Has the hgv speed limit increase 50mph on single carriageway and 56 mph on dual carriageway been confirmed and approved or when dies it start thanx
gothika:
Has the hgv speed limit increase 50mph on single carriageway and 56 mph on dual carriageway been confirmed and approved or when dies it start thanx
three days ago in ENGLAND AND wales only! 
no Jockenese 
New limits as of 6 April.
Thanx lads so is that definite from 6th April 2015 I looked on government site it say single 50 dual 60
If you looked on the government site and saw that, you can see it’s been raised then…
gothika:
Thanx lads so is that definite from 6th April 2015 I looked on government site it say single 50 dual 60
Which is the correct information and the correct national speed limits for trucks on those roads.
Duals are now the same limit as motorways for trucks. The fact most trucks are limited to less than that maximum doesn’t make any difference, the legal limit is still 60mph.
Also, don’t follow the speed limit on your sat-nav if it’s not been updated - Garmin won’t be updating their speed limit data until the next map update which isn’t for several months (they told me this in an email). I think that’s really poor as the unit I’ve got was only released in February and they had several months’ notice.
You follow the speed limits shown by your sat nav? Goodluck with that.
It’s worth bearing in mind that this is not applicable in Scotland. Lord knows why anyone would want to come here though… 
gothika:
Thanx lads so is that definite from 6th April 2015 I looked on government site it say single 50 dual 60
really 
well blow me
Question I got asked today for clarification that got me thinking…
Does this only affect NSL signed sections or if a single is posted at 50 (rather than the NSL sign) we can do 50, if a duel is posted 60 we can do 60 ?
Effectively, if a road is over 30mph is it classed as a NSL but with various local council restrictions (40/50/60) applied on various sections instead of a NSL sign ?
Asked because the link gov.uk/speed-limits states the limits for National Speed Limits and doesn’t mention normal 40/50/60 areas.
It’s not rocket science!
New speed limits applies to NSL on single and dual carriageways.
UNLESS there are local restrictions which will take precedence.
In answer to your example, if SC says 40mph then that’s the speed limit. Same if it says 50mph you can do upto that speed if safe to do so.
Edit : All roads are actually classed as 30mph unless signage says otherwise not the other way round as you put. If no signage to say higher speed applies then 30 is the default. Got that from Highways Agency when I used to work on Street furniture side and we were told to design to that unless order granted for a higher limit on any particular road
dcgpx:
It’s not rocket science!New speed limits applies to NSL on single and dual carriageways.
UNLESS there are local restrictions which will take precedence.
In answer to your example, if SC says 40mph then that’s the speed limit. Same if it says 50mph you can do upto that speed if safe to do so.
That is what I thought until the question was asked which put the tiniest amount of doubt in my head. If you re-read it I was questioning if all roads are classed as a NSL if they are over 30mph but with local restrictions.
Until this came up I never gave a seconds thought to different limits. They were always straight limits, 30 is 30, 40 is 40, 50 is 50, 60 is 60 and when the black and white NSL sign appears it’s a National Speed Limit that differs on your different vehicle ie. car and trailer, artic, class 2 etc.
Obviously if you drove anything bigger than 7.5t 50 was 40 etc but I hope you get my drift, to me National Speed Limit only popped up when the sign did. Now it is being shown that anything above 30 is NSL with whatever local restrictions are applied.
Hope this makes sense 
It does but NSL was created for where roads don’t have local restrictions as when they do they have to have mandatory repeaters ( exception being 30’s as they are the default so no repeaters required )
In answer to your question no, roads are not classed as NSL if over 30.
As I said all roads are default 30 unless higher speed limit signage is shown to show the demarcation on limits.
dcgpx:
In answer to your question no, roads are not classed as NSL if over 30.
In that case then the page gov.uk/speed-limits is misleading as it states with a bold heading that the information is for National Speed Limits, there is no mention of other roads like single carriageways with local limits on like 50 and 60.
Just my opinion though, thanks for your answers anyway
IndigoJo:
Also, don’t follow the speed limit on your sat-nav if it’s not been updated - Garmin won’t be updating their speed limit data until the next map update which isn’t for several months (they told me this in an email). I think that’s really poor as the unit I’ve got was only released in February and they had several months’ notice.
My trucktables satnav will be going nuts from now on, might just turn off the speed alerts to shut it up!