Just read this and I hope the Government tells them to sort there own house out. What I mean is Money is not the answer. If pay and condition are right young people will invest £3000 of there own money? And if companies keep saying 2 years experience minimum then its easy to see where there going wrong!
I don’t think there’s a real shortage anyway what they want is over supply so they can keep wages down?
And anyway if they can afford 100K plus for a new truck surely they can pay an extra 3K to train some drivers it?
Just read this and I hope the Government tells them to sort there own house out. What I mean is Money is not the answer. If pay and condition are right young people will invest £3000 of there own money? And if companies keep saying 2 years experience minimum then its easy to see where there going wrong!
I don’t think there’s a real shortage anyway what they want is over supply so they can keep wages down?
And anyway if they can afford 100K plus for a new truck surely they can pay an extra 3K to train some drivers it?
But aren’t they justified in wanting at least 2 years experience, judging by what’s going on on our roads with inexperienced drivers?
Road Transport are the biggest bunch of cheapskate (insert naughty word of your choice)…they have the gall to want the taxpayer to subsidise them…when train companies and bus companies wanted drivers ,they hired folks in and trained them,but not road transport,cos lets be honest folks, How many of us were given the keys to the truck,and told to get on with it .The govt of whatever party should tell them to F right off.
We will take on a driver without 2 years experience and under 25, though I do stress about them more than the regular lads. Having said that, the bulk of our work is double-manned, so I get feedback from the more experienced lads and the newbies get a bit of hand-holding. If I didn’t double-man, I’d be more cautious. If you read XFmatts thread on the operators board, you get the reason why.
The 2 year thing is mostly driven by the Insurance Company and they have a lot of smart people working out the probabilites of someone having an accident based on their age/experience.
still say I learnt a lot from sitting with my old man being told why he done things a certain way, I could rope and sheet and tie dollys at 13 knew how to load distribute all thanks to being allowed to go with him on school holidays.
same as when I 1st passed the old boys would often give a bit of advice on how to do certain things which doesn’t seem to happen now.
Would it be acceptable for haulage companies to employ 18-20 year old potential drivers at a rate of £5.13p per hour? With the savings made, used to pay for those drivers licences and ongoing training for 2 years, removing the need for tax payers money being used?
weeto:
Would it be acceptable for haulage companies to employ 18-20 year old potential drivers at a rate of £5.13p per hour? With the savings made, used to pay for those drivers licences and ongoing training for 2 years, removing the need for tax payers money being used?
Yep reduced wages for training period but I don’t think your get many takers at £5.13p?
weeto:
Would it be acceptable for haulage companies to employ 18-20 year old potential drivers at a rate of £5.13p per hour? With the savings made, used to pay for those drivers licences and ongoing training for 2 years, removing the need for tax payers money being used?
Yep reduced wages for training period but I don’t think your get many takers at £5.13p?
Wouldn’t it be better than flipping burgers as the same rate, knowing at 21 you would get a good increase in wages and a job for life.
Conor:
And that is why they gain it on agency where they get to drive a wide range of vehicles and loads with the agency picking up the bill for damages.
But you learn from your mistakes, as long as nobody was hurt its OK? The agency’s providing a service.
No serious albion has got the right attitude, train and support the new drivers, continued development.
Isn’t the real problem the lack of firms dishing out full time jobs for a wage mediocre enough that the majoirity of drivers are going to move on - once they’ve got their two year’s experience in hand?
Pitch the wages too low, and you’ll only get the very young and inexperienced chasing the work.
“Too high” - and the driver taking the job will spend the rest of their life there, so no new “two year experienced” driver is thus injected into the wider economy.
Right now, there’s lots of work that needs covering at the mediocre paying yards for agencies, a few full time jobs advertised at the lower-paying yards, and a few elite paying jobs only available for contractors via word of mouth.
The only thing there’s a shortgage of is actual proper full time jobs all around. Agency don’t mind covering the low-paying yards, since the yard will have to pay whatever the agencies rates are, which is nearly always going to be more than a full timer gets.
In a perfect world - we’d all like an actual 35 hour per week full time job with unlimited overtime available upto your legal limits - paying a base rate of “teens pounds per hour” across the board.
Drivers throwing sickies to dodge nights, weekends, and the stupid O’clock starts will soon be shown the door in favour of keener drivers who don’t mind the “around the clock” aspect that is necessary to the transport sector’s smooth operation.
As fuel prices fall, the new start-ups in transport won’t be offering top dollar, but they may mop up some of the excess drivers from the pool, which finally might create enough of a shortage to raise rates for those already in work.
It could end up with this attracting people looking for a freebie rather than a serious job career. Also how long would it be before the long term feckless are forced into it with no real interest just to make the employment figures look good…
I don’t think the cost of a license puts many folk off. Its the job itself mainly the hours and the fact its seen as a heavy dirty job.
Is these people who say there is a shortage of 40000 drivers the same ones who said in December that there was no drivers to fill the shops for Christmas, don’t know about anyone else but I never saw any empty shelves
Maybe it’s the ideal time for big/medium companies to train newbies in-house? Allocate some of the savings made on running costs through low diesel price to a training budget.
Of course they all complain when fuel prices are sky high but very quiet when they are low for sustained period (now) - only human nature I suppose, but surely they could pass on some of the savings towards staff development■■?
In England thousand local men can become to lorry drivers,pass test.just need remove stupid rule-must hold licence at least 2 years.and this people in midlle ages.if work for company which just delivery to RDC,CDC NO NEEDED big,long experience.minus why some people don t want work for drivers-unsocial shift start time.it is not healthy when some drivers must start at 0100 .not correct penalty sistem.
are you believe who in Uk 40000 vacancy.and each day 40000 load was undelivered???i think no.first must conut correctly and not allowed maked scam at job sites.i know agency who everyday post some 50 or more oportunity…
