WE’RE TALKING STOBRATS ON A TOSSCO SITE boys! 
rambo19:
Coffeeholic:
switchlogic:
Sit in the canteen then, no one is forcing you to empty bins. Personally if emptying bins meant I got home a couple of hours earlier I’d be out there doing just that.This^^
And these are the drivers that will go 1st when the work drys up…
Really, you mean they’ll keep the moaners? Hate to break it to you but the work has dried up many times in my career and Ive often been one of the few people not to go. Surprising as it may seem to you there are some drivers with a can do attitude and often these are the drivers companies keep. After all its a no brainer, keep drivers who’s rather sit in a canteen or keep drivers who muck in and help put no matter what that entails.
- I think your talking utter rubbish
- Where you bin all the day
sorry.
They’re paying you and they’ve found work for you to do?! The cheek of it.
Emptying a bin is beneath some people, really?■■■■ me I’d shovel ■■■■ if I got of early and as seen as hourly paid if I’m parked up at 3 during the winter months I’d empty every ■■■■■ bin in our yard scrub the loos and stick a brush up my arse and sweep as I go if it meant dragging a few extra hours pay out. We were quite the other week I was told go home if I wanted or go up a bit of land my boss has and prune the hedges and brambles back, off I trundle with a hedge trimmer shears and a saw. Getting scratched to death and breaking a sweat ain’t beneath me that’s why during the winter months I don’t get sent home at lunch when there’s no work to do because he knows ill do what ever ■■■■■■ jobs need doing without whinging about it.
If you get back in 7 hours, ask them to hurry up and load you so you can get down the road and park up for the night. Hey presto, Night out money. 
truckman020:
I can understand to a certain point,if you are wearing a company uniform you represent the company so you try to keep it clean,if you are asked to empty bins to make the time to 10 hrs all manner of cxxp could come from said bins and could filth up your uniform,if you are only 2 days into the week you then have to wear that uniform until you can wash it,not good for customer relationships
Why not simply change into a clean uniform and wash them both (or all three/four/five) at the end of the week?
dozy:
They pay us 10 hrs ,50 hrs a week ,in the beginning if you got back early they’d sign you up for your 10 hrs and home you went ,then it changed too you being made too sit in the canteen until you’d done your 10 hrs too get paid ( but fair bit they just signed you up and let you go home.
Latest pear shaped scheme is if your a good boyand go and empty all the bins in the yard you can get signed for 10 hrs and go home a bit early,FFS if I wanted too be a waste disposal operative I get a bloody job working for the council,the best bit is some of the idiots are doing it
Thats a cleaner out of a job,leave the yard the drivers will do it when they are not on a run,very wrong,next time they are struggling for drivers will a cleaner take a run out 
Thats a cleaner out of a job,leave the yard the drivers will do it when they are not on a run,very wrong,next time they are struggling for drivers will a cleaner take a run out.
/quote]Doubt it. The cleaners union would get together and tell them they aren’t driving a truck, it’s beneath them
This thread comes across as one of the most clique i have seen on Trucknet.I know Dozy comes out with a lot of outlandish comments but i reckon if a more popular person had being the OP, then the replies would have being more positive in agreement.
nowt wrong with emptying bins, i used to be a bin man years ago loved that job
or you could just get signed up for the hours you do and go home early I personaly would not faff about in the yard just to make me time up
I can see where he’s coming from, half you preach on about being professionals but I’m with switch, I’d clean the Karzy if it meant I cod go home early!!!
chester1:
or you could just get signed up for the hours you do and go home early I personaly would not faff about in the yard just to make me time up
^ This.If the hourly rate isn’t good enough to make a living out of the work that is available then either the hourly rate isn’t good enough,or it’s a redundancy situation.As for those who agree with switchlogic etc the logical conclusion of that would be why bother with driving trucks if they are happy spending their working hours doing something else.Or,assuming that they aren’t actually happy doing other zb but they don’t want to upset the guvnor be careful what they wish for because they might just get it.
The example in the OP seems to be a case of a rate that’s based on 10 hours doing the ‘job’ as agreed and finish.That hourly rate would obviously have been agreed on different terms ‘if’ the job was no longer one based on ‘job and finish’.
While the issue of accepting any zb that’s available assuming there’s not enough work can be a minefield in the case of a redundancy situation.Where contrary to switchlogic’s idea I’d prefer to either be paid for the hours available doing the job I’m there to do.Or take the redundancy money and walk away if those hours aren’t enough to make a living on, in most,if not all,cases.
Which just leaves the question of wether a change in terms and conditions from that of job and finish to working full hours for the same hourly rate and/or wether hourly rate would not be enough to make a living on at the hours that are available,is/should be a redundancy situation for those who choose not to accept the change.The fact is the weakness of the unions these days has more or less resulted in anarchy while drivers pay rates are obviously low enough to make it worth using drivers as cleaners instead of employing cleaners.Whatever the answer examples like this show the advantages of being paid based on mileage not on hours in the case of ‘drivers’ and why many ‘drivers’ would ( rightly ) prefer to take on all the risks of being an owner driver rather than being an ‘employed’ one.
chester1:
or you could just get signed up for the hours you do and go home early I personaly would not faff about in the yard just to make me time up
Get real mate.
People plan their personal finances around what they expect to be taking home from work. If the deal in dozy’s job is 50 hours week, then he is hardly going to go home early and leave himself out of pocket. His gaffer would love that wouldn’t he?
If you can afford to bugger off early then that’s good for you.
Empty bins ■■ FFS I’d finger the gaffers fugly daughter to go home early 
You’ve got to be brain dead to choose sitting in the canteen waiting to die for a couple of hours over emptying a bin and going home.
Typical Stobart driver; not much between his ears.
Dozy, can you count to potato?
Its all about swings and roundabouts, so you don’t mind you employer signing you off for the hrs that you can get off early, but I’m sure you’d be a little PO’d if he didn’t pay you them hrs wouldn’t you…
I mean the employer is not duty bound to pay you to let you go early…maybe you should pull out your contract of employment and read it again…
If ya boss is paying you till then end of your shift, then your tacho should reflect this… not sitting at home
Being asked to empty a a couple of bins or a broom over a floor isn’t what I call asking a lot is it ? just like being asked to clean ya truck when you’ve used it or are you one of them " Im a driver not my job " sort of blokes…
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If you got an issue with what is being asked and you can’t lower your standards in the work place, take it up with management… but you’ll probably ■■■■ it up for everyone else there… the bosses will simply pay for the hrs worked only…no early finishes plus all the favours will end…
Don’t know if I’m remembering correctly but didn’t the op post the flying double decker post few months back, advertising how he’d done a job in 6 hours instead of 10. If the jobs are being cut up it won’t take long for management to realise their paying money for people sitting at home. Advanced apologies if I got wrong thread
Rob
Just a small reminder…
‘Dozy’ is not a misnomer nor is it sarcasm 
It is factually based and extremely accurate
Take care out there kids