help a brother

right, feel free to laugh if your a seasoned tramper at what am about to type but i need a we hand answering some questions. doing day work for years out of sites/ quarrys / farms etc and even if i work 12 hours i only have the odd stop for a 45 to deal with and kept me legal. but, ive lined up a bit of tramping and a new ball game.

  • does a 9 hour daily rest need to be compensated for at the week end■■?
  • if so can this be added to the frist week away when am on a 24 or left til i get home the second week and added to the 45
    *is 3 days off at the end of a two week trip ok to cover all this
  • and fianly is it fact or fiction that when u put in ur digi card at the start of day that u have 15 hours before u must stop even if u havent used your 9 hours due to waitin/other work etc.

thank you all for reading and to those that will type back lol my laptop runs on a coal and turf mixture so if i dont reply am not being rude :laughing:

voc-hoc:
right, feel free to laugh if your a seasoned tramper at what am about to type but i need a we hand answering some questions. doing day work for years out of sites/ quarrys / farms etc and even if i work 12 hours i only have the odd stop for a 45 to deal with and kept me legal. but, ive lined up a bit of tramping and a new ball game.

  • does a 9 hour daily rest need to be compensated for at the week end■■?

No, reduced daily rest periods do not require compensation.

voc-hoc:

  • and fianly is it fact or fiction that when u put in ur digi card at the start of day that u have 15 hours before u must stop even if u havent used your 9 hours due to waitin/other work etc.

You must have 11 hours rest completed before the end of the 24-hour period which begins when you start your shift after a rest period, that leaves 13 hours for duty. Three times between weekly rest periods you can reduce that to 9 hours, that leaves a maximum of 15 hours duty. If your shift is more than 13 hours, even by just 1 minute you can no longer fit 11 hours rest into the required period so will use one of your allowed reductions. Doesn’t matter whether you have used all your driving time or not, you cannot do a shift of more than 15 hours, or 13 if you have used your 3 reduced daily rests.

voc-hoc:
right, feel free to laugh if your a seasoned tramper at what am about to type but i need a we hand answering some questions. doing day work for years out of sites/ quarrys / farms etc and even if i work 12 hours i only have the odd stop for a 45 to deal with and kept me legal. but, ive lined up a bit of tramping and a new ball game.

  • does a 9 hour daily rest need to be compensated for at the week end■■?

No, reduced daily rest periods do not need to be compensated for, only reduced weekly rest periods have to be compensated for.

voc-hoc:

  • if so can this be added to the frist week away when am on a 24 or left til i get home the second week and added to the 45
    *is 3 days off at the end of a two week trip ok to cover all this

N/A see above.

voc-hoc:

  • and fianly is it fact or fiction that when u put in ur digi card at the start of day that u have 15 hours before u must stop even if u havent used your 9 hours due to waitin/other work etc.

You must have 11 hours daily rest within the 24 hour period from start of shift, this can be reduced to 9 hours 3 times between weekly rest periods.

Basically you must start your 11 hour daily rest period no later than 13 hours from the start of shift or 15 hours from start of shift if you’re having a reduced daily rest period.

Coffeeholic:

voc-hoc:
right, feel free to laugh if your a seasoned tramper at what am about to type but i need a we hand answering some questions. doing day work for years out of sites/ quarrys / farms etc and even if i work 12 hours i only have the odd stop for a 45 to deal with and kept me legal. but, ive lined up a bit of tramping and a new ball game.

  • does a 9 hour daily rest need to be compensated for at the week end■■?

No, reduced daily rest periods do not require compensation.

voc-hoc:

  • and fianly is it fact or fiction that when u put in ur digi card at the start of day that u have 15 hours before u must stop even if u havent used your 9 hours due to waitin/other work etc.

You must have 11 hours rest completed before the end of the 24-hour period which begins when you start your shift after a rest period, that leaves 13 hours for duty. Three times between weekly rest periods you can reduce that to 9 hours, that leaves a maximum of 15 hours duty. If your shift is more than 13 hours, even by just 1 minute you can no longer fit 11 hours rest into the required period so will use one of your allowed reductions. Doesn’t matter whether you have used all your driving time or not, you cannot do a shift of more than 15 hours, or 13 if you have used your 3 reduced daily rests.

I understand his Question if he must do a 9 hour break after his Shift before weekend Break starts or if he can start his weekend Break straight after the End of his Shift

Weekend rest starts at the end of your last shift, 5th or 6th card. You must have at least one full 45 hrs rest period within two working weeks. The other can be reduced to a minimum of 24 hrs if required

and I would also say, your 45 does not have to be a “weekend”

this is frist class boys and my head is taking it all on board. thanks for putting me right as if them vosa boys had stepped up on the cab they wub hay had a feild day at my faults and poor owl me sitting saying NO BODY TOLD ME might not have let me away lol

Driver-Once-More:
and I would also say, your 45 does not have to be a “weekend”

correct and also if you think you might get held up for three hours ( uninterrupted ) whack it on break ( SKIVE ) then have 9hours off for a split daily rest! 3 hours plus 9 hours equals 11 hours off! Four nines theoretically or like you say if you’re abroad and you get parked up on a Wednesday for twenty four hours, carry on with another six cards! Easy! :grimacing: :grimacing: the lads and info on here are top notch lad you only need ask pal! :laughing: :sunglasses:

Fatboy slimslow:

Driver-Once-More:
and I would also say, your 45 does not have to be a “weekend”

correct and also if you think you might get held up for three hours ( uninterrupted ) whack it on break ( SKIVE ) then have 9hours off for a split daily rest! 3 hours plus 9 hours equals 11 hours off! Four nines theoretically

Correct. at least 3 hours during the shift and at least 9 hours at the end and that is a split daily rest which could be done 6 times between weekly rest periods.

Fatboy slimslow:
or like you say if you’re abroad and you get parked up on a Wednesday for twenty four hours, carry on with another six cards! Easy! :grimacing: :grimacing: the lads and info on here are top notch lad you only need ask pal! :laughing: :sunglasses:

Only if you had a full weekly rest for the previous week. If you only had a reduced weekly rest the previous week you would need to start a full before midnight on the Sunday and couldn’t do the full 144 hours between weekly rests.

Incidentally you can use more than 6 cards, and drive on more than 6 days, between weekly rest periods. It’s a maximum of 144 hours between the end of one weekly rest to the start of the next. So, if you started at 06:00 Monday you would have until 06:00 Sunday to begin your next and could drive on all 7 days and use more than 6 cards doing so.

thanks fatboy slimshow. aye the advice is frist class on here its just making that step to ask as my owl boy always told me it was a sign of weakness lol :slight_smile:

voc-hoc:
thanks fatboy slimshow. aye the advice is frist class on here its just making that step to ask as my owl boy always told me it was a sign of weakness lol :slight_smile:

Your “owl boy” was wrong, asking for help isnt a sign of weakness, its a sign of intelligence !

Theres no such thing as a silly quesion if you dont know the answer.

There is though silly answers to most questions as ive no doubt youve noticed. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: