Dipper_Dave:
One time back in our yard it was a swelteringly hot day and I got me chum to hose me down with the jetwash.
Stood in the middle of the washing bay in just boots, pants and me hi viz best and let the cool water sooth my overheating firm body.
Very ■■■■■■■■■■ if I’m honest.
Some squealer grassed me up though and I’m now banned from using the jetwash. Apparently this was a breach of the companies Safe Systems of Work as well as a public decency offense. ■■■■■■■…
There are squealers everywhere D_D, I fail to see how holding your lance in your hand and hosing down your hot mate can be deemed by some as breaching any H&S policies. It is madness but that is now the world we live in.
This takes me back a few years to a news report, where someone in a garage, decided to play a prank on a colleague by sticking an airline up his backside, and pulling the trigger, causing most of his intestines to fall out, or something like that…caused serious injury…then the other case of a guy repairing a huge tyre, without putting it in a cage, so H& S can be a good thing, as the tyre guy had been trained to use a cage but preferred not to…common sense rules eh…but just for some.
commonrail:
What’s all this ■■■■■■■■ about “no rigger boots” aswell.
What could be a better choice of footwear for working in shin deep mud?
They don’t offer enough ankle support
Oh right
I thought muscles and tendons did that.
It’s because if you get your foot stuck they can cut your laces to get your foot out the boot ,I found this out at Tarmac as I putting on my new riggers
UKtramp:
So you have to be trained now to not squirt your mate in the eye with a jet wash, Jesus what is it all coming to.
You obviously don’t remember the guy who took Herons for a load of cash. Because they didn’t have a record of telling him not to put his foot in he taillift’s crush zone, they were liable.
H&S is needed because common sense is not terribly common. Plus, everything is always someone else’s fault.
That is what H&S is all about I am afraid, it is about liability and insurance and has nothing to do with the safety of people, they pick and choose whatever they see as a claim and not as a hazard. I fell off some ladders whilst fixing a reefer a few years back, snapped my leg in half, had pins and plates fitted and it was deemed my fault as I didn’t have 3 points of contact on the ladder, any engineer will tell you that is impossible to achieve whist trying to do a job. I can give thousands of instances of much more dangerous activities than merely using a jet wash. Do you need training for absolutely everything that could be a hazard?
At the college where I worked, there was a risk assessment pinned up behind the toaster! It would seem the obvious answer to your last question is, sadly, yes.
Harry Monk:
Talking to another agency driver at my place today. I said “What do we do about washing the truck?” and he said “There’s a jet wash in the corner of the yard but we’re not allowed to use it because we haven’t been trained on it”.
Did you only ask the other agency driver about the jet wash, or did you also ask somebody in the office?
As it seems to me it could be the agency driver not wanting you to wash the trucks as he might be expected to do the same, while at the moment he can use H&S as an excuse not to wash trucks.
I get the feeling H&S is used as an excuse for many things like not doing certain jobs or not needing to explain why there are certain rules and procedures. The same thing happened years ago, but the excuse would be demarcation or you’ll have the union out on strike if you do that.
Harry Monk:
Talking to another agency driver at my place today. I said “What do we do about washing the truck?” and he said “There’s a jet wash in the corner of the yard but we’re not allowed to use it because we haven’t been trained on it”.
Did you only ask the other agency driver about the jet wash, or did you also ask somebody in the office?
As it seems to me it could be the agency driver not wanting you to wash the trucks as he might be expected to do the same, while at the moment he can use H&S as an excuse not to wash trucks.
I get the feeling H&S is used as an excuse for many things like not doing certain jobs or not needing to explain why there are certain rules and procedures. The same thing happened years ago, but the excuse would be demarcation or you’ll have the union out on strike if you do that.
He told me he had asked in the office, and I’ve got no reason to disbelieve him. I’m waiting now to be told I can’t put diesel in the truck because I haven’t been trained how to do it.
My Bro was a manager in a clothing factory some years ago and in the machine room there was about a dozen middle aged women operating the sewing machines.
There was a handy space next to the wall for a dismantled scaffolding tower (one of those aluminium ones).
H & S muppet came for a visit and told my brother that he wanted the tower chained and padlocked and when asked why he said and I quote “it would prevent the employees in the room from using it”.
My brother does building renovations and he was once given a telling off by a H&S bod when he was painting a bathroom ceiling in a council flat because…
He wasn’t wearing safety boots.
He wasn’t wearing a high viz vest.
He was standing on the edge of the bath when he should have erected scaffolding and worked off of that.
commonrail:
What’s all this ■■■■■■■■ about “no rigger boots” aswell.
What could be a better choice of footwear for working in shin deep mud?
They don’t offer enough ankle support
Oh right
I thought muscles and tendons did that.
It’s because if you get your foot stuck they can cut your laces to get your foot out the boot ,I found this out at Tarmac as I putting on my new riggers
truckyboy:
This takes me back a few years to a news report, where someone in a garage, decided to play a prank on a colleague by sticking an airline up his backside, and pulling the trigger, causing most of his intestines to fall out, or something like that…caused serious injury…then the other case of a guy repairing a huge tyre, without putting it in a cage, so H& S can be a good thing, as the tyre guy had been trained to use a cage but preferred not to…common sense rules eh…but just for some.
My employer is very lax about H & S… If anyone wants to make an entry in the Accident record book they are told ‘one of the managers will do that later’…needless to say it never gets done.
There have been at least 7 hospital cases this year that I know of, broken legs and arms mostly.
The H and S executive have visited but only between 10 am and 3pm when the yard is empty… if they visited at 6 am or 5 pm we would be closed down there and then.
