Help concering my roll over injuries please

Hi,
I’m a bit bewildered.(So nowt new then! :slight_smile: ) So i’m hoping you will be able to help me again. Basically i had a roll over in July 04. Let me explain:-

I always knew my progress concerning driving artics would be a lot slower than others. And this was because i held an irrational fear of all matters concerning a roll over situation. I think the answer to my cautious driving was quite simply-Because i don’t want to roll the [zb] over! And this was my unreasonable answer to everything. :smiley:

Well on this particular day, a workmate bought me in a book entitled BETTER DRIVING :open_mouth: (Just what was he trying to say? :open_mouth: ) I think he heard me squash the possibility of being trained to drive the silo’s in our yard. My answer would have been something along the lines of , "Top heavy. No thanks. I’m not rolling the [zb]! " I had only been driving artics for 2 months anyway. So he thought the book would be helpful.

So on my 45 minute break, whilst being loaded. I dive into the book. Wanting to go straight to the chapter on…yeh roll over! :smiley: This was chapter 3. But i stopped myself because i thought NO, BETTER NOT TEMPT FATE.So i rushed through the first two chapters. Not really reading it! :smiley: :smiley: Till i reached chapter 3. Well i can’t recall any of it now. Oops. But basically, it alleviated my fears. And i felt so much better for reading it. I felt like a weight had been lifted off my shoulders. I knew my roll over paranoia had not disappeared. But it had been reduced somewhat considerably by this book. Which had been talking a lot of sense. I think i went on to read a little of chapter 4 before it was time for me to go.

Less than an hour later. J17, M4. Approx 18.15 :arrow_right:
I’m in lane 1. A 7.5t is in lane 2, attempting to overtake me. He is his cab length ahead of me. So has a while to go yet before he overtakes me. Suddenly i hear a bang. I have time to wonder what has made this noise. I look out of my o/s window. But can see nowt but the 7.5t which is blocking the view of all else. I then look into my o/s mirror to see his n/s rear tire wobbling. Just as i have time to think he is having a blow out. His vehicle strikes me. But only on my cab. Of course this then swings the unit a little. Pointing me in a different direction. Which happened to be the bushes. :cry: :cry: :cry: I did scream when i felt the wheel ‘jump’ out of my hands. And i did put my them back! Not that it did much good. But i thought i would do my bit. Would’nt want to be seen to be slacking. :laughing: It was hard enough faced with a completely different view, in the blink of an eye. With no let up in speed.But it was even worse when i felt the trailer innocently turning thereafter!

Well as you can imagine, it took what seemed like ages to stop going through the, these don’t look like they are going to kill me bushes. I kept my eyes open. Did’nt want to miss the drama. With a hand outstretched (As in STOP! :smiley: ). I even had time to feel really silly with my hand in this position! Thinking, yeah, lota good that’s going to be if a tree or post appears! I did’nt think i was to be a goner. But when the bushes got more dense. And it started to go dark in the day… Well i did think i’d got it wrong! But it was just the bushes! :sunglasses:

Lots of people came to help which was nice. Maybe they thought i’d perished coz they wernt exactly rushing towards me! And their body language spoke volumes.I was worried my head was half hanging off (no, i REALLY WAS!) when i seen them coz i could feel lots of blood running down my face from a cut in my head. I also broke a bone in my hand. Bent my hand backwards on the windscreen, i think. Breaking my fall. The engine was still running. But i couldnt turn it off- Blood in eyes. Bad hand. Everyone was concerned it was going to blow. It must do in the movies. I got out via the sun roof.

What actually happened was a guy driving car in the 3rd lane. Doing at least 100mph. Crashed into the central reservation (the bang). Then got himself stuck on the bar that runs between the two axles on 7.5t (causing that tire wobble). And when he had somehow detatched himself, this then ‘released’ the 7.5t which then went into me. The car driver has since had a mini stroke. So there is speculation that this may have been the cause of this accident. I think he got banned anyway.

No-one else was hurt. Tho 7.5t man had a sore finger! Back to the reason i posted. I also sustained bad whiplash(and various bruising!) But i am still suffering all these months later. My hand hurts every day. Does not straighten fully. Despite being told by hospital doctor that it would. Grrr! Now my shoulder and arm feels like it has been put on backwards. A good position for my hand is a bad position for my shoulder. Hurts too. And my head often starts wobbling like those annoying nodding things people sometims have in the back of their cars. All due to re-occuring whiplash injuries, i’m told. I have to see a specialist. But i still have ages to wait. And this morning, returning home, i had to brake in my car, so hard to avoid going into the back of this very very unroadworthy, someone has hit the back of this already, look at the state of that car. (All because he wanted to do a u-turn in the middle of the road. So he braked hard at speed! I nearly wet myself. Not to mention cutting me up on a roundabout before that!). That i hurt my ■■■■■■■ injuries. Enough is enough!

My questions are:-
1.Anyone had bad whiplash? Please could you tell me all about it. I have since read that it can last up to two years. (gulp!)

2.All those who have ever had broken bones. Did they heal ok? I have never before had anything broken.

3.Could you tell me of any accidents you have had in your truck? What injuries did you sustain? Sorry to be so macabre. But i’d rather know than not know! Plus i imagine jack-knifing to be a million times worse than a roll over.

4.Does anyone drive with a slight disability? E.g athritus(bad spelling!) in hands. One of our drivers has a false leg! Dodgy knees ex MOD’s? Make me feel better. I feel past my sell by date!

5.Do you wear your seat belt in truck?

Jacqueline ■■■

Jacqueline, I can answer 1-2 of your questions with broken bones you

will find that later on in life where the bones were broken you get

a form of arthritis which depending how advanced this is will affect

your use of that particular bone, For better and helpful information

you should speak with a orthopaedic doctor , I have a disabilty

because of this type of illness has attacked the bones that were

injured by being broken and due to the way I carried out the work

I did as a member of HMF;s, you also asked about the seat belt

my answer is yes I do use it as I learnt from other peoples

misfortunes who did not use the seat-belt, also here in the

GERMAN illness system it can be held against you when you put a

claim for injuries and you did not use the seat-belt.

Years ago one of the trucking mags did a report about a guy who

drove with one of his hands only haveing a attachment with a holder

which fitted over a special fitting on his steering wheel and he drove

okay . I hope that my small amount of information helps.

jacqueline:
Plus i imagine jack-knifing to be a million times worse than a roll over.

Try doing both at once!

Luckily though, there wasn’t a scratch on me. I drive slower in the wet nowadays.

Vince

Blimey!!! :open_mouth: :open_mouth: I can’t believe that I’m reading a post like this,5 years and 1 day,after my serious accident,which left me in intensive care for 6 days,which meant I lost 6 days of my life.

Let me explain…

Yesterday,was 5 years to the day and date of a serious accident I had on Princessway,on the Team Valley in Gateshead.Princessway,for those of you who don’t know the road,but will have seen it dozens of times,is the one that runs parallel to the A1.

It was 06.10,dark,and not the best of days,when for reasons that are still unexplainable,I managed to hit a car transporter.As the unit jacknifed left,I was still travelling forward,which meant I was thrown out of the cab.The ERF that I had,was a total write off,to the point that all that was really salvagable,was the engine.(And a bloody fine one it was too.A 14ltr ■■■■■■■ ■■■■■■■.)

When I came round,strangely,the guy I hit,I used his phone to phone my parents,who only live a mile away,despite the fact I’m married,but live in Yorkshire,so at this point,there wasn’t a lot my wife could have done.

When they arrived,I was just being put in the ambulance,and taken to the QE hospital in Gateshead.At A&E,chest drains were put straight into my lungs,with no anasthetic,because I was bleeding into my lungs,in effect,drowning.At this point I blacked out,I suppose the same effect you have if you die.

6 days later.I awoke in the General hospital,over the water in Newcastle,in intensive care,apparantly,after a police ■■■■■■ in another ambulance.My wife was now with me,after a police ■■■■■■ from West Yorkshire,with a change over at Rainton services,(Sounds like a train service. :laughing: ) into a Northumbria police ■■■■■■ Cosworth,and a 140mph dash to Gateshead.

I don’t wish to elaborate,but my injuries were:2 collapsed lungs,6 bones broken in my right hand,my left shoulder all out of shape,a 2" circular ‘scalp’ on my head,and cuts and bruises.

I find the problems I have now are,aching knees,prone to chest infections,and that’s about all.I have been advised by the doctors,that I will suffer from arthritis in later life,but then again,don’t we all.

I have to say,that if it wasn’t for the fact that our NHS IS the best in the world,I wouldn’t be here today,and I owe all the staff concerned,a huge thank you. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

3 things that are funny/bizarre out of all this,is the fact that the sister in charge in the intensive care ward,was married to the first fireman that found me,and about 12 months later,I resumed my hobby of competing in motor racing,which I still do,and,as once was said,‘Everyone has their 15 minutes of fame,’ I made the 2 local papers,(The Chronicle and The Journal.) and also on Metro radio.I still have the newspaper cuttings.

Ken.

YES you are so right our NHS system is one of the best ,but we

need to put more money into the system so that those A&E UNITS

that have been closed can reopen also that we keep the quaility

that we have achievied up to the standard ,plus so our trained

people do not have to work as a private nurse just so that they

can earn enough to live on.

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Jeez, Quinny, you just sent shivers up my spine mate!!!
I was 1 of the firemen who attended that accident and we never knew how you got on afterwards.
Very glad to hear your doing alright and still driving trucks.
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Just over a year ago my wife broke & dislocated her shoulder when falling off her motor bike, being a nurse in a forensic psychiatric unit she needs a lot of strength & mobility & lost over 6 month off work & then had 6 months before she was coincided fit to do restraint etc & that means do her job.
She still has off days but they are far from common now.
For my part I broke my elbow, I was told I could lose up to 70% of it’s mobility as a result, but other than the odd creak & twinge of discomfort , nothing, plus I have over 95% mobility.
I also had a few minor mishaps when I was younger most involving motorbikes & some the total lack of H & S in building trade at the time, so I get arthritis in both my knees & a slight discomfort from time to time from damage done to my spine, (My back bent a crash barrier.)

zebadee:
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Jeez, Quinny, you just sent shivers up my spine mate!!!
I was 1 of the firemen who attended that accident and we never knew how you got on afterwards.
Very glad to hear your doing alright and still driving trucks.
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Hee Ha I bet Quinney was wearing his hi viz!!!
That’s some story Quinny I really am glad you here to tell it bud!

Apart from a broken light and another when a mirror got it, the only accident,(touch wood!) that I have been involved in with a truck was last august on the M20 to cut a long story short a lass under took me and I swear I didn’t see her but as she pulled out I pulled in and a van hit her, I was cleared at the scene but It was a long run down to Reims and back I must say.
Before I drove trucks I taught horse riding, specifically showjumping and a horse fell when I was riding it and I was fool enough not to roll out of the way and my right leg got smashed and I nearly lost my leg but I am an arrogant mare and the leg is still there all be it with a metal frame holding it together It causes me problems espesially as two other riding incidents left me with a damaged back but I do really well.
I was registered disabled at 22 but was having none of it and obviously I have arthritus due to the obuse I have given myself I broke the other leg 2 yrs ago jumping down a loading bay and landing on choke chains. I am really proud of the way I have managed and my problems and I have to work together dispite the fact I do nothing but moan. I am sure that I will really suffer later and that the R.S.I, I have been diognosed with has a lot to do with my irregular posture due to previous injuries but I have done so much! when I had been written off so every year worked is one I wouldn’t have had and given some of the things I have done with some of the beasts I have ridden I SO got off lightly!!! :wink: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Give it time to heal and work with it.

i wouldnt feel alone jacqueline. we are supposedly an unhealthy bunch according to the papers and i think a lot of us have various injuries. in my case, bad back and deterioration of the patella. i do have a bad shoulder too but the army quacks told me i didnt so i guess the pain and cracking noises are imaginary :confused:
you are definately not the only person here with pains etc

Jacqueline,

What I would say is, if there is a claim involved, don’t listen to the ‘you’ve got 3 years to register it’ line. I am in the position where I didn’t do much about when I was injured until about the 2 years point.

I am now in the position of my first choice solicitor saying there is a very good case to answer but not enough time for them to prepare the case and have it registered before the 3 year point! They’ve advised me to look for a solicitor ‘who is not as busy’ but that’s easier said than done. :angry:

The only major accident I have had was where I had my armed yanked out of its socket by a passing curtainsiders’ straps and crushed between two lorries, at the same time.

As far as the injuries go I wasn’t off work that long, only 6 weeks, but I still feel it on cold mornings. I’m still young but that was most painful thing I’ve had in my life. I think I’m allergic to pain now :blush: :blush:

It has been difficult to lift things with that side and for a time I asked to go out on “easy” jobs with work to get back into the routine. Ha, yeah right. Got back and did a 7 day stint! Oh well.

Anyway. I have to be careful if I’m lifting anything as I don’t want to cause any more problems, but at this rate I’ll have to start going to the gym as I’ve been taking it too easy and have put on weight :frowning:

I’d give you more info, but that would have to be another time :unamused:

smeserver:
I had my armed yanked out of its socket

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt!! :cry: It took a long time and a lot of pain for me to realise I wasn’t going to be a Rugby League Pro :imp:

And so here I am, a knackered shoulder and 5 titanium screws holding it in place, for now!

marcustandy:

smeserver:
I had my armed yanked out of its socket

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt!! :cry: It took a long time and a lot of pain for me to realise I wasn’t going to be a Rugby League Pro :imp:

And so here I am, a knackered shoulder and 5 titanium screws holding it in place, for now!

  1. Don’t play rugby
  2. Don’t have the screws holding it in place
  3. Are you allergic to pain like me?? :wink: :open_mouth:

It was a very difficult post to write because of the subject matter. Made me feel like the grim reaper! (And i was also sooooo shy to post another topic!) Yes by suffering in silence, i was starting to feel isolated. I felt like i had let myself down by not fully recovering for the job i loved doing. So i’m finding your replies and of all your imperfections, extremely helpful! Also i am speechless by it all. You lot are amazing :exclamation:

I was not wearing a seatbelt at the time of the accident because there was not one fitted. So i am ok concerning my claim, which is ongoing. Some drivers won’t wear them because they wish to be flexible if an accident occurs . And asking many after my accident, i could find not one driver who wore one in their lorry :open_mouth: ! On this occasion, my injuries would have been a lot worse, had i been wearing one. But as you have pointed out, i would not be covered for insurance purposes. But both options seem so valid! :confused:

What was your 1st day back like after these horrific accidents?

Thank you for your replies ■■■

jacqueline:
It was a very difficult post to write because of the subject matter. Made me feel like the grim reaper! (And i was also sooooo shy to post another topic!) Yes by suffering in silence, i was starting to feel isolated. I felt like i had let myself down by not fully recovering for the job i loved doing. So i’m finding your replies and of all your imperfections, extremely helpful! Also i am speechless by it all. You lot are amazing :exclamation:

I was not wearing a seatbelt at the time of the accident because there was not one fitted. So i am ok concerning my claim, which is ongoing. Some drivers won’t wear them because they wish to be flexible if an accident occurs . And asking many after my accident, i could find not one driver who wore one in their lorry :open_mouth: ! On this occasion, my injuries would have been a lot worse, had i been wearing one. But as you have pointed out, i would not be covered for insurance purposes. But both options seem so valid! :confused:

What was your 1st day back like after these horrific accidents?

Thank you for your replies ■■■

Whatever your injuries it can take a long time to get “back into the saddle” and you need to be well enough to go back to work, despite the feeling you’re letting them down by being off sick.

On the subject of seatbelts. I drive MANs & Iveco 7.5t’s at work, and only the MANs have seatbelts. I do prefer wearing seatbelts, but if it isn’t fitted there isn’t much I could do. If you didn’t have a seatbelt then I would have thought you were very lucky to get out in your condition, despite the pain which is always going to be there…

I’ve had about 3 roll-over accidents so far in my life. Two of them I was securely strapped in, and both those times was in a Landrover. The first one was when I was in the front passenger seat and the ground collapsed underneath it on a mountain road. It rolled quite a few times before landing back on it’s feet at the bottom of the hill against a tree. The driver managed to start the engine and drove it back leaking it’s fluids everywhere back to race control - he was a photographer at the time. All his gear had been crushed as it was on the roofrack :frowning: I probably only lived then because he had 5-point harness seatbelts in his LR and they were well padded. It was a nervewracking experierence, but I was not harmed. Took me a while to speak, let alone get out of the car!

The other two were less serious but the other LR one was my fault and it happened off-tarmac. Hanging from the seatbelt calmly asking for help on the CB to stop their lunch and pull me back onto my wheels was apparently very calming for my passenger… :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

The most recent accident I’ve had is my most severe and I could very well have been killed. If the truck had been any closer or I had been wearing my safety gear (ie full harness gear) then I could have been dragged under the rear axle of the truck that hit me. I am not going to go back over it for now as I’ve only just stopped thinking about it - over a year later!

Hmm. I’m good at damaging Landrovers :open_mouth: You might not think that it was damaged enough if it could drive back but it drained all its fluids there where it landed and we managed to get back before it seized. New Engine time… I seem to go through a few of those :frowning:

Sorry, going off track again… :laughing: :laughing:

I had a similar accident to Jaqueline about 5 years ago. Travelling north on the M5 in an empty(luckily) chemical tanker, traffic was not heavy, and there was nothing within 100 metres of me. I looked in my o/s mirror and spotted a very fast moving vehicle in lane 3, and being in lane 1 thought nothing of it, apart from the fact that he was well outside the speed limit. About 3 seconds later, I felt a nudge on the vehicle, and then felt the unit pointing toward the central barrier. Luckily, I managed to right it, only because I was empty, and managed to get onto the hard shoulder. Sat there for what seemed like hours, pondering on what had happened, when the driver of the car came running up to the cab, to see if I was ok. I told him I needed a short while to gather my senses, and he said not to worry as he had seen the BMW plough into me, and I had done nothing wrong. After a while, I got out to inspect any damage, which turned out to be a bent under-run bar on n/s, all 3 o/s trailer tyres burst, and a massive dent in the fuel tank. I then found the driver of the BMW, which was parked facing the opposite direction on the hard shoulder, sat on the embankment with his head buried in his hands. I asked him if he`d fallen asleep at the wheel, and he told me that he was changing station on his radio, which is what he also told the police! Fortunately, there were no injuries, but it made me shiver to think of the consequences had I been loaded, as the job involved carrying chemical waste, which meant some very nasty substances. I had a letter from the police a few weeks later, explaining that they were not prosecuting the driver of the BMW, but enforcing him to attend a safe driving course - wonder if the boot had been on the other foot, would I have got the same treatment. I very much doubt it
Regards
Trev

never had any accidents like you lot have explained , plenty of near misses though :confused:

Whatever your injuries it can take a long time to get “back into the saddle”

I was back at work after 8 weeks driving a Transit,and another 2 weeks later,I was back behind the wheel of an artic.

Ken.

brit pete:
Jacqueline, I can answer 1-2 of your questions with broken bones you

will find that later on in life where the bones were broken you get

a form of arthritis which depending how advanced this is will affect

your use of that particular bone, For better and helpful information

you should speak with a orthopaedic doctor , I have a disabilty

because of this type of illness has attacked the bones that were

injured by being broken and due to the way I carried out the work

I did as a member of HMF;s, you also asked about the seat belt

my answer is yes I do use it as I learnt from other peoples

misfortunes who did not use the seat-belt, also here in the

GERMAN illness system it can be held against you when you put a

claim for injuries and you did not use the seat-belt.

Years ago one of the trucking mags did a report about a guy who

drove with one of his hands only haveing a attachment with a holder

which fitted over a special fitting on his steering wheel and he drove

okay . I hope that my small amount of information helps.

Orthopaedic doc- Never even thought to ask my doctor of my specialist’s identity. Ooops. So thanks. I was so keen to get out of the doctor’s room!

Love hearing about the disadvantaged prevailing!