He wasn't even going that fast

A truck overturned as it passed underneath a bridge in Birmingham, England, on May 31.

In the dashcam , a truck can be seen driving along a road. As it passes underneath a bridge, it begins to tip over and then falls on its left side with a loud crash.

A commenter on the filmer’s Facebook page said that the driver was “OK” and “just shaken.”

Not only was he slowish but it went over when he was in a straight line…whatever took him over had already started to go when he took the left curve… looks a very odd incident!

At 14 seconds there’s a hint the back of the trailer starts to twist then that takes the rest of it. Whatever was at the back moved badly as he went round the corner and kept going.

Hard to see what was in it from what came through the roof but it does appear to be a solid mass, so maybe too heavy for internals? Kindof speculation.

Doesnt need any real speed - if its heavy enough, it’ll just keep moving until restrained, in this case by the wall.

Pop or bottled water my guess.

Reef:
Pop or bottled water my guess.

Those Euroliners are as flimsy and as flexible as ■■■■, they bend like a banana…even in a strong wind.

Firm I worked for changed to them from old solid Tilt trailers, they were like chalk and cheese in terms of handling, you had to treat them with extra respect on corners until you got used to them.

Something liquid like Reef says is my bet.

I’m still feeling sea sick from my full load of IBCs yesterday :laughing:

toonsy:
Something liquid like Reef says is my bet.

I’m still feeling sea sick from my full load of IBCs yesterday :laughing:

Im.not keen on ibcs either. Once a month maybe take about a dozen full off glue. From Manchester to Kleenex in gravessend. And at times I drive like miss daisy .But don’t care.

I heard it was a full load of chipboard. Could be wrong though.

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I’d say it looked fairly fast! Probably packs of timber or board, stacked high and heavy… and since it fell over after the corner, not secured properly.

stuwozere1:
I heard it was a full load of chipboard. Could be wrong though.

It was a load of chipboard. The guy who caught it on video also took a load of photos at the scene. He said the wagon was doing no more than 10 mph. According to other drivers it’s a nightmare to carry as it’ll shift around regardless of how many straps you put on it.

harrawaffa:
According to other drivers it’s a nightmare to carry as it’ll shift around regardless of how many straps you put on it.

I can say with absolute certainty that that is utter ■■■■■■■■. I carry 27 tonne loads of the stuff most weeks if not most nights of most weeks and take it over the A66 going at the legal speed limit with the exception of Warcop bends. When they were doing the A1 upgrade from Leeming Bar to Scotch Corner we were taking diversions with loads of chipboard from Darlington to Thirsk via Northallerton down the A167 doing the speed limit and there were just a few bends we had to go slower than the speed limit round, two of them being a very tight S bend. And they arrived at the other end of the journey sat in the same place as when we picked them up.

The reason they move is because drivers either don’t put enough straps on, don’t put them in the proper place (just throw them all over the top of a stack) or don’t tighten them enough. The packs of chipboard I carry weigh either 3 tonnes or 4.5 tonnes each, far more than the one tonne 8’x4’ packs you pick up off the docks. The straps we use are rated for 5 tonnes and we hook them on the chock rail, not to the chassis as many do. On the 4.5 tonne packs, because of the length we carry them as three stacks two high. One strap over the bottom pack, three over the top pack. The 3 tonne packs, again because of the length we carry as three stacks three high. Two straps over the bottom two packs, three straps over the top. So a load has either 12 straps or 15 straps on. I doubt that driver had that many straps on that load or if he did it’d be maybe 12 straps over 4 stacks.

All our ratchets have tension indicators on like the picture below which fit in the loop of the ■■■■■■■■ the ratchet and as you tighten it it clamps it shut. As long as the jaws of the tension indicator are clamped together they’re tight enough and when they are you can play a tune on the straps. You have to drive like a ■■■■ to get that lot to move if you’ve tightened the ratchets properly.

Quite why all ratchets aren’t fitted with these I don’t know.

He was carrying chipboard - the sheets were banded together onto pallets. When I passed about 10 mins afterward there appeared to be pallets that had burst open.

EDTRUCK:
He was carrying chipboard - the sheets were banded together onto pallets. When I passed about 10 mins afterward there appeared to be pallets that had burst open.

Any bands holding the chipboard onto the pallet will be enough to hold it there while a forklift moves it about. No more than than that. When double stacked the bottom pallets will compress slightly, slackening the bands on the lower pallets.
It is smooth slippery stuff, and does need strapping properly, but as Conor says with the correct number of straps it shouldn`t move.
Hundreds of loads of the stuff travel everyday without incident, so something has gone wrong here.
Badly secured? If it moved, then it must be so, surely?

according to the driver following who filmed it on his dashcam the load was sheets of chipboard,[scrub this just seen the other posts]

Put a couple of pieces in the back of your car unstrapped and then watch how much the two pieces move against each other.

Any sort of timber needs strapping top and bottom rows.

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No doubt our resident expert Conor will rubbish this, what with me being a cowboy and all that :laughing: …, but the worst stuff is the slippery formica coated board.
I’ve even seen that stuff sticking in the curtains after a particularly (very :open_mouth: ) rough North Sea Ferry crossing one night.

robroy:
No doubt our resident expert Conor will rubbish this, what with me being a cowboy and all that :laughing: …, but the worst stuff is the slippery formica coated board.

That is truly bad and I carry that. We strap it the same as I described above but you have to take more care with it than normal chipboard. The only time I’ve had an accident on the road was with that stuff donkeys years ago when I very first started driving artics. Very low speed going round the roundabout to join the M62 at Howden and next thing I know I’m waking up in Goole hospital. It had apparently gone over on its side the same as the video. I’d picked up the trailer opposite the security hut and it was on camera me using ratchet straps (over the top of each stack the way we used to do it back then) and internal straps on as well as it was my first time out with it. Tacho showed me crawling round the roundabout.

The way we are told to strap it now is a result of trying various methods over the years. Still need to be careful at places like J12 on the M60 going onto M62 westbound.

Conor:

robroy:
No doubt our resident expert Conor will rubbish this, what with me being a cowboy and all that :laughing: …, but the worst stuff is the slippery formica coated board.

That is truly bad and I carry that. We strap it the same as I described above but you have to take more care with it than normal chipboard. The only time I’ve had an accident on the road was with that stuff donkeys years ago when I very first started driving artics. Very low speed going round the roundabout to join the M62 at Howden and next thing I know I’m waking up in Goole hospital. It had apparently gone over on its side the same as the video. I’d picked up the trailer opposite the security hut and it was on camera me using ratchet straps (over the top of each stack the way we used to do it back then) and internal straps on as well as it was my first time out with it. Tacho showed me crawling round the roundabout.

The way we are told to strap it now is a result of trying various methods over the years. Still need to be careful at places like J12 on the M60 going onto M62 westbound.

First time I carried it I was new, green as grass.
We only had ropes then, I double roped and double hitched every stack x 3. as instructed by an old hand.
Felt pleased with myself at the other end that it was still (fairly :smiley: ) straight on arrival.
Took ropes off while waiting to tip, then I was told to move forward,…and you guessed it…away it went. :blush: :smiley:
Learned a valuable lesson that day with that stuff, wait until into position to tip before removing ropes and sheets. :smiley:

Going by the way the roof of the trailer caved in at 0.15 it looks like a heavy stacked load secured using the waste of space roof mounted internal straps.

Also agree with the comments regarding always tie down stacked loads independently and seperately over each row.Don’t just expect the force applied to the top row of a stacked load to hold the lot.

At about 4 seconds in you can (just) see the load shift at n/s middle of the trailer

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