Havin a laugh

Job posted on uk gov site made me laugh, class 1 tanker driver up to 60 hrs a week pulling tanker of loading and re loading doing France and Belgium all for a whopping amount of £6.10 ph after deductions, some one pinch me i thought the year was 2013.

lost:
Job posted on uk gov site made me laugh, class 1 tanker driver up to 60 hrs a week pulling tanker of loading and re loading doing France and Belgium all for a whopping amount of £6.10 ph after deductions, some one pinch me i thought the year was 2013.

Trouble is some prat will do it.

Yep no doubt some one will do mate how they get away with it is beyond me its less than the national min wage.

I know there are some poor buggers that need the work, but that’s taking the mick.

it demonstrates admirably the opinion some have of those of us in this industry of ours. I was reading about another executive in the NHS who had blood on his hands but did
a runner into another NHS position before he could be sacked from the post he held.Drivers can end up in jail for fiddling the tacho while those in the NHS seem to get away
with killing their patients,probably time we went to war within.

lost:
Yep no doubt some one will do mate how they get away with it is beyond me its less than the national min wage.

But £6.10 per hour “after deductions” (i.e. presumably Tax & NI) would put the basic hourly rate somewhat higher (and well above the NMW).

As Raymundo points out … 6.10 an hour ‘After deductions’ how can they say exactly what the deductions are going to be ? Surely it’s up to each individuals circumstances.
They should show the wage before deductions to get drivers interested.
Speaking as a tanker driver myself it would need to be far higher than double that.

They don’t need to know what the deductions will be - They can start from the desired Net Pay figure for the week - in this case 60hrs @ £6.10 = £366 and then back-calculate (using the employee’s tax code and NI rate) the gross pay that would produce this amount. Doing it this way would of course mean that two drivers working exactly the same hours but with different tax codes would have to be paid at different rates. It also means their (gross) hourly rate will change from one week to the next - although they would have the certainty of knowing that they would receive £6.10 in their hand for every hour worked.

But without seeing the ad in question (and then contacting the company in question) there is no way of knowing exactly what is being offered.

That’s a very poor return for a 60hr week.

I was offered a job this week, alternating between a week of UK & a week of Europe, take home on UK work was about £350 (all in) & £400 when you did a week of Europe, I turned it down. I earn more doing UK work.

It’s now being advertised on the job centre website, don’t suppose it’ll be vacant too long. Unfortunately, with the unemployment rate as it is, £400 take home is far better than what the dole offer, I’m sure if I was unemployed I’d have probably taken it.

lost:
Job posted on uk gov site made me laugh, class 1 tanker driver up to 60 hrs a week pulling tanker of loading and re loading doing France and Belgium all for a whopping amount of £6.10 ph after deductions, some one pinch me i thought the year was 2013.

No, it’s thirteen minutes past eight back in the 60’s. :frowning:

Armagedon:
it demonstrates admirably the opinion some have of those of us in this industry of ours. I was reading about another executive in the NHS who had blood on his hands but did
a runner into another NHS position before he could be sacked from the post he held.Drivers can end up in jail for fiddling the tacho while those in the NHS seem to get away
with killing their patients,probably time we went to war within.

Same thing with he police do something wrong and leave keeping pension

what area was this?
It may appear prety crap, But there are always extras in this job.
3x15=45 hours
3x13=39 hours
total 84 hours x £6.10 = £512.40
nights out at continental rate, £35 x 5 = £175, you may even get 6 or 7 nights depending on when you start and finish. eg. start sunday 12.00 and finish saturday 12.00, 24 off and go again.
Total in your pocket £687.40

mac12:

Armagedon:
it demonstrates admirably the opinion some have of those of us in this industry of ours. I was reading about another executive in the NHS who had blood on his hands but did
a runner into another NHS position before he could be sacked from the post he held.Drivers can end up in jail for fiddling the tacho while those in the NHS seem to get away
with killing their patients,probably time we went to war within.

Same thing with he police do something wrong and leave keeping pension

Why shouldn’t they keep their (paid for) pension rights? Do you pay into a pension scheme? Would it be OK to take that away if your employer dismissed you?

I think the point being made about the police was too often recently a senior police officer has resigned before an inquiry leading to possible prosecution or disciplinary action leading to loss of pension. This stops the investigation and leaves a possible offender off free and with a pension and lump sum he or she may have lost had the investigation gone ahead.

This has happened at least three times in my local force, and leaves a bad taste, as well as paying for a pension which should have been forfeit. One way would have been to allow the officer to retain their own contributions but withdraw the public funded part

Roymondo:

mac12:

Armagedon:
it demonstrates admirably the opinion some have of those of us in this industry of ours. I was reading about another executive in the NHS who had blood on his hands but did
a runner into another NHS position before he could be sacked from the post he held.Drivers can end up in jail for fiddling the tacho while those in the NHS seem to get away
with killing their patients,probably time we went to war within.

Same thing with he police do something wrong and leave keeping pension

Why shouldn’t they keep their (paid for) pension rights? Do you pay into a pension scheme? Would it be OK to take that away if your employer dismissed you?

I don’t think people dispute the fact their entitled to any monies they paid in, it’s the monies that the force paid in too which they keep that is wrong.

Why is it wrong? Does a single wrong-doing (or even a series of wrong-doings) automatically mean that every single benefit worked for (and, in most cases, paid for) over a decade or two must be forfeit? In effect what you are suggesting is that if someone is dismissed they should not only lose their job (fair enough) but also pay a fine of tens of thousands of pounds. ■■■■ - even murderers and rapists don’t get that!