per week) or 4x12 hour overnight shifts with a decent-length run.
But the Tramping jobs are 4-5 nights out, and the jobs with 12+ hour shifts - still expecting 5 shifts per week out of me.
…Maybe it’s a south of England thing, where they resent this higher premium rate - and squeeze you for the moneysworth all the time. I’ve never driven a truck to even Scotland as yet, but I see outfits from places like Carstairs and Stirling often enough.
Talking of which, I’ve not seen any Great Bear of Wyvern Cargos about for a while now? - Are they still in business?
Some very good points made there Eddie Snax.
First part time job i had when still at school was working for a fairly big retailer on the tills and shop floor etc and even though we had been under CCTV all day they still checked your lunchboxes and any bags as you were leaving for the day to check you weren’t on the rob, they also had over overzealous supervisors that would check how long you had left on your break even if you’d only just sat down 
Every job has its down sides but with driving you’d hope people could find a job that suits there’s so many avenues to try out, or if not do something else but from previous posts on this thread the office jobs don’t appear all that rosy either!
Come to hull 7.50 an hour he4e in the city of culture
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