From the fire risk point of view, it’s worse when it’s covered. When we load it in containers, it becomes spontaneous combustible, and is subject to adr. But I’d still rather be covered in straw, than the cows ■■■■ that came at me when a livestock motor overtook me on the M1 once
OVLOV JAY:
From the fire risk point of view, it’s worse when it’s covered. When we load it in containers, it becomes spontaneous combustible, and is subject to adr. But I’d still rather be covered in straw, than the cows ■■■■ that came at me when a livestock motor overtook me on the M1 once
In an enclosed vehicle going on a ship, its a flammable solid under IMDG regs, UN1327. but it doesn’t come under ADR regs on the road.
Well when we load them out of Witney they’re full adr. The problem is its the container that makes them dangerous, not the ship
I used to haul loads of lime and slag on a tipper. Used to wet the load down before leaving the quarry or the steelworks. Only problem was if it dried out, then the dust would fly. Nowadays all loads have to be sheeted.
Loose straw could mean many things…
Just been loaded near to where you got covered as he may have not driven far to get rid of the ‘loose’.
Or, [Zb] quality ‘baled’ bales. ie not tight etc (farmer talk).
Dave the Renegade:
I used to haul loads of lime and slag on a tipper. Used to wet the load down before leaving the quarry or the steelworks. Only problem was if it dried out, then the dust would fly. Nowadays all loads have to be sheeted.
The big muck shifting jobs around here have sheeting rules, Dave. I think many firms do it to cut down on the “stone flew off and chipped my windscreen” claims.
My boss’ Dad wants me to sheet mainly “to stop the others knowing what we’re doing.” 
kr79:
Don’t know how true as I know nothing of country life but someone told me they don’t fully sheet hay and straw as it will retain more heat and could be a fire risk.
If I recall, its to do with moisture content when baled - which leads to mould growth. The growth of the mould or bacteria or whatever, creates heat. And obviously, heat + Fuel + oxygen = marshmallow toasties.
el_presidente:
kr79:
Don’t know how true as I know nothing of country life but someone told me they don’t fully sheet hay and straw as it will retain more heat and could be a fire risk.If I recall, its to do with moisture content when baled - which leads to mould growth. The growth of the mould or bacteria or whatever, creates heat. And obviously, heat + Fuel + oxygen = marshmallow toasties.
Also, I believe that particular mold is toxic to animals.
OVLOV JAY:
Well when we load them out of Witney they’re full adr. The problem is its the container that makes them dangerous, not the ship
Stickered up for the ship journey only, just like new car batteries in a container, the road journey to and from the docks are non ADR even though the container stil has the stickers on until the batteries are unloaded or sooner if you want, neither loads require an ADR licence to carry them.
Only required for the ship for marine safety, as in hazardous loads are stowed well away from the crew areas, engine and fuel, due to IMDG regs.
Captain Caveman 76:
el_presidente:
kr79:
Don’t know how true as I know nothing of country life but someone told me they don’t fully sheet hay and straw as it will retain more heat and could be a fire risk.If I recall, its to do with moisture content when baled - which leads to mould growth. The growth of the mould or bacteria or whatever, creates heat. And obviously, heat + Fuel + oxygen = marshmallow toasties.
Also, I believe that particular mold is toxic to animals.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmer%27s_lung
Nasty.
weeto:
OVLOV JAY:
Well when we load them out of Witney they’re full adr. The problem is its the container that makes them dangerous, not the shipStickered up for the ship journey only, just like new car batteries in a container, the road journey to and from the docks are non ADR even though the container stil has the stickers on until the batteries are unloaded or sooner if you want, neither loads require an ADR licence to carry them.
Only required for the ship for marine safety, as in hazardous loads are stowed well away from the crew areas, engine and fuel, due to IMDG regs.
I was watching that thar Resident Evil: Afterlife last night. None of the nasty biological naughties on the big cargo ship had any DG stickers or whatnot.
I was quite shocked.