Have your 2p's worth

After a discussion with a farmer on a drop today, thought I would dig the new car tax rates out, no wonder Darling wanted the 2p cut to get all the attention. The driver is well and trully screwed again by this bunch of one trick ponies. A report shows that little effect on the environment will be gained but the government will net 2 billion additional tax every year.

The fact that most cars built and exported from the UK are in the 225 and over rate i.e. the large car market is just another indicator of how well they understand the country they are supposed to be running.

Land rover defender diesel will cost £455 a year to tax hence why the farmer was jumping up and down.

Tax Band CO2 Emissions (g/km) 2007-08 rate 2008-09 rate
A 0-100 0 0
B 101-120 35 35
C 121-150 115 120
D 151-165 140 145
E 166-185 165 170
F 186+ (cars registered before 23/3/06) 205 210
G 226+ (cars registered after 23/3/06) 300 400

The new tax system 2009-10 and 2010-11

CO2 Emissions (g/km) 2009-10 rate 2010-11 first year 2010-11 standard rate
A 0-100 0 0 0
B 101-110 20 0 20
C 111-120 30 0 35
D 121-130 90 0 95
E 131-140 110 115 115
F 141-150 120 125 125
G 151-160 150 155 155
H 161-170 175 250 180
I 171-180 205 300 210
J 181-200 260 425 270
K 201-225 300 550 310
L 226-255 415 750 430
M 225+ 440 950 455

Well just thought I would cheer you all up, I am off to fit the wife and 3 kids into the electric 2 seater :open_mouth: :wink:

Apologies tables never seem to come out right

Think the moral of the storry is no one buy a new car and watch the makers scream at him when they threaten to pay off all the staff !!!

then watch him squirm

Landrover defender built and put on the road before march 2001 will still only cost about £200 pa to tax .
It’s not even a green tax , it’s milking the arse out of it tax .

If,like me,you have a car registered in 1999, (Peugeot 406 HDi) how do you know what tax band you’ll be in?

Ken.

How do you find out the CO2 rating for your vehicle?
I’ve a Renault Trafic van and it’s just sailed through it’s MOT where it had an ‘Opacity Emission Test’ with a reading of 0.23 M -1, whatever that means.

Quinny:
If,like me,you have a car registered in 1999, (Peugeot 406 HDi) how do you know what tax band you’ll be in?

Ken.

Still on the old system , the new tax bandings are for vehicles on built and put on the road after 2001 .

Meant to say that mine’s on a 53 plate.

No idea what band i am but its a gas guzzler and it cost me £101.75 for 6 months today.

:bulb: why not scupper the chancellor completely - everyone buy a toyota prius :wink: :laughing: :laughing:

penfold:
How do you find out the CO2 rating for your vehicle?
I’ve a Renault Trafic van and it’s just sailed through it’s MOT where it had an ‘Opacity Emission Test’ with a reading of 0.23 M -1, whatever that means.

Have a look on your registration document,the emission level should be on there.

The opacity test doesn’t actually analize the exhaust gases. The gases pass through a gas chamber and a thin beam of light of a known brightness is shone through it. A “receiver” measures the amount of light reaching it and this gives an indication of the density of black(or blue) smoke being emitted. Black smoke is actually particles of unburnt or partially burnt fuel. Blue smoke is burnt or partially burnt engine oil. IIRC,the limit for a non-turbo engine is 2.5m-1 and 3.0 for a turbo,so your van is pretty good.

Hope you followed all that :laughing:

How the hell am I going to get all my night out kit strapped onto my pushbike? :laughing:

I suspect there will be a few iffy emissions coming from that!

even easier register your car to the chancellor and refuse to pay tax hopefully if everyone does it the a##e might get the message, and the other thing is can we claim the car tax as expenses the jumped up mp’s can for their second homes?

havent heard of anything yet but any difference on LGVs?

penfold:
How do you find out the CO2 rating for your vehicle?

vcacarfueldata.org.uk/

My tax for 12 months goes up to £185 which is more than some people get paid in a week, Who voted these idiots in as i know i didnt

dont be to hard on them ,i think some of them are related to that bloke canute

i think the government are good realy.it is adificult job lying thtough your teeth with a straight face, sad thing is they are getting away with it

Just another way of getting more tax out of people who can afford, [or not afford] it.

These clowns governing the country forget to tell the average working person [or family] that they claim all their travelling expenses back at 50p a mile when we all have to pay out of our net wages

Goverment are thinking, if you can afford a £35,000 BMW X-5, then you’ll afford to pay us more duty.

So we all go out and buy a small green car, what happens is they bring in another tax for small cars

Nothing to do with greenhouse gas, are they governments in other countries like India and China etc taxing them to the hilt?

What the public need to do is call their bluff, let everyone leave their vehicles at home for 1 month and use public transport, watch it fail as it struggles to cope with the extra useage.

It’s nothing to do with saving the environment, there’s no British car manufacturers left, so restricting the market to little noddy cars with a 50cc engine isn’t going to make the rest of the worlds manufacturers clean up their bigger cars so we can have them, they’ve got the rest of the world as a market who don’t care. As said, it’s just taxing because it can, in the name of being green.

I’ll continue to drive around in my 1994 5.7litre car paying £190 a year tax, while someone in a 1.8 petrol has to pay £500 because it was registered after 2001. Not saying mine is hugely unecomonical or polluting, because it’s actually not really, just isn’t consistent at all. And Carbon dioxide is just one gas released from exhausts, nitrous oxides and the like are harmful too, they just don’t get the greenies cheering like the word Carbon.

Here is a fact for you the entire contribution of human beings in the world to carbon dioxide emissions is 1.8% of the total per year.

The Pacific ocean pumps out more co2 in ONE day than the UK puts out in a century.