I thought Sean Lock passed away last week
My lad got his fourth since February last week barely a month after the third one. Reckons he’ll be getting another one before the end of the year as the rates have rocketed up for his boss and it seems like his boss (O/D with a small fleet) is trying to get a feel for an hourly rate that’s fair for the drivers but doesn’t shaft him. The fact he had a vacancy he couldn’t fill for 7 weeks is also likely to fuel that decision.
I was Class One for 27 year, now I don’t drive but am thinking going back to it but… Wage rise is all good and well but it’s only a temporary bit of carrot dangling to get arses in seats. Wages don’t improve conditions. Until conditions improve, there’ll always be a driver shortage
I can understand people not wanting to come back but I still think that if they scrapped the cpc, then quite a few might come back part-time.
What would we like to see as an improvement in conditions though?
Let’s say all driving jobs paid £20ph all of a sudden… There will STILL be yards that cannot get bums on seats for love nor money, whilst other yards - quickly become the new “Dead Man’s Shoes” jobs…
Personally, I reckon being able to choose your own shift patterns - is the greater part of it.
I don’t need things like “more truckstops” or “showers that actually have knobs on” or even “Laybys that are not full of foreign artics”…
Here’s things for consideration in any would-be “Job Opportunity”.
(1) Pay - as much as possible for as few shifts as possible. I don’t mind doing longer shifts - in return for less of them to get my weekly quota of hours in… 4x12 or 3x15 is better than 5x10 or 6x8 - and will always be as far as I’m concerned. Paid breaks - would also be nice.
(2) Ease of getting-to-work.
(3) Start when I want to, open docket/overtime so I can finish when I want to as well
(4) Subsidized facilities at work, Eg. staff restaurant, vending machines, secure car parking, workplace isn’t in a bottleneck estate
(5) Managers - leave you to your own devices. As long as the job gets done and no laws get broke, - you get left alone.
(6) Other staff - get on with one, as you are no longer perceived as a threat to their livlihoods.
(7) Decent KIT
(8) Friendly, English-speaking staff. (You can be foreign, but I was brought up that it is rude to gabble on in your foreign language on the shop floor in front of home-grown staff in particular…)
(9) The firm is there for you - when the World outside does you no favours.
chooch:
I can understand people not wanting to come back but I still think that if they scrapped the cpc, then quite a few might come back part-time.
So scrapping the dcpc would be bad for wages then
Our DC has been offered 2.5% works out at 30p an hour or £12.75 a week on the basic. Needless to say we are all (hopefully) rejecting it. This from the UK,s biggest supermarket
^^^^ Tesco? I was talking to a Tesco driver who was loading at our place yesterday. He works out of Hinckley I think and has been there since God was a boy and is consequently on the old contract. I have no reason to disbelieve him when he tells me that £70k a year is easily achievable on nights on that contract without huge hours.
stevieboy308:
chooch:
I can understand people not wanting to come back but I still think that if they scrapped the cpc, then quite a few might come back part-time.So scrapping the dcpc would be bad for wages then
cant scrap the dcpc as it would stop the british international haulage sector overnight as they wouldnt be allowed too drive in european roads
scotstrucker:
cant scrap the dcpc as it would stop the british international haulage sector overnight as they wouldnt be allowed too drive in european roads
I’m not sure of that ^^^^ we see Iranian, Russian and other non EU lorries on our roads. They’ve got to cross Euroland to get here and I may be mistaken but I don’t think that they sit a DCPC.
the maoster:
^^^^ Tesco? I was talking to a Tesco driver who was loading at our place yesterday. He works out of Hinckley I think and has been there since God was a boy and is consequently on the old contract. I have no reason to disbelieve him when he tells me that £70k a year is easily achievable on nights on that contract without huge hours.
You guessed correctly. Absolutely no chance of hitting anywhere near 70k on the new contacts. You will be lucky if you get 40k.
the maoster:
scotstrucker:
cant scrap the dcpc as it would stop the british international haulage sector overnight as they wouldnt be allowed too drive in european roadsI’m not sure of that ^^^^ we see Iranian, Russian and other non EU lorries on our roads. They’ve got to cross Euroland to get here and I may be mistaken but I don’t think that they sit a DCPC.
i may be wrong but i was sure the agreement with the eu was for british drivers to continue to drive in europe like before we left they had to have the dcpc, i’m probably wrong
Then you should only need a DCPC if you desire to drive in the EU. Scrap it for domestic drivers.
Dimlaith:
Then you should only need a DCPC if you desire to drive in the EU. Scrap it for domestic drivers.
domestic drivers should be on domestic hours rules, international drivers on eu driving hours
scotstrucker:
the maoster:
scotstrucker:
cant scrap the dcpc as it would stop the british international haulage sector overnight as they wouldnt be allowed too drive in european roadsI’m not sure of that ^^^^ we see Iranian, Russian and other non EU lorries on our roads. They’ve got to cross Euroland to get here and I may be mistaken but I don’t think that they sit a DCPC.
i may be wrong but i was sure the agreement with the eu was for british drivers to continue to drive in europe like before we left they had to have the dcpc, i’m probably wrong
Honestly don’t know mate. I’m open to being corrected by anybody in the know.