Spardo:
Fascinating, Patrick, shame I couldn’t get the print large enough to read. Do you know what the wagon is? Love the lunch break, a glass of something red with a sandwich.
It’s a M25/26 Pacific, the backbone for so many heavy haulage operations, most of them were fitted with diesel engines, as the original Hall-Scot petrol engine wasn’t exactly that good on fuel consumption, it was more a matter of “how many gallons to the mile”
Top stuff Patrick you must have found another shoe box ,a couple of points the wind screens appear to drop quite away I.m assuming to give the driver vision for the front of the truck when in a tight manovering situation or are they hinged to get some cooler air in also the truck on jacks appears to have what us in Oz call a West Coast type mirror mounted on the near side on a LHD unit I didn’t know they were around in that era.
Great stuff there! If I perfectly remember such haulages with Diamond-T, Ward-LaFrance and Willèmes (until c. 2000 for these), I strangely have no recollection seeing Pacifics on French roads.
DIG:
… also the truck on jacks appears to have what us in Oz call a West Coast type mirror mounted on the near side on a LHD unit I didn’t know they were around in that era.
Dig
Not just in Oz Dig, I have always known them as that, right from the first time they appeared in Britain with the Ford D-Type range. I loved them, and when I bought a WW2 4x4 Morris Commercial reccer, the first thing I did was change the little round things that would have done credit to a lady’s powder compact, to West Coast Mirrors complete with mounting and bracing arms, bought from a Ford write-off in a scrapyard.
For the 2nd time in 2 days I am using the word ‘fascinating’.
Thanks for that Dean, and I wonder if we have discovered a clue as to why Dig, and I, thought we had spotted a West Coast mirror on that old French model that Patrick posted. There are 2 anchorage points for mirrors on the right hand side of the cab so comparatively easy to replace 2 small with one large one?
@Patrick, yes, the crew cab with no driver’s door, entry a little further back, and on the passenger side, even further back. But did the driver have to squeeze between his seat and the bonnet? One reason why I won’t be buying one.
And no fear of upsetting this old pensioner mate, I hate popcorn, just like chewing air to my taste.
Spardo:
Fascinating, Patrick, shame I couldn’t get the print large enough to read. Do you know what the wagon is? Love the lunch break, a glass of something red with a sandwich.
It’s a M25/26 Pacific, the backbone for so many heavy haulage operations, most of them were fitted with diesel engines, as the original Hall-Scot petrol engine wasn’t exactly that good on fuel consumption, it was more a matter of “how many gallons to the mile”
Top stuff Patrick you must have found another shoe box ,a couple of points the wind screens appear to drop quite away I.m assuming to give the driver vision for the front of the truck when in a tight manovering situation or are they hinged to get some cooler air in also the truck on jacks appears to have what us in Oz call a West Coast type mirror mounted on the near side on a LHD unit I didn’t know they were around in that era.
Dig
Just trying to keep it interesting DIG
I can only assume the windscreen dropped that far for the two reasons you’ve mentioned, although they probably had to rely on a mate during winter!
Spardo:
That middle Scania looks a bit like your original colours, John, couldn’t be though, could it, with all those lights.
It actually looks like the Scania Ligro trading in the South of Holland had, although that was a bonneted 4 series. I’ll see if I can dig up some pic’s of it.
Great stuff there! If I perfectly remember such haulages with Diamond-T, Ward-LaFrance and Willèmes (until c. 2000 for these), I strangely have no recollection seeing Pacifics on French roads.
Some of them used them well into the 60s, didn’t they? Must have been quite a sight to behold when these things passed by!
Spardo:
For the 2nd time in 2 days I am using the word ‘fascinating’.
Thanks for that Dean, and I wonder if we have discovered a clue as to why Dig, and I, thought we had spotted a West Coast mirror on that old French model that Patrick posted. There are 2 anchorage points for mirrors on the right hand side of the cab so comparatively easy to replace 2 small with one large one?
@Patrick, yes, the crew cab with no driver’s door, entry a little further back, and on the passenger side, even further back. But did the driver have to squeeze between his seat and the bonnet? One reason why I won’t be buying one.
And no fear of upsetting this old pensioner mate, I hate popcorn, just like chewing air to my taste.
Those Pacifics were awesome machines being 6x6 and if they went down in soft ground on the near side they would slowly pull themselves out.
Bit more about them.
DIG:
… also the truck on jacks appears to have what us in Oz call a West Coast type mirror mounted on the near side on a LHD unit I didn’t know they were around in that era.
Dig
Not just in Oz Dig, I have always known them as that, right from the first time they appeared in Britain with the Ford D-Type range. I loved them, and when I bought a WW2 4x4 Morris Commercial reccer, the first thing I did was change the little round things that would have done credit to a lady’s powder compact, to West Coast Mirrors complete with mounting and bracing arms, bought from a Ford write-off in a scrapyard.
Thanks David they have been around a lot longer than I thought.
Top stuff Dean0 and Patrick,I haven’t had anything to do with these brands of Pacific a few bonneted jobs over here on the oil patch as winch trucks the brand certainly have some pedigree.
Spardo:
That middle Scania looks a bit like your original colours, John, couldn’t be though, could it, with all those lights.
It actually looks like the Scania Ligro trading in the South of Holland had, although that was a bonneted 4 series. I’ll see if I can dig up some pic’s of it.
Here’s some footage I found of the Ligro Scania that I mentioned, courtesy of bouwmachineweb.com and Ditzj.de
After the Scania era ended, they had a MAN for a while, but it seemed problematic, so ended up buying a Mercedes which does the job without any effort nor is it causing any problems according to the driver.
Spardo:
For the 2nd time in 2 days I am using the word ‘fascinating’.
Thanks for that Dean, and I wonder if we have discovered a clue as to why Dig, and I, thought we had spotted a West Coast mirror on that old French model that Patrick posted. There are 2 anchorage points for mirrors on the right hand side of the cab so comparatively easy to replace 2 small with one large one?
@Patrick, yes, the crew cab with no driver’s door, entry a little further back, and on the passenger side, even further back. But did the driver have to squeeze between his seat and the bonnet? One reason why I won’t be buying one.
And no fear of upsetting this old pensioner mate, I hate popcorn, just like chewing air to my taste.
Those Pacifics were awesome machines being 6x6 and if they went down in soft ground on the near side they would slowly pull themselves out.
Bit more about them.
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Properly engineered and they could handle much more than just haul tanks
