pv83:
Do you ever pay attention Johnny? This has been discussed many pages ago… or is your short term memory not working properly
Anyway, you forgot to put some “big” names in your list, sorry to correct you on a couple of names mate,
Nooteboom, my weapon of choice, even someone like you can figure the workings out, strongly built (especially the older ones), good aftersales.
Broshuis, when they came out with their SL axles that surely rocked the boat. Not as tough built as Nooteboom, but good aftersales without the arrogancy of Nooteboom
Faymonville, aka playmobille… only worked with a lowloader of them once, and I did’t find it as easy to work with as a Nooteboom, but they do sell a lot of trailers nowadays, real bargain seller they are.
For the reallly heavy stuff there are only a couple of names that come to mind,
Scheuerle
Goldhofer
Nicolas, although they’re going into administration next year
Cometto
The above are the main competitors on the HH market, and then there are others for those who want more a specialised product,
King, solid, bullet proof trailers, however, most of them were sold only in the UK
Andover, see above
Doll, they are the nr.1 in dollies, used for timber transport and long beams and such
Well I at least try for a complete amateur, but you know, in my old age… short-term memory is erm not so good. I don’t remember such a list as the one you have kindy posted and also Danne’s input about VANG in the Norwegian/Swedish market.
pv83:
Forgot to start with the history of Broshuis…
So here’s a brief bit of the remarkable history…
Back in 1885 Broshuis was founded in Muiden, some 15 miles east of Amsterdam, and at first they were just a blacksmith, which slowly led them to build horse carts.
All went well and in 1926 they took on the opportunity to rebuild T-Fords into a lorry (2t), one thing led to another and in 1929 the first trailer was build.
From there on things only got brighter, and in 1958 the very first low loader was introduced, just a few years later another novelty was added to the list, the first extendable trailer!
After all this, the production increased and the decision was made to move to Kampen where a whole new chapter was about to begin.
In 1999 there was another novelty to add to the list, the first triple extendable trailer! Unheard of at the time, but time flies, we’re onto trailers that can extend four times now…
Shortly after the recession their biggest novelty was introduced, the SL range, with independent wheel suspension, and in 2014 the SL Air was introduced, same principle but now available with air suspension, this all leading to getting a load capacity of 12 to 14t per axle.
Aussietruckphotos:
Dad was hauling a fridge set last week in Tasmania when I took these photos… The bales aren’t really that heavy but they are over size.
H…
Cheers for posting mate Interesting axle set-up on that first wagon…
Aussietruckphotos:
Dad was hauling a fridge set last week in Tasmania when I took these photos… The bales aren’t really that heavy but they are over size.
H…
Cheers for posting mate Interesting axle set-up on that first wagon…
Cheers, Patrick
Good pics ATP
Patrick I think it would be a configuration similar to this one with one less axle and a shorter dolly goose neck, just the angle the photo was taken.
This is a fairly standard Aus configuration.
Cheers Dig
Aussietruckphotos:
Dad was hauling a fridge set last week in Tasmania when I took these photos… The bales aren’t really that heavy but they are over size.
H…
Cheers for posting mate Interesting axle set-up on that first wagon…
Cheers, Patrick
Good pics ATP
Patrick I think it would be a configuration similar to this one with one less axle and a shorter dolly goose neck, just the angle the photo was taken.
This is a fairly standard Aus configuration.
Cheers Dig
Aah right, cheers DIG. What can you legally carry with such a axle set-up?
pv83:
Do you ever pay attention Johnny? This has been discussed many pages ago… or is your short term memory not working properly
Anyway, you forgot to put some “big” names in your list, sorry to correct you on a couple of names mate,
Nooteboom, my weapon of choice, even someone like you can figure the workings out, strongly built (especially the older ones), good aftersales.
Broshuis, when they came out with their SL axles that surely rocked the boat. Not as tough built as Nooteboom, but good aftersales without the arrogancy of Nooteboom
Faymonville, aka playmobille… only worked with a lowloader of them once, and I did’t find it as easy to work with as a Nooteboom, but they do sell a lot of trailers nowadays, real bargain seller they are.
For the reallly heavy stuff there are only a couple of names that come to mind,
Scheuerle
Goldhofer
Nicolas, although they’re going into administration next year
Cometto
The above are the main competitors on the HH market, and then there are others for those who want more a specialised product,
King, solid, bullet proof trailers, however, most of them were sold only in the UK
Andover, see above
Doll, they are the nr.1 in dollies, used for timber transport and long beams and such
Oh the cometto! One of our pilotcardriver is an really old heavyhaulguy and he had in the 70is an 300ton cometto and a Volvo N1233 to pull with. He got stories to tell about the cometto. Best trailer ever made if you ask him.
He often start his coments with when i was on the heavy
Know him for al my life top bloke!
He after that started doing smaller stuff with an 4axl lbs 111scania drawbar and a 4axl swedish made Hafo. Al built in 1979 and the Hafo still lives and is used by a local company to us.
I try to dig up a photo of that truck it looks really cool.
Danne
Dirty Dan:
Oh the cometto! One of our pilotcardriver is an really old heavyhaulguy and he had in the 70is an 300ton cometto and a Volvo N1233 to pull with. He got stories to tell about the cometto. Best trailer ever made if you ask him.
He often start his coments with when i was on the heavy
Know him for al my life top bloke!
He after that started doing smaller stuff with an 4axl lbs 111scania drawbar and a 4axl swedish made Hafo. Al built in 1979 and the Hafo still lives and is used by a local company to us.
I try to dig up a photo of that truck it looks really cool.
Danne
Does he read this forum Danne?
really old heavyhaulguy
, he must really love you.
Of course if he was driving in the 70s, he must be really, really old.
Only joking mate, and I do look forward to your picture of his Scania/Hafo.
On a more serious note, and for all of you really, are there many car pilots who are ex heavy haulers? I was once offered a job, when I came to live in France, as such by an English haulier in Derbyshire but I declined when I realised that I was expected to use my own car and the money didn’t cover it.
I think ex drivers with experience would be very useful, knowing as they would what clearance of various kinds is needed.
I’ve added the web site links to the Heavy Haulage trailer list Patrick posted.
Nooteboom, my weapon of choice, even someone like you can figure the workings out, strongly built (especially the older ones), good aftersales. https://www.nooteboom.com/
Broshuis, when they came out with their SL axles that surely rocked the boat. Not as tough built as Nooteboom, but good aftersales without the arrogancy of Nooteboom https://www.broshuis.com/
Faymonville, aka playmobille… only worked with a lowloader of them once, and I did’t find it as easy to work with as a Nooteboom, but they do sell a lot of trailers nowadays, real bargain seller they are. https://www.faymonville.com/trailers/
For the really heavy stuff there are only a couple of names that come to mind,
Aussietruckphotos:
Dad was hauling a fridge set last week in Tasmania when I took these photos… The bales aren’t really that heavy but they are over size.
H…
Cheers for posting mate Interesting axle set-up on that first wagon…
Cheers, Patrick
Good pics ATP
Patrick I think it would be a configuration similar to this one with one less axle and a shorter dolly goose neck, just the angle the photo was taken.
This is a fairly standard Aus configuration.
Cheers Dig
Aah right, cheers DIG. What can you legally carry with such a axle set-up?
I had a quick look at the West Aus max axle loading for low loaders or as they prefer to call it “extras mass permit” it can differ from state to state but the pic ATP posted would be as follows
Steer 6tonns Drive 18.5 tonns Dolly 18tonns and Tri group 27Tonnes giving a total of 69.5tonns
The one I posted of one of Bills photos with the quad group is similar but is allowed 36tonns on the quad giving a total 78.5 tons gross,
But it states that 90 .5 is allowable which means to me that as long as you pay some money for a permit the bridges get stronger.
The fourth photo of ATPs shows just the quad low loader no dolly so take out the 18ton allowed for the dolly and your legal with a gross 60.5 tons. :
Dirty Dan:
Oh the cometto! One of our pilotcardriver is an really old heavyhaulguy and he had in the 70is an 300ton cometto and a Volvo N1233 to pull with. He got stories to tell about the cometto. Best trailer ever made if you ask him.
He often start his coments with when i was on the heavy
Know him for al my life top bloke!
He after that started doing smaller stuff with an 4axl lbs 111scania drawbar and a 4axl swedish made Hafo. Al built in 1979 and the Hafo still lives and is used by a local company to us.
I try to dig up a photo of that truck it looks really cool.
Danne
Does he read this forum Danne?
really old heavyhaulguy
, he must really love you.
Of course if he was driving in the 70s, he must be really, really old.
Only joking mate, and I do look forward to your picture of his Scania/Hafo.
On a more serious note, and for all of you really, are there many car pilots who are ex heavy haulers? I was once offered a job, when I came to live in France, as such by an English haulier in Derbyshire but I declined when I realised that I was expected to use my own car and the money didn’t cover it.
I think ex drivers with experience would be very useful, knowing as they would what clearance of various kinds is needed.
Hang on Spardo, seems to me Danne is in his 30s… so owt older than 40 is to be considered old… I’ll get me coat…
Would be great if you can post some stuff on here Danne, cheers!
At v.d. Vlist we had a pilot who used to drive the big stuff, he was the main man for us to sort out permits and such in France and he did the route surveys. But most of the pilots that escorted me over the years didn’t have a HGV license, and some of them were only there because it was easy money, driving all day and do ■■■■ all…
Spain was even worse, sometimes I really thought they’d rallied some people up who were in a carehome for the elderly, if you know what I mean… Happy days though
pv83:
Spain was even worse, sometimes I really thought they’d rallied some people up who were in a carehome for the elderly, if you know what I mean… Happy days though
There’s hope for me yet then, I’ll put me name down when I get there.
I think it was you I told about the Dutch driver I dined with near Lyon, moaning like hell because his French pilot wanted to leave at 2am (to get home for the weekend), whereas he, who was probably not going to be home for the next weekend, never mind this one, wanted to leave at 7.
I was on an easy run home so wasn’t even going to get up till 7, he was gone and, although he was parked next to me, I hadn’t heard him, so I’ve no idea who won.
Dirty Dan:
Oh the cometto! One of our pilotcardriver is an really old heavyhaulguy and he had in the 70is an 300ton cometto and a Volvo N1233 to pull with. He got stories to tell about the cometto. Best trailer ever made if you ask him.
He often start his coments with when i was on the heavy
Know him for al my life top bloke!
He after that started doing smaller stuff with an 4axl lbs 111scania drawbar and a 4axl swedish made Hafo. Al built in 1979 and the Hafo still lives and is used by a local company to us.
I try to dig up a photo of that truck it looks really cool.
Danne
Does he read this forum Danne?
really old heavyhaulguy
, he must really love you.
Of course if he was driving in the 70s, he must be really, really old.
Only joking mate, and I do look forward to your picture of his Scania/Hafo.
On a more serious note, and for all of you really, are there many car pilots who are ex heavy haulers? I was once offered a job, when I came to live in France, as such by an English haulier in Derbyshire but I declined when I realised that I was expected to use my own car and the money didn’t cover it.
I think ex drivers with experience would be very useful, knowing as they would what clearance of various kinds is needed.
Haha well i dont think he can start a computor,he still have his old phone. No android or iPhone there,old school guy. But are on him about how old he is al the time My Dad and he go way back so know him like for ever.
Well here there are alot of old heavyhaulmen that are pilotcardrivers,two of our three are that.
Have just found one pic of the old lbs111 he drove but somewere i got a couple more.
Dirty Dan:
Oh the cometto! One of our pilotcardriver is an really old heavyhaulguy and he had in the 70is an 300ton cometto and a Volvo N1233 to pull with. He got stories to tell about the cometto. Best trailer ever made if you ask him.
He often start his coments with when i was on the heavy
Know him for al my life top bloke!
He after that started doing smaller stuff with an 4axl lbs 111scania drawbar and a 4axl swedish made Hafo. Al built in 1979 and the Hafo still lives and is used by a local company to us.
I try to dig up a photo of that truck it looks really cool.
Danne
Does he read this forum Danne?
really old heavyhaulguy
, he must really love you.
Of course if he was driving in the 70s, he must be really, really old.
Only joking mate, and I do look forward to your picture of his Scania/Hafo.
On a more serious note, and for all of you really, are there many car pilots who are ex heavy haulers? I was once offered a job, when I came to live in France, as such by an English haulier in Derbyshire but I declined when I realised that I was expected to use my own car and the money didn’t cover it.
I think ex drivers with experience would be very useful, knowing as they would what clearance of various kinds is needed.
Hang on Spardo, seems to me Danne is in his 30s… so owt older than 40 is to be considered old… I’ll get me coat…
Would be great if you can post some stuff on here Danne, cheers!
At v.d. Vlist we had a pilot who used to drive the big stuff, he was the main man for us to sort out permits and such in France and he did the route surveys. But most of the pilots that escorted me over the years didn’t have a HGV license, and some of them were only there because it was easy money, driving all day and do [zb] all…
Spain was even worse, sometimes I really thought they’d rallied some people up who were in a carehome for the elderly, if you know what I mean… Happy days though
Well thank u kind sir,in his 30s ill stick with that but no im turning 42 this summer so im on my way to the darkside for sure
Dirty Dan:
Oh the cometto! One of our pilotcardriver is an really old heavyhaulguy and he had in the 70is an 300ton cometto and a Volvo N1233 to pull with. He got stories to tell about the cometto. Best trailer ever made if you ask him.
He often start his coments with when i was on the heavy
Know him for al my life top bloke!
He after that started doing smaller stuff with an 4axl lbs 111scania drawbar and a 4axl swedish made Hafo. Al built in 1979 and the Hafo still lives and is used by a local company to us.
I try to dig up a photo of that truck it looks really cool.
Danne
Does he read this forum Danne?
really old heavyhaulguy
, he must really love you. [emoji38]
Of course if he was driving in the 70s, he must be really, really old. [emoji38]
Only joking mate, and I do look forward to your picture of his Scania/Hafo.
On a more serious note, and for all of you really, are there many car pilots who are ex heavy haulers? I was once offered a job, when I came to live in France, as such by an English haulier in Derbyshire but I declined when I realised that I was expected to use my own car and the money didn’t cover it.
I think ex drivers with experience would be very useful, knowing as they would what clearance of various kinds is needed.
Hang on Spardo, seems to me Danne is in his 30s… so owt older than 40 is to be considered old… I’ll get me coat…
Would be great if you can post some stuff on here Danne, cheers!
At v.d. Vlist we had a pilot who used to drive the big stuff, he was the main man for us to sort out permits and such in France and he did the route surveys. But most of the pilots that escorted me over the years didn’t have a HGV license, and some of them were only there because it was easy money, driving all day and do [zb] all…
Spain was even worse, sometimes I really thought they’d rallied some people up who were in a carehome for the elderly, if you know what I mean… Happy days though
Well thank u kind sir,in his 30s ill stick with that but no im turning 42 this summer so im on my way to the darkside for sure [emoji38]
So Patrick, you are still the young whippersnapper on here [emoji16]
pv83:
Spain was even worse, sometimes I really thought they’d rallied some people up who were in a carehome for the elderly, if you know what I mean… Happy days though
There’s hope for me yet then, I’ll put me name down when I get there.
I think it was you I told about the Dutch driver I dined with near Lyon, moaning like hell because his French pilot wanted to leave at 2am (to get home for the weekend), whereas he, who was probably not going to be home for the next weekend, never mind this one, wanted to leave at 7.
I was on an easy run home so wasn’t even going to get up till 7, he was gone and, although he was parked next to me, I hadn’t heard him, so I’ve no idea who won.
Aye, you did, strange though, mostly it’s the other way round…